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Edited: 4/15/19 2:44 AM
4/19/09
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gregbrady -
yusul -

let in shitty people, create a shitty environment.  how is this not obvious?

only a small percentage of any coutry's citizens have passports so this is an easy scam to pull on the electorate.

 

 

76% of Briton's have a passport you complete and utter gobshite.

4/15/19 2:46 AM
4/19/09
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Sandy Pantz - “In the last 10 years, since the Somalis and the Congolese came to London, they taught us a whole new level of violence,” he said.





I'm sure they brought amazing food and super hot women, which makes any small negatives like above totally worth it.

No their food and women are shit there are no redeeming features of the Somali migration to the UK 

However the violence is not to do with them it's scapegoating.

London's always had heavy violent gangs. It's part and parcel. 

Ronnie and Reggie Kray?

 

4/15/19 2:48 AM
4/19/09
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D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. -
Squatdog - Oh wait...

london has 6 million less people

Facts. 

 

Learn them .

 

Despite the other post stating that London has 8. Something million, that's permanent residents .London is 11 Millon with semi permanent residents and 13 with tourists.

 

(A survey of escort sites found nearly 1.3 million prostitutes in London.) That's an awful lot of hoes. 

4/15/19 2:56 AM
11/1/06
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Squatdog - Oh wait...

Please stop bringing facts to the story. You will ruin the narrative that London is a hell-hole and if only the population had guns then everything would be okay - just like the U.S 

4/15/19 2:59 AM
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D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. -

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/03/28/gun-free-london-teen-shot-dead-raid-uncovers-multiple-ak-47s-grenades/?fbclid=IwAR248MXqIjEXyDSrKh-3_4-BTW8S79Q2_OURRm757AiZ5SQIfOrUh18R_ls

Khan’s London: Gang Warfare Kills More than Terror, Despite Tightest Gun Controls Firearms Are ‘Easy’ to Buy

A teenage boy has been shot dead in London, just minutes after a man in his thirties was stabbed in the head elsewhere in the increasingly crime-stricken British capital.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/how-londons-knife-culture-is-being-fueled-by-jargon-social-media-and-music-a3579396.html

How London's knife culture is being fueled by jargon, social media and music

In the wake of the recent surge in knife crime — 31 people, including 10 teenagers, stabbed to death in London so far this year, a rise of 30 per cent on the same period last year — the Standard sought to delve deeper into how knife culture takes hold. Where do these words come from? How is this lexicon tied in to the rising temperature on the street?

“The words originate from Jamaican patois and then get mixed up with new swag from the youngers when they in prison,” said Wayne. “Jail is where the new words come from. Jail is like school for gang members. Every area goes there — you get eastmen [east Londoners], northmen, southmen all mixed in. It’s a hothouse. And when you come out, you spread the new lingo to your area.”

He added: “If you wanna understand blade culture, you got to get into the head of how people on road think. The public just see ‘gang member’, but there are different levels. The lowest is roadman. He’s the guy with the handbag, always on road, dealing drugs. 

“The next level is what we call a hitter. He’s a thug who will hit you up and not care. The highest level is mad man. He’s done heavy stuff. You don’t want to test him. A mad man will take on a whole gang on his own. The aim is to get to the next level. To get there, you got to be more violent.”

What advantage does the next level bring? “Power, status, girls, especially girls.” Did Wayne, who is black British, think you have to be more aggressive today than in the past to earn your stripes? “In the last 10 years, since the Somalis and the Congolese came to London, they taught us a whole new level of violence,” he said.

 

It's because they've castrated their police. We've had people immigrate from violent societies, and cops shut that shit down, although flare ups do occur from time to time.

Edited: 4/15/19 3:32 AM
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How much of the immigration is actually being recorded properly in the census? And who took out the leader of Libya causing all of this mass migration?
4/15/19 3:34 AM
1/1/01
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Squatdog - NEW YORK: 8,622,298

LONDON: 8,825,001

LOL!

New York metro:  20 million

London metro: 14 million

4/15/19 3:45 AM
12/6/16
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LoveToChoke -
Squatdog - Oh wait...

Please stop bringing facts to the story. You will ruin the narrative that London is a hell-hole and if only the population had guns then everything would be okay - just like the U.S 

LMAO

figures suggest you are almost six times more likely to be burgled in the British capital than in the US city, and one and a half times more likely to fall victim to a robbery.

London has almost three times the number of reported rapes.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/20/london-now-dangerous-new-york-crime-stats-suggest/

4/15/19 3:56 AM
1/1/01
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ravenman2000 - 
Squatdog - NEW YORK: 8,622,298

LONDON: 8,825,001

LOL!

New York metro:  20 million

London metro: 14 million


"The most recent official estimated figure for New York City's population is 8,622,298 as of July 1, 2017. The official estimated figure for greater London at the same point in time was 8,825,001. These figures will be used for calculation of relative rates as they are from the exact same point in time and based on official figures."
4/15/19 4:16 AM
1/1/01
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Squatdog -
ravenman2000 - 
Squatdog - NEW YORK: 8,622,298

LONDON: 8,825,001

LOL!

New York metro:  20 million

London metro: 14 million


"The most recent official estimated figure for New York City's population is 8,622,298 as of July 1, 2017. The official estimated figure for greater London at the same point in time was 8,825,001. These figures will be used for calculation of relative rates as they are from the exact same point in time and based on official figures."

Greater London is not the same thing as London Metro, which does indeed have 14 million people.  Similarly with New York Metro and its 20 million.  Not that it's too much to the point, as the crime stats  may or may not reflect City of London and City of New York and not the metro areas, but it's still not wrong to say New York has six million more people than London.

4/15/19 4:43 AM
8/21/06
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gregbrady - 

lol @ "blade culture"

 

why does the UK take away women's abilty to defend themselves from a man in his 20's wielding a knife by forbidding her from carrying a gun?

 

what a backwards culture


i'm from the UK

legal guns would mean more guns around;

our criminals generally do not have guns

despite the hysterical tone of the article in the OP, guns are not easy to obtain in the UK. It is not uncommon for recovered firearms to turn out to be things like WW2 Lugers and converted blank-firers or re-bored decommissioned display pieces.

Alongside the rarity of the hardware, the real problem is ammunition. It is extremely difficult to get hold of ammunition, to the point that you have situations where guys are using converted blank-firers and slugs they have molded/cast themselves. That's how much of a joke it can be.

There are *some* proper pieces of hardware out there, usually coming via the Albanians and the Turks, there was a surge in weaponry coming in after the Yugoslavia wars some years back, but on the whole most of the guns and ammo in the UK are total shit and not common at all.

If you legalized firearms here, every criminal would be armed by the end of the week. It would be a fucking shitshow, total disaster. As it stands, most people in the UK now will live their entire lives without ever seeing a firearm of any kind in real life ever.

Here's a simple test: Which country has more criminals with firearms and more gun deaths - the US or the UK?

there's your answer
4/15/19 4:48 AM
8/21/06
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gregbrady - 
yusul -

let in shitty people, create a shitty environment.  how is this not obvious?

only a small percentage of any coutry's citizens have passports so this is an easy scam to pull on the electorate.

 

 


Lol not in europe / the UK. Most people in Europe have passports.

You really are spectacularly uninformed about the things you are trying to talk about. You are like a living example of the stereotype that Europeans have about dumb Americans - guns, 'Murica, no interest in or knowledge of the world outside, poor quality of information

an estimated 76% of UK residents have passports. Europeans on the whole travel extensively, much more so than the average American (< and that's not a diss on Americans; the USA is so big that its not really necessary to travel outside it for any kind of vacation you want to take, except if you want to experience different cultures, which a lot simply don't)
4/15/19 5:20 AM
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ravenman2000 -
Squatdog - NEW YORK: 8,622,298

LONDON: 8,825,001

LOL!

New York metro:  20 million

London metro: 14 million

So even with your cherry picked numbers, London still has fewer per capita murderers than NYC? 

 

Our policies aren't perfect, but we're still far safer than the US

4/15/19 6:23 AM
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Firearms are legal here in the U.K., just heavily controlled. I’d rather gang warfare be fought with knives rather than guns, the chances of an innocent being caught up is lower that way.

4/15/19 6:50 AM
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VTCO -

I agree that diversity is a strength.

 

But that is contingent on being selective about how you diversify.

 

Look at an investment portfolio, for example.

Society and culture has zero to do with investing. Ridiculous analogy.

4/15/19 6:56 AM
10/19/14
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ryans -
ravenman2000 -
Squatdog - NEW YORK: 8,622,298

LONDON: 8,825,001

LOL!

New York metro:  20 million

London metro: 14 million

So even with your cherry picked numbers, London still has fewer per capita murderers than NYC? 

 

Our policies aren't perfect, but we're still far safer than the US

Math is hard for you, huh?

4/15/19 7:09 AM
1/1/01
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New York Homicides per capita, 2018: 3.4

London Homicides per capita, 2018: 1.52

LOL!
4/15/19 9:20 AM
8/12/09
Posts: 11530
Squatdog - New York Homicides per capita, 2018: 3.4

London Homicides per capita, 2018: 1.52

LOL!

Are you saying you're in favor of all the new immigrant  citizens in london, simply because you may still be statistically less dangerous than NYC?  

 

4/15/19 9:27 AM
4/19/09
Posts: 31639
ravenman2000 -
Squatdog -
ravenman2000 - 
Squatdog - NEW YORK: 8,622,298

LONDON: 8,825,001

LOL!

New York metro:  20 million

London metro: 14 million


"The most recent official estimated figure for New York City's population is 8,622,298 as of July 1, 2017. The official estimated figure for greater London at the same point in time was 8,825,001. These figures will be used for calculation of relative rates as they are from the exact same point in time and based on official figures."

Greater London is not the same thing as London Metro, which does indeed have 14 million people.  Similarly with New York Metro and its 20 million.  Not that it's too much to the point, as the crime stats  may or may not reflect City of London and City of New York and not the metro areas, but it's still not wrong to say New York has six million more people than London.

greater london is the larger area.

4/15/19 9:51 AM
11/12/06
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Some of the most vocal critics of the current wave of UK migration are 2nd generationers like Ghengiseanie.

Fucking hypocrite
4/15/19 10:44 AM
4/24/07
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The problem is obvious. Not enough diversity! They need more. The reason this is happening is because there are too many white people.
4/15/19 11:05 AM
1/9/02
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Smirk -

Maybe if white people ever get a country of their own again, they will remember what happens when you open your borders and show compassion to the 3rd world.  

Iceland has been watching and learning

4/15/19 11:10 AM
1/9/02
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john joe -
gregbrady - 
yusul -

let in shitty people, create a shitty environment.  how is this not obvious?

only a small percentage of any coutry's citizens have passports so this is an easy scam to pull on the electorate.

 

 


Lol not in europe / the UK. Most people in Europe have passports.

You really are spectacularly uninformed about the things you are trying to talk about. You are like a living example of the stereotype that Europeans have about dumb Americans - guns, 'Murica, no interest in or knowledge of the world outside, poor quality of information

an estimated 76% of UK residents have passports. Europeans on the whole travel extensively, much more so than the average American (< and that's not a diss on Americans; the USA is so big that its not really necessary to travel outside it for any kind of vacation you want to take, except if you want to experience different cultures, which a lot simply don't)

I guess I was wrong about passport ownership in the UK

My point was that very few ppl actually visit the country's these ppl are immigrating from so they're susceptible to porpaganda about how we're all the same from globalsit politicans

 

lol @ ghenghis calling Somalians shit, I feel the same way about most Muslims

 

Edited: 4/15/19 11:13 AM
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john joe -
gregbrady - 

lol @ "blade culture"

 

why does the UK take away women's abilty to defend themselves from a man in his 20's wielding a knife by forbidding her from carrying a gun?

 

what a backwards culture


i'm from the UK

legal guns would mean more guns around;

our criminals generally do not have guns

despite the hysterical tone of the article in the OP, guns are not easy to obtain in the UK. It is not uncommon for recovered firearms to turn out to be things like WW2 Lugers and converted blank-firers or re-bored decommissioned display pieces.

Alongside the rarity of the hardware, the real problem is ammunition. It is extremely difficult to get hold of ammunition, to the point that you have situations where guys are using converted blank-firers and slugs they have molded/cast themselves. That's how much of a joke it can be.

There are *some* proper pieces of hardware out there, usually coming via the Albanians and the Turks, there was a surge in weaponry coming in after the Yugoslavia wars some years back, but on the whole most of the guns and ammo in the UK are total shit and not common at all.

If you legalized firearms here, every criminal would be armed by the end of the week. It would be a fucking shitshow, total disaster. As it stands, most people in the UK now will live their entire lives without ever seeing a firearm of any kind in real life ever.

Here's a simple test: Which country has more criminals with firearms and more gun deaths - the US or the UK?

there's your answer

I dont think our homicide rate is because of gun ownership

you have to combat ppl's motivation to murder, not the means,

thats a fair point about the scarcity of guns in the UK, we do not have that situation in the US so your rules wouldn't work here

you've decided to get rid of a female's right to self-defense in exchange for the greater good of society

4/15/19 11:26 AM
6/13/03
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The brits love of big government is a good reminder as to why the US exists in the first place.