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4/21/19 2:23 AM
1/9/02
Posts: 48028
Ghengiseanie -
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. -
Ghengiseanie -

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/UK-Orthodox-Jewish-mayoral-candidate-apologizes-for-burning-New-Testament-488129

 

An Orthodox Jewish candidate for mayor of Manchester apologized after burning what he called a “missionary bible” and posting images of it on social media.

Shneur Odze, who is a candidate for the right-wing populist UK Independence Party, or UKIP, on the eve of Passover found the Hebrew-language New Testament produced by a proselytizing Christian group in his synagogue.

 

Orthodox Judaism Treats Women Like Filthy Little Things

If a man and a woman are drowning in a river, first they'll save the man, 'who is obligated to perform more commandments,' whereas a woman's 'wisdom is only in the spindle.' In fact, 'words of Torah should be burned rather than being given to women.'

https://www.haaretz.com/1.5223302

 

https://www.richarddawkins.net/2016/11/i-had-to-take-my-dirty-panties-to-a-rabbi-and-so-has-every-orthodox-jewish-woman/

 

The third pillar of Orthodox Judaism, family purity or niddah, is one very few people outside of that insular world are aware of.  However, if broken, the laws accompanying it carry a far greater penalty in the next world than those related to the Sabbath or keeping Kosher. The laws of family purity apply to all spectrums of orthodoxy, including the modern ones that allow women to wear trousers and uncover their hair, like the sect Ivanka Trump belongs to, for example. Even the slightest deviation from these laws would compromise a couple’s standing as practicing Orthodox Jews in the eyes of a rabbinical court.

What are these laws, you ask?

The laws of family purity revolve around the color of a woman’s vaginal discharge.

You see, beginning on the days when she anticipates her period, a husband and wife are forbidden from having any sexual relations until seven days following the end of her period. Considering orthodox law states that a period’s duration is a minimum of five days, this typically spans about two weeks or longer, depending on whether her post-menstrual discharge cooperates. In short, this means that for about half of every month, all aspects of an orthodox woman’s life, relationship, sexuality, and emotional health, are dictated by her vaginal discharge.

 

Religion of Equality!

bwwaahhahahah -  a fucking muslim dare write Religion of Equality!

so saving the man first... no problem. why the fuck do women get a pass and saved 1st?

a religion of goat fuckers have a issue with people who give a fuck about fucking a chick with nasty discharge. go figure

 

Those savage activities are in a savage country. Nobody is fucking goats in London which is your thread topic. I'm able to recognise the flaws of archaic beliefs on gays and women in some of my religions followers. But you clearly condone the orthodox ways outlined in those horror stories above. Cultural diversity via whataboutism. Task task. Weak.

there's female genital mutilation going on in London and the Paki population is hugely inbred in the UK

 

they dont magically turn civilized as soon as they cross the border

 

western civilization was built on a judeo-christian foundation

 

Muslims are barbarians trying to destroy it.

Edited: 4/21/19 2:32 AM
1/9/02
Posts: 48029
Tomato Can - Moronic article aimed at uninformed readers. If London were a city in the US it would have one of the lowest murder rates in the country. It's about as dangerous as Boise, Idaho.

it would have a much higher violent crime rate than Boise

violent crime rate in London is 22.8, in Boisie its 2.78

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/id/boise/crime

https://www.statista.com/statistics/380963/london-crime-rate-by-offence-group/

 

they're not even in the same ballpark. Boise is much much safer than London

you're ten times more likely to be a victim of a violent crime in London as you are in Boise

 

the UK has 3 times the crime rate the US does

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime

 

also the US is generally a little more violent but the British are more scared of crime

 

we have guns

4/21/19 2:55 AM
1/1/01
Posts: 55843
LOL@all this bullshit...

The homicide rate in America is nearly THREE TIMES that of the UK and America has more gun homicides per capita the UK has TOTAL homicides.

The discrepancy in other crimes is the result of differences in reporting and legal definitions.
4/21/19 3:05 AM
9/12/05
Posts: 6734
gregbrady - 
Ghengiseanie -
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. -
Ghengiseanie -

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/UK-Orthodox-Jewish-mayoral-candidate-apologizes-for-burning-New-Testament-488129

 

An Orthodox Jewish candidate for mayor of Manchester apologized after burning what he called a “missionary bible” and posting images of it on social media.

Shneur Odze, who is a candidate for the right-wing populist UK Independence Party, or UKIP, on the eve of Passover found the Hebrew-language New Testament produced by a proselytizing Christian group in his synagogue.

 

Orthodox Judaism Treats Women Like Filthy Little Things

If a man and a woman are drowning in a river, first they'll save the man, 'who is obligated to perform more commandments,' whereas a woman's 'wisdom is only in the spindle.' In fact, 'words of Torah should be burned rather than being given to women.'

https://www.haaretz.com/1.5223302

 

https://www.richarddawkins.net/2016/11/i-had-to-take-my-dirty-panties-to-a-rabbi-and-so-has-every-orthodox-jewish-woman/

 

The third pillar of Orthodox Judaism, family purity or niddah, is one very few people outside of that insular world are aware of.  However, if broken, the laws accompanying it carry a far greater penalty in the next world than those related to the Sabbath or keeping Kosher. The laws of family purity apply to all spectrums of orthodoxy, including the modern ones that allow women to wear trousers and uncover their hair, like the sect Ivanka Trump belongs to, for example. Even the slightest deviation from these laws would compromise a couple’s standing as practicing Orthodox Jews in the eyes of a rabbinical court.

What are these laws, you ask?

The laws of family purity revolve around the color of a woman’s vaginal discharge.

You see, beginning on the days when she anticipates her period, a husband and wife are forbidden from having any sexual relations until seven days following the end of her period. Considering orthodox law states that a period’s duration is a minimum of five days, this typically spans about two weeks or longer, depending on whether her post-menstrual discharge cooperates. In short, this means that for about half of every month, all aspects of an orthodox woman’s life, relationship, sexuality, and emotional health, are dictated by her vaginal discharge.

 

Religion of Equality!

bwwaahhahahah -  a fucking muslim dare write Religion of Equality!

so saving the man first... no problem. why the fuck do women get a pass and saved 1st?

a religion of goat fuckers have a issue with people who give a fuck about fucking a chick with nasty discharge. go figure

 

Those savage activities are in a savage country. Nobody is fucking goats in London which is your thread topic. I'm able to recognise the flaws of archaic beliefs on gays and women in some of my religions followers. But you clearly condone the orthodox ways outlined in those horror stories above. Cultural diversity via whataboutism. Task task. Weak.

there's female genital mutilation going on in London and the Paki population is hugely inbred in the UK

 

they dont magically turn civilized as soon as they cross the border

 

western civilization was built on a judeo-christian foundation

 

Muslims are barbarians trying to destroy it.


It sounds crazy, but it's true about the inbreeding.
4/21/19 7:30 AM
9/15/02
Posts: 591
729 - for those who believe diversity is a strength what is your response to these statistics?

there was a two-thirds increase in knife crime offences in england and wales between2014 - 2018.

the figure is considerably higher in london.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089

in 2017 two thirds of knife crime offenders in london were black or minority ethnic.

https://fullfact.org/crime/are-majority-youth-knife-offenders-minority-ethnic/

there were 2006 acid attacks in the UK between january 2016 and may 2018 - a 78% increase.

muliculturalism now has the UK with one of the highest per capita rates of acid attacks in the world.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1000969/UK-crime-2-000-acid-attacks-police-London


African Caribbean population in London: 13.3%

African Caribbean acid attack suspects: 38%

Over represented by 285%

squatdog

do you believe that these statistics are really the result of differences in reporting and legal definitions?

do you believe there is a correlation between the increase of rape offences and immigration in predominantly european nations?

(if you google 'rape and immigration statistics' there are numerous reputable sources)


i am interested if you think multiculturalism will work in the long term and all cultures and ethnicities can co exist peacefully.

or are races inherently tribal?
4/21/19 7:49 AM
1/1/01
Posts: 55847
Do you believe that there really is such an enormous gulf between homicides and 'violent crime' that can't be adequately explained?

Do you really believe that Sweden has more rapes than South Africa?

Did you know that under Swedish law, EVERY SINGLE allegation of rape is counted as a separate offence? So if a woman accuses a man of 50 counts of rape over 10 years, each count of rape is listed as a rape statistic for the year the allegation was made?
4/21/19 9:25 AM
10/2/12
Posts: 10311
Ghengiseanie -
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. -
Ghengiseanie -

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/UK-Orthodox-Jewish-mayoral-candidate-apologizes-for-burning-New-Testament-488129

 

An Orthodox Jewish candidate for mayor of Manchester apologized after burning what he called a “missionary bible” and posting images of it on social media.

Shneur Odze, who is a candidate for the right-wing populist UK Independence Party, or UKIP, on the eve of Passover found the Hebrew-language New Testament produced by a proselytizing Christian group in his synagogue.

 

Orthodox Judaism Treats Women Like Filthy Little Things

If a man and a woman are drowning in a river, first they'll save the man, 'who is obligated to perform more commandments,' whereas a woman's 'wisdom is only in the spindle.' In fact, 'words of Torah should be burned rather than being given to women.'

https://www.haaretz.com/1.5223302

 

https://www.richarddawkins.net/2016/11/i-had-to-take-my-dirty-panties-to-a-rabbi-and-so-has-every-orthodox-jewish-woman/

 

The third pillar of Orthodox Judaism, family purity or niddah, is one very few people outside of that insular world are aware of.  However, if broken, the laws accompanying it carry a far greater penalty in the next world than those related to the Sabbath or keeping Kosher. The laws of family purity apply to all spectrums of orthodoxy, including the modern ones that allow women to wear trousers and uncover their hair, like the sect Ivanka Trump belongs to, for example. Even the slightest deviation from these laws would compromise a couple’s standing as practicing Orthodox Jews in the eyes of a rabbinical court.

What are these laws, you ask?

The laws of family purity revolve around the color of a woman’s vaginal discharge.

You see, beginning on the days when she anticipates her period, a husband and wife are forbidden from having any sexual relations until seven days following the end of her period. Considering orthodox law states that a period’s duration is a minimum of five days, this typically spans about two weeks or longer, depending on whether her post-menstrual discharge cooperates. In short, this means that for about half of every month, all aspects of an orthodox woman’s life, relationship, sexuality, and emotional health, are dictated by her vaginal discharge.

 

Religion of Equality!

bwwaahhahahah -  a fucking muslim dare write Religion of Equality!

so saving the man first... no problem. why the fuck do women get a pass and saved 1st?

a religion of goat fuckers have a issue with people who give a fuck about fucking a chick with nasty discharge. go figure

 

Those savage activities are in a savage country. Nobody is fucking goats in London which is your thread topic. I'm able to recognise the flaws of archaic beliefs on gays and women in some of my religions followers. But you clearly condone the orthodox ways outlined in those horror stories above. Cultural diversity via whataboutism. Task task. Weak.

Oh yeah what about those Jews? 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/dead-hundreds-injured-explosions-rock-churches-hotels/story?id=62533965&fbclid=IwAR2oPEknyc9HKTq5GwhwLTac0ows86kioKqkojaQHvKl2wOrytwxe03qBB0

4/21/19 9:28 AM
3/27/03
Posts: 40828
Squatdog - Do you believe that there really is such an enormous gulf between homicides and 'violent crime' that can't be adequately explained?

Do you really believe that Sweden has more rapes than South Africa?

Did you know that under Swedish law, EVERY SINGLE allegation of rape is counted as a separate offence? So if a woman accuses a man of 50 counts of rape over 10 years, each count of rape is listed as a rape statistic for the year the allegation was made?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-45269764

“About 58% of men convicted in Sweden of rape and attempted rape over the past five years were born abroad, according to data from Swedish national TV.”

4/21/19 9:32 AM
10/2/12
Posts: 10313
jacktripper -
Squatdog - Do you believe that there really is such an enormous gulf between homicides and 'violent crime' that can't be adequately explained?

Do you really believe that Sweden has more rapes than South Africa?

Did you know that under Swedish law, EVERY SINGLE allegation of rape is counted as a separate offence? So if a woman accuses a man of 50 counts of rape over 10 years, each count of rape is listed as a rape statistic for the year the allegation was made?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-45269764

“About 58% of men convicted in Sweden of rape and attempted rape over the past five years were born abroad, according to data from Swedish national TV.”

Squat dog is a moron.  Don’t even engage him. I’m not sure if he’s just smoked himself stupid or he’s just drank too much of the kool-aid. 

4/21/19 11:05 AM
1/9/02
Posts: 48031

ghenghis and his freinds were in Sri Lanka for Easter

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48001720

 

more than 200 killed as churchs are targeted on Easter Sunday

 

Happy Easter Ghenghis!

4/21/19 11:14 AM
1/1/01
Posts: 64186
gregbrady - 
Tomato Can - Moronic article aimed at uninformed readers. If London were a city in the US it would have one of the lowest murder rates in the country. It's about as dangerous as Boise, Idaho.

it would have a much higher violent crime rate than Boise

violent crime rate in London is 22.8, in Boisie its 2.78

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/id/boise/crime

https://www.statista.com/statistics/380963/london-crime-rate-by-offence-group/

 

they're not even in the same ballpark. Boise is much much safer than London

you're ten times more likely to be a victim of a violent crime in London as you are in Boise

 

the UK has 3 times the crime rate the US does

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime

 

also the US is generally a little more violent but the British are more scared of crime

 

we have guns


I said murder rate, not violent crime rate. London is actually an excellent argument for gun control in this respect. There are very few murders there.

Also, I have my doubts that the data in your sources are measuring the same thing. If UK violent crime stats are measured the same way as US violent crime stats, 22.8 per 1000 residents would make London significantly more dangerous than the most dangerous cities in America, including Detroit, St. Louis, and Baltimore. Considering the murder rate would place it as one of the safest cities in America, I think it's very likely that the violent crime stats are measured differently.
Edited: 4/21/19 11:20 AM
1/9/02
Posts: 48035
Tomato Can -
gregbrady - 
Tomato Can - Moronic article aimed at uninformed readers. If London were a city in the US it would have one of the lowest murder rates in the country. It's about as dangerous as Boise, Idaho.

it would have a much higher violent crime rate than Boise

violent crime rate in London is 22.8, in Boisie its 2.78

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/id/boise/crime

https://www.statista.com/statistics/380963/london-crime-rate-by-offence-group/

 

they're not even in the same ballpark. Boise is much much safer than London

you're ten times more likely to be a victim of a violent crime in London as you are in Boise

 

the UK has 3 times the crime rate the US does

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime

 

also the US is generally a little more violent but the British are more scared of crime

 

we have guns


I said murder rate, not violent crime rate. London is actually an excellent argument for gun control in this respect. There are very few murders there.

Also, I have my doubts that the data in your sources are measuring the same thing. If UK violent crime stats are measured the same way as US violent crime stats, 22.8 per 1000 residents would make London significantly more dangerous than the most dangerous cities in America, including Detroit, St. Louis, and Baltimore. Considering the murder rate would place it as one of the safest cities in America, I think it's very likely that the violent crime stats are measured differently.

the UK is a good argument for having a button that would make all guns disappear magically. that's nothing like gun control in the US. they dont have many guns in the first place there. I still think the elderly and women have a fundamental right to self defense but I see their point.

 

I just want to point out the UK is not that much safer than the US outside of homicides (over 50% of homicides in the US are gang related) we have a gang problem.

 

as for you questioning the statistics, thats your own bias talking. London has become significantly more dangerous in the last 20 yrs. lack of guns is pretty much the only reason London isn 't Detroit. our crime rate has been plummeting in the last 20 yrs in contrast

Edited: 4/21/19 11:42 AM
1/1/01
Posts: 64189
Sorry greg, but no. Questioning the methodologies behind statistics compiled from disparate sources is not "bias". It is a completely reasonable thing to do. London is one of the wealthiest and most cosmopolitan cities in the world. Detroit is a distressed shithole with massive unemployment and poverty. If you think London is actually significantly more dangerous than Detroit, and you're basing this on a single statistical comparison where the 2 stats being compared are from different sources with unknown methodologies, you are the one guilty of bias.

I will however, somewhat agree with you on the gun control issue. Even though I am generally pro gun control, we have so many guns here already that I'm doubtful any meaningful gun control is actually feasible. Not to mention how broadly the 2nd amendment is interpreted nowadays.
4/21/19 12:06 PM
1/9/02
Posts: 48040
Tomato Can - Sorry greg, but no. Questioning the methodologies behind statistics compiled from disparate sources is not "bias". It is a completely reasonable thing to do. London is one of the wealthiest and most cosmopolitan cities in the world. Detroit is a distressed shithole with massive unemployment and poverty. If you think London is actually significantly more dangerous than Detroit, and you're basing this on a single statistical comparison where the 2 stats being compared are from different sources with unknown methodologies, you are the one guilty of bias.

I will however, somewhat agree with you on the gun control issue. Even though I am generally pro gun control, we have so many guns here already that I'm doubtful any meaningful gun control is actually feasible. Not to mention how broadly the 2nd amendment is interpreted nowadays.

its not significantly more dangerous

 

the homicide rate in Detroit is much higher, London is a pretty dangerous however

 

its fair to call bullshit, describe why its bullshit, do you have a better source?

 

all you're saying is that your gut tells you its not true

 

If you really think Boise is as bad as London show me. Im calling bullshit on that

4/21/19 10:19 PM
1/1/01
Posts: 64190
London's murder rate is only slightly higher than Boise. Would I consider it more dangerous than Boise? Absolutely. But do I believe it is more dangerous than Detroit despite having a murder rate 30-40x lower? Definitely not. I'd consider it extremely safe compared to most American cities.

I'd be much more concerned about violence living in Belfast or Glasgow than London, and it wouldn't be due to Somalis or Congolese.
4/22/19 12:29 AM
3/15/15
Posts: 11562
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4/22/19 7:30 AM
9/15/02
Posts: 592
Squatdog - Do you believe that there really is such an enormous gulf between homicides and 'violent crime' that can't be adequately explained?

Do you really believe that Sweden has more rapes than South Africa?

Did you know that under Swedish law, EVERY SINGLE allegation of rape is counted as a separate offence? So if a woman accuses a man of 50 counts of rape over 10 years, each count of rape is listed as a rape statistic for the year the allegation was made?

cognitive dissonance

the problem with multiculturalism is that statistics do not support the 'diversity is our strength' mantra.

you are obviously aware that immigrants from africa and the middle east are over represented in crime and welfare statistics in western countries - you just choose to ignore it.


you did not answer my question, i am genuinely interested -

do think multiculturalism will work in the long term and all cultures and ethnicities can co exist peacefully.

or are races inherently tribal?
4/22/19 8:44 AM
5/22/02
Posts: 23064
Welcome to national Stephen Lawrence day, something I would not have known about if it wasn't slapped all over social media and which matters to nobody outside the London metropolitan bubble.