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8/15/19 7:47 AM
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The NHB connection:

Reporter claims years ago that Zinoviev told him in an interview that cops would give Epstein a heads up the night before they would come while he was on probation.

When asked about it in a new interview Zinoviev tells the reporter not to put himself in trouble.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/jeffrey-epsteins-bodyguard-igor-zinoviev-on-his-old-boss.html?utm_medium=s1&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=nym

8/15/19 7:48 AM
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People are forgetting a major factor here. He was a pedo in prison. Maybe everyone in the prison including the Co's is happy he's dead. 


I don't think they are forgetting it but if they let that happen to probably the most high profile prisoner in the country they are either completely incompetent or corrupt.

I agree. I don't follow political scandals so I should probably not comment. 

8/15/19 2:24 PM
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Funniest Epstein/Trump/Clinton thing ever

 

8/15/19 2:42 PM
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https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/08/14/virgin-islands-sen-evidence-epstein-estate-may-be-lost/

 

Sounds like the evidence some how got lost.

8/15/19 2:43 PM
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8/15/19 2:58 PM
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https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/08/14/virgin-islands-sen-evidence-epstein-estate-may-be-lost/

 

Sounds like the evidence some how got lost.


The claims by the senator in that article are concerns that far too much time transpired between the time of his arrest and the raid on the island.  Not that the evidence they acquried got mysteriously lost.

However, I agree that the island evidence left there for a month was beyond incompetence.  Either it was intentional or complete buffonery.  You don't leave critical evidence at a crime scene for that long after an arrest.  Especially when it's suspected that evidence can put away some very big and influential names.

8/15/19 3:05 PM
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So we have a new dope conspiracy 

 

cant wait for the Netflix doc 

8/15/19 3:14 PM
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Strangulation?

 

 

How fucking long can it take them to check the videos? Do they not have a fast forward button?

I picture an old 8mm reel to reel tape being rewound by hand. Then letting it sit in one spot with the bulb overheating the film as it goes up in smoke. I can attest to the possibility of this i lost my beloved Vanassa Del Rio tape in a similar fashion.

8/15/19 10:11 PM
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8/15/19 10:13 PM
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uhhhhh

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Strangulation?

 

 

How fucking long can it take them to check the videos? Do they not have a fast forward button?

I picture an old 8mm reel to reel tape being rewound by hand. Then letting it sit in one spot with the bulb overheating the film as it goes up in smoke. I can attest to the possibility of this i lost my beloved Vanassa Del Rio tape in a similar fashion.

 

My understanding is that there are no cameras monitoring the inmates themselves, but they do have them monitoring the hallways to see anyone going in or out of the cells.  I did a recent search and it turns out the claims that the camera malfunctioning has been neither confirmed nor denied by officials.

 

8/16/19 12:41 AM
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8/16/19 12:48 AM
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Strangulation?

 

 

How fucking long can it take them to check the videos? Do they not have a fast forward button?

I picture an old 8mm reel to reel tape being rewound by hand. Then letting it sit in one spot with the bulb overheating the film as it goes up in smoke. I can attest to the possibility of this i lost my beloved Vanassa Del Rio tape in a similar fashion.

 

My understanding is that there are no cameras monitoring the inmates themselves, but they do have them monitoring the hallways to see anyone going in or out of the cells.  I did a recent search and it turns out the claims that the camera malfunctioning has been neither confirmed nor denied by officials.

 

Hopefully we'll find out the truth, theres a ton of questions to be answered.

8/16/19 4:09 AM
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Where did you find "screaming from cell"???? 

8/16/19 4:09 AM
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https://youtu.be/TI9fI2TK_Ns

The truth, even if you don't like it.

8/16/19 4:34 AM
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Edited: 8/16/19 7:02 AM
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ttt

8/16/19 5:20 AM
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Strangulation?

 

 

How fucking long can it take them to check the videos? Do they not have a fast forward button?

I picture an old 8mm reel to reel tape being rewound by hand. Then letting it sit in one spot with the bulb overheating the film as it goes up in smoke. I can attest to the possibility of this i lost my beloved Vanassa Del Rio tape in a similar fashion.

 

My understanding is that there are no cameras monitoring the inmates themselves, but they do have them monitoring the hallways to see anyone going in or out of the cells.  I did a recent search and it turns out the claims that the camera malfunctioning has been neither confirmed nor denied by officials.

 


The longer they are quiet the more it makes me wonder about whether the relevant cameras weren't operational (for whatever reason) that night. I feel like if they had footage there would have been leaks as what it shows.
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ttt

 

8/16/19 7:12 AM
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Where did you find "screaming from cell"???? 

Cellies

8/16/19 8:12 AM
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https://youtu.be/TI9fI2TK_Ns

The truth, even if you don't like it.

Were you drunk when you recorded this?

Edited: 8/16/19 10:11 AM
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Strangulation?

 

 

How fucking long can it take them to check the videos? Do they not have a fast forward button?

I picture an old 8mm reel to reel tape being rewound by hand. Then letting it sit in one spot with the bulb overheating the film as it goes up in smoke. I can attest to the possibility of this i lost my beloved Vanassa Del Rio tape in a similar fashion.

 

My understanding is that there are no cameras monitoring the inmates themselves, but they do have them monitoring the hallways to see anyone going in or out of the cells.  I did a recent search and it turns out the claims that the camera malfunctioning has been neither confirmed nor denied by officials.

 


The longer they are quiet the more it makes me wonder about whether the relevant cameras weren't operational (for whatever reason) that night. I feel like if they had footage there would have been leaks as what it shows.

 

I don't care if it's conspiracy theory.  From everything revealed so far it really looks like Epstein might have CIA.  That could mean he was just being used as an assett and really was a pedo, or he might have been an actual agent. 

 

1) Donald Barr who was OSS(precursor to CIA) hires him for his first teaching gig.

2) The State Department leases him a townhouse that was acquired from Iran then sues him for subletting

3)  Epstein's body guard Igor Zinoviev states yeas ago that police would regularly come by Epstein's house to warn him of visits while he was on probation.   Igor said when he asked Epstein why they were doing that for him, Epstein told him that for his safety he wouldn't want to know.

4) Federal prosector Acosta defended the light sentence he gave Epstein years ago by saying his superiors told him to back off Epstein because he was way above his pay grade and that he was intelligence.

5)  Epstein's madam G. Maxwell is photographed right in the open at an In and Out Burger yesterday at a table reading  The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives.  She even left a review the same day stating her friend who died recently was CIA.

Long story short, if Epstein really was a CIA asset then I think he was killed by them because he was compromised by the FBI.  I also think the ridiculous one month delay before the FBI was able to raid the island was probably arranged by higher ups so the CIA could remove all important evidence (blackmail material).

I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist but there are so many angles to this I think the whole thing is fun as hell to speculate about.

8/16/19 10:15 AM
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Question. 

 

Could his bone have been broken from the previous attack in the jail cell which showed bruising on his neck?

8/16/19 10:20 AM
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Neck injuries would occur in the dark ages because you're falling from a height and then the noose tightense. A strangulation from a height right above your head, I find it highly unlikely you'd break any bones. You'd just cut off blood and air supply and pass out. There's suicide videos online of people having gone the right way. The voicebox and what not breaking would be from outer force. More bones than that breaking, why the fuck would anyone committing suicide go at it that way? That's just my opinion. I doubt, however, the bones would've been broken from the previous attack since he was capable of talking to his lawyers.

8/16/19 10:21 AM
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