OtherGround Forums HK416/417 Build Club

9/9/20 11:16 PM
7/14/16
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EKPOGI -
Fighting -
Y Not -
SergesBeefyHopeFlaps - so what would be the difference between doing this and just buying an HK MR556?

Whats the difference between a wasr and a polytech legend?  The og tells me a hk416 is the holy grail of ar’s.  Why not try to have one?  1 piece at a time...

Sent you a PM. Then it errored, so not sure if it went through. 

Dick pics?

Sorry faggo...  

9/9/20 11:31 PM
6/13/03
Posts: 29586

I sent my 417 lower out for engraving earlier this week.

 

I guess that means I'm in!

9/9/20 11:35 PM
6/13/03
Posts: 29587

Here are my two builds so far. Top one was totally pieced together by me.

 

Bottom one is on an AI dated parts kit I got put on a registered pistol lower. Its missing the trigger guard in the pic but i got a black enhanced one for it now

9/9/20 11:52 PM
6/13/03
Posts: 29588
Some other items to consider picking up to help your build, backorder, or be put on a notification list for if you are building one of these

Ral Ejection Port Cover:
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/ejection-port-cover-parts/ejection-port-covers/hk416-mr556-ejection-port-cover-ral-7008-sku760001899-135934-249038.aspx

Ral Buttstock
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/buttstocks/hk416-stock-collapsible-mil-spec-prod134976.aspx

Correct Gas Block for 14.5/16" barrels
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/gas-system-parts/gas-blocks/416-block-gas-hk416-prod75981.aspx

Correct Gas Block for 10" Barrels
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/203587

HK Ambi Selector
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/safety-parts/safeties/416-safety-axle-semi-s-hk416-prod72673.aspx

Standard Selector arms
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/50227870
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/safety-parts/safeties/416-selector-lever-auto-hk416-prod72669.aspx


IF you want to start looking into Rarer and even more expensive shit, that takes a while to get:

https://www.rksusa.net/category-s/163.htm




9/9/20 11:54 PM
6/13/03
Posts: 29589
Even if it says in stock at RKS, plan on waiting 6+ months for it to come from overseas.
Edited: 9/10/20 12:06 AM
6/13/03
Posts: 29590

Some inspiration and specs if you want to go the CAG clone route

https://www.clonerifles.com/theclones/hk-416d-cag

9/10/20 12:09 AM
7/27/04
Posts: 25559
Sogsteel -

Here are my two builds so far. Top one was totally pieced together by me.

 

Bottom one is on an AI dated parts kit I got put on a registered pistol lower. Its missing the trigger guard in the pic but i got a black enhanced one for it now

Nice

Edited: 9/10/20 12:43 AM
6/13/03
Posts: 29592
SergesBeefyHopeFlaps - so what would be the difference between doing this and just buying an HK MR556?


Most of the MR556 is made in the USA. This build is to have a rifle built on parts mostly made by ze Germans.

Its like building an E German parts kit vs buying a Kalashnikov USA off the shelf.

Plus parts hunting is fun!

9/10/20 1:07 AM
2/12/14
Posts: 3553
Sogsteel -

Here are my two builds so far. Top one was totally pieced together by me.

 

Bottom one is on an AI dated parts kit I got put on a registered pistol lower. Its missing the trigger guard in the pic but i got a black enhanced one for it now

 

whats total cost, not including scopes, lights and shit. basic rifle. ??

9/10/20 1:11 AM
2/12/14
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and what is the requirements for atf letter? is there a web site that goes into that? 

9/10/20 1:13 AM
2/12/14
Posts: 3555

 

 

in other words lets fucking do this. I am in the process of organizing my tools and have a new bench. more room means I need a new project. 

9/10/20 1:43 AM
6/13/03
Posts: 29593
John Cable -
Sogsteel -

Here are my two builds so far. Top one was totally pieced together by me.

 

Bottom one is on an AI dated parts kit I got put on a registered pistol lower. Its missing the trigger guard in the pic but i got a black enhanced one for it now

 

whats total cost, not including scopes, lights and shit. basic rifle. ??

I never tallied it all up. The top one raped my wallet. Finding a parts kit could add considerable savings.

I think a comeplete basic rifle could possibly be pulled off for under $4k depending on the barrel and bolt/carrier route chosen. The german stuff is big bucks. But thats just a guess, dont quote me on it. There are quite a few ways to build these. Its personal preference and budget.

9/10/20 9:15 AM
12/29/03
Posts: 48350
Sogsteel - 
SergesBeefyHopeFlaps - so what would be the difference between doing this and just buying an HK MR556?


Most of the MR556 is made in the USA. This build is to have a rifle built on parts mostly made by ze Germans.

Its like building an E German parts kit vs buying a Kalashnikov USA off the shelf.

Plus parts hunting is fun!


Okay that makes sense then. The WASR Vs Norinco argument didnt make sense, but this does... Interesting. very.... interesting.

*thinking cap*
9/10/20 11:06 AM
1/23/14
Posts: 1480
Sogsteel - Some other items to consider picking up to help your build, backorder, or be put on a notification list for if you are building one of these

Ral Ejection Port Cover:
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/ejection-port-cover-parts/ejection-port-covers/hk416-mr556-ejection-port-cover-ral-7008-sku760001899-135934-249038.aspx

Ral Buttstock
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/buttstocks/hk416-stock-collapsible-mil-spec-prod134976.aspx

Correct Gas Block for 14.5/16" barrels
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/gas-system-parts/gas-blocks/416-block-gas-hk416-prod75981.aspx

Correct Gas Block for 10" Barrels
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/203587

HK Ambi Selector
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/safety-parts/safeties/416-safety-axle-semi-s-hk416-prod72673.aspx

Standard Selector arms
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/50227870
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/safety-parts/safeties/416-selector-lever-auto-hk416-prod72669.aspx


IF you want to start looking into Rarer and even more expensive shit, that takes a while to get:

https://www.rksusa.net/category-s/163.htm





Sup Sog! Thanks again for your help!

What is a reasonable price to pay for an available bolt assembly? Under $500?

Edited: 9/10/20 11:17 AM
1/23/14
Posts: 1481

Brownells Promo Code for $15 Off Orders $150+: "TAG"

PMAGs are for the Radical, lol

 

^morning purchase

9/10/20 11:29 AM
7/27/04
Posts: 25564
fiznadd -

Brownells Promo Code for $15 Off Orders $150+: "TAG"

PMAGs are for the Radical, lol

 

^morning purchase

Thanks for posting!

Edited: 9/10/20 11:42 AM
6/13/03
Posts: 29595
fiznadd -
Sogsteel - Some other items to consider picking up to help your build, backorder, or be put on a notification list for if you are building one of these

Ral Ejection Port Cover:
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/ejection-port-cover-parts/ejection-port-covers/hk416-mr556-ejection-port-cover-ral-7008-sku760001899-135934-249038.aspx

Ral Buttstock
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/buttstocks/hk416-stock-collapsible-mil-spec-prod134976.aspx

Correct Gas Block for 14.5/16" barrels
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/gas-system-parts/gas-blocks/416-block-gas-hk416-prod75981.aspx

Correct Gas Block for 10" Barrels
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/203587

HK Ambi Selector
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/safety-parts/safeties/416-safety-axle-semi-s-hk416-prod72673.aspx

Standard Selector arms
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/50227870
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/safety-parts/safeties/416-selector-lever-auto-hk416-prod72669.aspx


IF you want to start looking into Rarer and even more expensive shit, that takes a while to get:

https://www.rksusa.net/category-s/163.htm



 
 

Sup Sog! Thanks again for your help!

What is a reasonable price to pay for an available bolt assembly? Under $500?

I just checked and I paid $580 for my brand new  german complete carrier from Gatewood. It doesn't appear they have any listed atm. They tend to be expensive but everything is crazy right now so i would pay that price again if I was doing another build.

9/10/20 11:53 AM
7/27/11
Posts: 32826

Sogsteel, dope guns. Voted up. 
 

Sadly I think CAG is rocking KACs now. DEVGRU has Noveske builds. End of an era, which sucks.

Edited: 9/10/20 12:01 PM
1/23/14
Posts: 1484
Sogsteel - 
fiznadd -
Sogsteel - Some other items to consider picking up to help your build, backorder, or be put on a notification list for if you are building one of these

Ral Ejection Port Cover:
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/ejection-port-cover-parts/ejection-port-covers/hk416-mr556-ejection-port-cover-ral-7008-sku760001899-135934-249038.aspx

Ral Buttstock
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/buttstocks/hk416-stock-collapsible-mil-spec-prod134976.aspx

Correct Gas Block for 14.5/16" barrels
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/gas-system-parts/gas-blocks/416-block-gas-hk416-prod75981.aspx

Correct Gas Block for 10" Barrels
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/203587

HK Ambi Selector
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/safety-parts/safeties/416-safety-axle-semi-s-hk416-prod72673.aspx

Standard Selector arms
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/50227870
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/safety-parts/safeties/416-selector-lever-auto-hk416-prod72669.aspx


IF you want to start looking into Rarer and even more expensive shit, that takes a while to get:

https://www.rksusa.net/category-s/163.htm



 
 

Sup Sog! Thanks again for your help!

What is a reasonable price to pay for an available bolt assembly? Under $500?

I just checked and I paid $580 for my brand new  german complete carrier from Gatewood. It doesn't appear they have any listed atm. They tend to be expensive but everything is crazy right now so i would pay that price again if I was doing another build.

 

Ooo nice, yup that's the one I was looking at, thought maybe I could find it cheaper. Thank you sir!

 

9/10/20 12:09 PM
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9/10/20 12:26 PM
7/12/14
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Im no gun expert but I love to build shit

Edited: 9/10/20 3:36 PM
6/13/03
Posts: 29596
Uhtred Ragnarson -

Sogsteel, dope guns. Voted up. 
 

Sadly I think CAG is rocking KACs now. DEVGRU has Noveske builds. End of an era, which sucks.

TY

I'm not sure how true that is. I dont think Noveske even sells complete rifles to the military, only some parts and barrels.

 

9/10/20 7:25 PM
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9/10/20 8:38 PM
3/3/12
Posts: 795

Find a real 416 upper, OTB is even better. Brownells is fine for the lower, just get a real HK lower parts kit with a Geissele’s HK trigger. I would strongly suggest not getting the Brownells barrel, get nefarious barrel if you can’t afford the real thing.

9/10/20 8:42 PM
3/3/12
Posts: 796


HK OTB Upper/barrel