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Genghis confused the Jordan Valley with the Kingdom of Jordan.
I don’t know how serious Bibi is with this. Usually his right-wing song and dance before elections is kept vague so he can’t really be called a liar. The Jordan Valley annexation is much more specific and pointed. It sounds more believable.
The stuff about annexing all settlements was bundled with a way to get out of it. The Trump Peace Plan, or the lack of one.
Anthony, what would your reaction be if Israel annexed the Jordan Valley? And what do you think the world's reaction would be?
It is rough. I always have it in the back of my mind that I’ll move back to Israel and even get my citizenship. If all of the settlements are annexed, that is game over for that idea. Israel will have become an Apartheid State and the Zionist dream will be dead. The best case scenario would be to have the inevitable crisis result in a bi-national state instead of something worse. Salvage what can be salvaged. Give me Yavne and it’s scholars.
I don’t think the Jordan Valley annexation is quite beyond me red lines. I’d be pissed, but it would still be salvageable. The Jordan Valley is agricultural, but not many people live there. Most of that land area is already on lock down as military-use. It dicks over the Palestinians and makes peace even more difficult than before, but it is land that is prime for being swapped while allowing Israel to maintain some kind of presence on the Jordanian border.
As for the world, I don’t know but it won’t be good.
derp.. typica jew hating trope "Apartheid State". No, it wouldnt. Israel not only has miles to go to have the same laws as "Apartheid", and, Apartheid was specfically the law set of SA. Even if tey had the exact same laws, it wouldnt be Apartheid.
For now. The full annexation of the settlement blocs, which would make a third of the population of the State into non-citizen resident aliens without any possibility of citizenship and few rights, living in discreet pockets of essentially bantustans with no guarantee of freedom of movement between them. That action would cover those miles. You can make up another word for it if Apartheid is too specific. Hafrada is the closest to it, but doesn’t feel strong enough.
I am skeptical that Bibi would follow through with that promise, though. He isn’t that crazy. I don’t think.
being a democracy, and having a actual court that doesnt necessarily side with the government, i could see a lawsuit, if it didnt happen immediately, if israel did annex any terrority, i could see them becoming citizens, just like every arab was given the oppertunity to become a full israeli citizen when they became a state. The arabs living in the Golan when annex were offered citizenship. And take guess. Did they accept the offer?
its funny, how YOU and EVERY anti jew calls israel apartheid inits current form. the ara members of the kneset hd the never to call israel it when the nation state law as passed . they are members of the government, duely elected and serving. there are specific governmental agency completely run by arabs for arabs, yet they say apartheid because israel DARE establish a national langue that isnt theirs. israeli citizens with every right a jew has. And you have the never to use the term too. Why not just them filthy vermin and be done with it
you know, palestinians have no one to blame but themselves. when israel was formed, their were 85k in gaza. theres 2.5 million today. Conditions were so horrible, they decided to have 20 kids each, just so they can suffer more. he's a fucking idea, how about you move the fuck out and better your life? Oh, wait, everywhere they went, they were so horrible to the host nation, they were kicked out. Given a home in Jordan, and they repay the kindness by trying to overthrow the government. Cry me a river.
Not once did I say that Israel is currently an apartheid state. You just keep on keeping on with that hardline black and white thinking. Everyone who disagrees with you is just some Jew-hater. If Israel annexes all of the settlements like Bibi said he would do, then it would become one.
Granting the West Bank Palestinians citizenship would be one fix. It would mean Netanyahu would never be Prime Minister ever again, though. And staying in power is the one guiding principle that he follows, so it would never happen.
wrong wrong wrong. i guess allowing arabs in the golan to become citizens was the end the admin then right?
the fact you even typed the words shows thats exactly that what you think of israel. Evil jews oppressing the poor arabs who only want to work their bodies bloody for their jew overloards.
pals have their own fucking stock exchange. they have a massive internal and for export produce industry
look at the horrible conditions the jews make the arabs live in
The Druzim in Golan are Syrian citizens that don’t want to be branded as traitors if Golan is ever returned to Syria. I don’t think there is any chance of that happening, and I really hope it doesn’t, but it is a problem they have to worry about. Though, there has been a modest increase in the Golan Druzim applying for and receiving Israeli citizenship since the Syrian Civil War began. But, there aren’t enough of them to pose a demographic or electoral threat.
If the West Bank Palestinians become Israeli citizens, they will become a dominant political force in the country. And they sure as shit won’t be joining coalitions with Likud or the other right wing parties. No more Netanyahu. At that point, the annexation of Gaza would become a fait accompli. Palestinians would make up half of the electorate and growing.
You are taking a much further Left position here than I am. Kinda surprising. I like having a Jewish State.
well, fuck them then.
there was a documentary about jewish DRs saying a palestinian kids life in a jewish hospital.
the film crew asked his mother what she wanted for her son when he grews up.
she said "i hope he grows up to be a suicide bomber and kills as many jews as he can"
thats the mentality of pals. And i qoute "when they start loving their children, more than they hate jews, there will be peace"