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3/3/18
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The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s acting chief scientist said in an email to colleagues Sunday that he is investigating whether the agency’s response to President Trump’s Hurricane Dorian tweets constituted a violation of NOAA policies and ethics. Also on Monday, the director of the National Weather Service broke with NOAA leadership over its handling of Trump’s Dorian tweets and statements.

In an email to NOAA staff that was obtained by The Washington Post, NOAA’s Craig McLean, called the agency’s response “political” and a “danger to public health and safety.”

NOAA officials caused an internal uproar on Sept. 6 when the agency issued an unsigned statement that defended Trump’s false claim about Alabama and admonished the Weather Service’s Birmingham division for speaking “in absolute terms.”

According to emails obtained by The Post, before the statement on Friday, NOAA staff were instructed to “only stick with official National Hurricane Center forecasts if questions arise from some national level social media posts which hit the news this afternoon” and not to “provide any opinion” in response to Trump’s initial Alabama tweets.
 
The agency sent a similar message warning scientists and meteorologists not to speak out on Sept. 4, after Trump showed a hurricane map from Aug. 29 modified with a hand-drawn half-circle in black Sharpie around Alabama.
 
In his email to employees Sunday, McLean criticized his agency’s public statement, saying it prioritized politics over NOAA’s mission.
 
“The NWS Forecaster(s) corrected any public misunderstanding in an expert and timely way, as they should,” McLean wrote. “There followed, last Friday, an unsigned news release from 'NOAA’ that inappropriately and incorrectly contradicted the NWS forecaster. My understanding is that this intervention to contradict the forecaster was not based on science but on external factors including reputation and appearance, or simply put, political.”
 
He also wrote that “the content of this news release is very concerning as it compromises the ability of NOAA to convey life-saving information necessary to avoid substantial and specific danger to public health and safety."
 
“If the public cannot trust our information, or we debase our forecaster’s warnings and products, that specific danger arises,” McLean wrote.
 
As a result, McLean told his staff that “I am pursuing the potential violations of our NOAA Administrative Order on Scientific Integrity."
 
Also on Monday, National Weather Service Director Louis Uccellini got a standing ovation at a major weather industry conference in Huntsville, Ala., when he broke with his bosses at NOAA by enthusiastically backing his agency’s forecasters regarding their performance during Hurricane Dorian.
 
Uccellini, who has been part of NWS since 1989, praised Birmingham’s NWS office for clarifying that there was no threat to the region and upholding “the integrity of the forecasting process.”
 
10 days ago
3/3/18
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Hmm....

So the NOAA chief scientist, and the director of NWS, *both* say that the unsigned statement backing Trump's nonsense was politically motivated bullshit and, simply, FALSE.

Spin doctors, start your engines! Surely you can still find some way to pretend he isn't just an idiot who lies to cover up his idiocy even when it means panicking an entire state?

10 days ago
12/29/18
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ANY DAY NOW.

 

 

dude, he could kill someone on 5th Avenue and he’s still going to get re-elected. 

10 days ago
8/20/05
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Lol..... No one cares. 

10 days ago
8/18/13
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Not reading a long stupid thread by a pedo defender who is literally paid to shill online.

10 days ago
3/3/18
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Bret Kavanaugh -

ANY DAY NOW.

 

 

dude, he could kill someone on 5th Avenue and he’s still going to get re-elected. 

Any day now Trump supporters will realize he's a piece of worthless garbage and stop tying themselves in knots making excuses for his lies and idiocy. 

Oh wait...nope. 

10 days ago
3/3/18
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darren23372 -

Lol..... No one cares. 

Yeah, why would anyone care that the president of the USA goes on TV and lies about which states are going to be hit by a fucking hurricane?

Lol

10 days ago
2/13/16
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We got him this time..

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6/27/05
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10 days ago
1/7/09
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The left has cried wolf on trump and attacked the character of trump voters so many times that at this point it's their own fault that people literally do not care what he does.  Years of nonstop Trump derangement syndrome and unfounded Russiagate blabbering have ruined the possibility for any meaningful criticism of him.

10 days ago
3/3/18
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Darth Potato -

We got him this time..

Guys who cares if the president went on TV and lies about which states will be hit by a hurricane and then doubled down in the face of a flat statement from the forecasters that he was wrong?

Who cares if he pressured scientists to put out a bullshit statement to make it seem like he was right all along?

Not us! We're still steamed about Obama saluting with a coffee cup in the other hand. 

10 days ago
8/5/17
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We must get him. We must. At all costs. No matter who we are.

10 days ago
1/25/04
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Libs are still losing their shit over this? LOL

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12/29/18
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turducken -

The left has cried wolf on trump and attacked the character of trump voters so many times that at this point it's their own fault that people literally do not care what he does.  Years of nonstop Trump derangement syndrome and unfounded Russiagate blabbering have ruined the possibility for any meaningful criticism of him.

The most pithy statement possible on why no one cares. Take note op 

10 days ago
3/3/18
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turducken -

The left has cried wolf on trump and attacked the character of trump voters so many times that at this point it's their own fault that people literally do not care what he does.  Years of nonstop Trump derangement syndrome and unfounded Russiagate blabbering have ruined the possibility for any meaningful criticism of him.

Years of nonstop lies and idiocy from Trump, 100% of it slavishly defended by his retard supporters....since day fucking one. 

So no, there was never a time when trash people cared about any criticism of or wrongdoing by Dear Leader. 

Love it when you guys try to pretend that it's a boy who cried wolf thing though, after your hilarious cycle of "this didn't happen" "okay it happened but he was right" "okay it happened and he was wrong but who cares" on every single topic. 

Eat shit. 

10 days ago
3/3/18
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Bret Kavanaugh -
turducken -

The left has cried wolf on trump and attacked the character of trump voters so many times that at this point it's their own fault that people literally do not care what he does.  Years of nonstop Trump derangement syndrome and unfounded Russiagate blabbering have ruined the possibility for any meaningful criticism of him.

The most pithy statement possible on why no one cares. Take note op 

You're the guy who lied repeatedly about what was said at the Kavanaugh hearing, right? No surprise to see you not caring about your team's team's lies.

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turducken -

The left has cried wolf on trump and attacked the character of trump voters so many times that at this point it's their own fault that people literally do not care what he does.  Years of nonstop Trump derangement syndrome and unfounded Russiagate blabbering have ruined the possibility for any meaningful criticism of him.

No, it's the Trump cult that has never cared what he did (or does). Everyone else still does.

I don't think the typical Trump fanatic realizes that when The Donald said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and his supporters would still follow him, it was not only him bragging about how great he (thought) he was, it was his way of saying how stupid and gullible his followers are.

Sadly, he was right on at least the second part: There's clearly nothing Trump can ever say or do at this point that will drive his core away. Which means they are no longer mere supporters, they are doormats, or, in less polite terms, his bitch.

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12/29/18
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Ill Portents -
Bret Kavanaugh -
turducken -

The left has cried wolf on trump and attacked the character of trump voters so many times that at this point it's their own fault that people literally do not care what he does.  Years of nonstop Trump derangement syndrome and unfounded Russiagate blabbering have ruined the possibility for any meaningful criticism of him.

The most pithy statement possible on why no one cares. Take note op 

You're the guy who lied repeatedly about what was said at the Kavanaugh hearing, right? No surprise to see you not caring about your team's team's lies.

Lol, if you don’t understand what happened at the Kavanaugh “hearing” then you’re a partisan hack or a dipshit. It was political grandstanding by the dems that tried to smear kav as a rapist. 

Keep on keeping on dude. The majority will never care about your POV

10 days ago
5/22/05
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turducken - 

The left has cried wolf on trump and attacked the character of trump voters so many times that at this point it's their own fault that people literally do not care what he does.  Years of nonstop Trump derangement syndrome and unfounded Russiagate blabbering have ruined the possibility for any meaningful criticism of him.


"The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist".
10 days ago
11/1/03
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I know Trumps an egomanic whose loose with the truth but he the only candidate who promised to provide border security, get better trade deals, and select judges who support the constitution. Hes done or tried his best to fufill his campaign promices which most presidents forget when elected. His constant baiting of the dems innapropriate but funny. The fact that hes under constant 7x24 attact by the dems, msm and the dem shills on here makes me want to vote for him again.

10 days ago
1/1/01
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Poor Orcus.
Trump as president is killing her.

And who knows what's really going on, thanks to the fake news and social media censorship. Thanks Democrats!
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11/7/07
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Legit LOL
10 days ago
6/27/05
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Ill Portents -
Darth Potato -

We got him this time..

Guys who cares if the president went on TV and lies about which states will be hit by a hurricane and then doubled down in the face of a flat statement from the forecasters that he was wrong?

Who cares if he pressured scientists to put out a bullshit statement to make it seem like he was right all along?

Not us! We're still steamed about Obama saluting with a coffee cup in the other hand. 

Meep Meep!

10 days ago
8/7/12
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Ill Portents -
Bret Kavanaugh -

ANY DAY NOW.

 

 

dude, he could kill someone on 5th Avenue and he’s still going to get re-elected. 

Any day now Trump supporters will realize he's a piece of worthless garbage and stop tying themselves in knots making excuses for his lies and idiocy. 

Oh wait...nope. 

If that's how you feel then WE better prepare ourselves for being bombarded by YOU and your ridiculous asine threads for the next 4 years.