OtherGround Forums Joe Rogan speaks on looming US Civil War

11 days ago
3/11/11
Posts: 4287

There will with 100% certainty be another revolution in America’s near future, but whether or not it extends into a protracted civil war will depend on the decisiveness of the revolutionary leadership in striking down their enemies in the hour of conflict. But who will this conflict be between? The answer is that it will be a class war—as all revolutions are—this time between the working class and the bourgeois class of big capitalists, bankers and landlords.

 

Any attempt to interpret the coming American revolution without a class understanding of society will lead to errors and confusion. As is the case with all revolutionary upheavals, the conflict will not be defined by the poor fighting the poor, or even the poor fighting the mildly or moderately wealthy, but rather the poor fighting the ruling elite, i.e., the richest of the rich. It is the Trumps, Kochs, Clintons, Bushes, Musks, Bezoses and Murdochs who will be targeted by the working class, not middle-class gun collectors with survivalist training.

 

The article below addresses the revolutionary conflict brewing in the US.

 

USA: the giant begins to stir

The American labour movement has had a rough few decades. After peaking at 34.8 percent in 1954, just 10.5 percent of US workers are in a union today and only 7.2 percent of private sector workers. With corporate profits, capital accumulation, market indices, and wealth inequality reaching mind-boggling levels, many shortsighted individuals gave up the ghost and conceded defeat to the capitalists. The best we could do, in their view, was roll over and beg for a few crumbs off their table. But “the darkest hour is before the dawn.” The US working class has not gone down for the count—not by a long shot—and we’re coming for the crumbs, the pie, and the table.

 

Over the last three decades, there has been a significant decline in the annual number of strikes in the US, along with a steep fall in union membership. Over that same period, the wealth of the top 1 percent rose by $21 trillion, while the poorest 50 percent saw their net worth fall by $900 billion. The world’s richest 1 percent are on course to control as much as two-thirds of the world’s wealth by 2030, as they sit on trillions of uninvested dollars. Something had to give.

 

Understanding the critical role played by labour unions in the day-to-day struggle between labour and capital, Marxists have predicted the revival of American labour for many years. After hitting rock bottom a few years ago, there was only one way to go for the working class: up.

 

Strike activity often ticks upward once the economy stabilises, even if only modestly, as workers gain confidence that they aren’t about to lose their jobs if they rock the boat. With corporate profits at ridiculous levels—including $2.3 trillion in profits last year alone—American workers want what’s theirs and have started to move into action.

 

Read the rest of the article using the link below:

https://www.marxist.com/usa-the-giant-begins-to-stir.htm

11 days ago
2/7/09
Posts: 5726

As mentioned before antifa is/was a joke, but that movement has triggered a much more militant faction, or rather factions.

 

I definitely didn't live through it, but look at the history of leftist bombings in the 70's. We're yet to see that level of violence, so I'd say we're  a ways off of open armed conflicts.

 

although we could jump there any moment, look at the documentary about the Bundy's stand off, that could have easily set off a wave of insurrection from far right terrorists. And at any time we could start seeing a 1970's style bombing campaign from leftist terrorists. 

11 days ago
8/7/19
Posts: 14
Proteus The Invincible - 

There will with 100% certainty be another revolution in America’s near future, but whether or not it extends into a protracted civil war will depend on the decisiveness of the revolutionary leadership in striking down their enemies in the hour of conflict. But who will this conflict be between? The answer is that it will be a class war—as all revolutions are—this time between the working class and the bourgeois class of big capitalists, bankers and landlords.

 

Any attempt to interpret the coming American revolution without a class understanding of society will lead to errors and confusion. As is the case with all revolutionary upheavals, the conflict will not be defined by the poor fighting the poor, or even the poor fighting the mildly or moderately wealthy, but rather the poor fighting the ruling elite, i.e., the richest of the rich. It is the Trumps, Kochs, Clintons, Bushes, Musks, Bezoses and Murdochs who will be targeted by the working class, not middle-class gun collectors with survivalist training.

 

The article below addresses the revolutionary conflict brewing in the US.

 

USA: the giant begins to stir

The American labour movement has had a rough few decades. After peaking at 34.8 percent in 1954, just 10.5 percent of US workers are in a union today and only 7.2 percent of private sector workers. With corporate profits, capital accumulation, market indices, and wealth inequality reaching mind-boggling levels, many shortsighted individuals gave up the ghost and conceded defeat to the capitalists. The best we could do, in their view, was roll over and beg for a few crumbs off their table. But “the darkest hour is before the dawn.” The US working class has not gone down for the count—not by a long shot—and we’re coming for the crumbs, the pie, and the table.

 

Over the last three decades, there has been a significant decline in the annual number of strikes in the US, along with a steep fall in union membership. Over that same period, the wealth of the top 1 percent rose by $21 trillion, while the poorest 50 percent saw their net worth fall by $900 billion. The world’s richest 1 percent are on course to control as much as two-thirds of the world’s wealth by 2030, as they sit on trillions of uninvested dollars. Something had to give.

 

Understanding the critical role played by labour unions in the day-to-day struggle between labour and capital, Marxists have predicted the revival of American labour for many years. After hitting rock bottom a few years ago, there was only one way to go for the working class: up.

 

Strike activity often ticks upward once the economy stabilises, even if only modestly, as workers gain confidence that they aren’t about to lose their jobs if they rock the boat. With corporate profits at ridiculous levels—including $2.3 trillion in profits last year alone—American workers want what’s theirs and have started to move into action.

 

Read the rest of the article using the link below:

https://www.marxist.com/usa-the-giant-begins-to-stir.htm


You socialist/communist already killed 100 million, imprisoned 1 billion, and destroyed the wealth of every nation you took over.

A reasonable person may stop and think, hey this shit doesn't work, and we've become nothing but murderers and thieves.

But the fact is you people are either insane or just openly evil. You no longer have an excuse.

Le Shat
11 days ago
11/19/06
Posts: 15777
Honest Lee -
thedogofdogs -

I have been totally shocked by these people calling for a revolution.

I have legitimate skills. Around 12,000 rounds of ammunition, 23 rifles, 12 shotguns. 14 handguns, two reload stations.

Food supplies, water filters, etc.

 

These people have padlocks and such and such and masks.

 

There are thousands of guys like me in this country.

 

Does these leftists or whatever they want to be called, really think, they would be alive within 48 hours of what they seem to want to start happens, much less win?

Woah we got a badass here

YOURE GOD DAMN RIGHT WE DO!

11 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 46337
Vindell -
thedogofdogs -

I have been totally shocked by these people calling for a revolution.

I have legitimate skills. Around 12,000 rounds of ammunition, 23 rifles, 12 shotguns. 14 handguns, two reload stations.

Food supplies, water filters, etc.

 

These people have padlocks and such and such and masks.

 

There are thousands of guys like me in this country.

 

Does these leftists or whatever they want to be called, really think, they would be alive within 48 hours of what they seem to want to start happens, much less win?

I honestly do not understand how people still act like the far left are a bunch of nerds playing communist cosplay. They are already attacking. People on the right puff out their chest and say if they ever start attacking I will single handly stop them. THEY'RE ATTACKING ALREADY.

 

Dayton shooter Connor Betts may be antifa’s first mass killer

https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton-shooter-may-be-antifas-first-mass-killer/

 

Antifa Activist Shot Dead Trying to Attack ICE Detention Facility

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/07/15/antifa-activist-shot-dead-trying-to-attack-ice-detention-facility-n2550031

 

Violent Antifa Has Members Arming Themselves

https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/07/08/violent-antifa-members-arming/

 

 

Taking over the streets

 

and the list could go on. We are already in the beginning of the civil war. Look at media, the internet doxxing, the harassment, and so on.

It is not just on the streets but look at the harassment on social media. There are tons of examples but here is one. They are trying to get his children taken away and have him fired.

 

you mean hitting someone while they aren't looking and running away.    or getting next top people anD pepper spraying them.  , none will happen when there are guns oi nvolved

11 days ago
2/19/14
Posts: 5637
thedogofdogs -

I have been totally shocked by these people calling for a revolution.

I have legitimate skills. Around 12,000 rounds of ammunition, 23 rifles, 12 shotguns. 14 handguns, two reload stations.

Food supplies, water filters, etc.

 

These people have padlocks and such and such and masks.

 

There are thousands of guys like me in this country.

 

Does these leftists or whatever they want to be called, really think, they would be alive within 48 hours of what they seem to want to start happens, much less win?

Pm me your address, we'll see what kind of skills you have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jk, I just want to head your way when the shit hits the fan.

11 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 23673
I live just outside the city where I work and there are a substantial amount of former military vets that are in their late 20's to 30's driving around trucks with the punisher/merica flag on their windows. They also have glock decals. Many of them recognize me as a neutral ally due to women mutually not accepting our fighter lifestyles.

I think I'll be in the right place for ground zero.

11 days ago
11/9/17
Posts: 7859
thedogofdogs - 

I have been totally shocked by these people calling for a revolution.

I have legitimate skills. Around 12,000 rounds of ammunition, 23 rifles, 12 shotguns. 14 handguns, two reload stations.

Food supplies, water filters, etc.

 

These people have padlocks and such and such and masks.

 

There are thousands of guys like me in this country.

 

Does these leftists or whatever they want to be called, really think, they would be alive within 48 hours of what they seem to want to start happens, much less win?


The fact that you think "those people" don't have weapons you are kidding yourself. You sound like Americans thinking they can invade and country and take it over easily meanwhile little kids and untrained goat fuckers are sniping people and causing mayhem to the worlds "greatest" military force.

In other words, grow the fuck up and don't be so confident it's a wash!
11 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 23674
Also, remember when they blew up the credit card buildings at the end of fight club and celebrated it like it was the end of a war? Now, hackers are stealing personal data from the big companies.

What would Robert Paulson say to this?
11 days ago
4/3/08
Posts: 6911
eubie5 -
thedogofdogs -

I have been totally shocked by these people calling for a revolution.

I have legitimate skills. Around 12,000 rounds of ammunition, 23 rifles, 12 shotguns. 14 handguns, two reload stations.

Food supplies, water filters, etc.

 

These people have padlocks and such and such and masks.

 

There are thousands of guys like me in this country.

 

Does these leftists or whatever they want to be called, really think, they would be alive within 48 hours of what they seem to want to start happens, much less win?

Pm me your address, we'll see what kind of skills you have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jk, I just want to head your way when the shit hits the fan.

He’ll need some help. All those guns won’t shoot themselves, contrary to popular dumbass belief

11 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 32128

Joe said "I don't remember a time when the country has been so divided, I don't know whether it is the social media and because of the Russian influence on social media compounded with having Trump as a president compounded with you hear about this all the time in regards to income inequality, people feel disenfranchised, like the system has failed them".

The Russian influence and social media?

Joe should not speak about these topics.

10 days ago
4/3/08
Posts: 6912
PelosiesPanties -
thedogofdogs - 

I have been totally shocked by these people calling for a revolution.

I have legitimate skills. Around 12,000 rounds of ammunition, 23 rifles, 12 shotguns. 14 handguns, two reload stations.

Food supplies, water filters, etc.

 

These people have padlocks and such and such and masks.

 

There are thousands of guys like me in this country.

 

Does these leftists or whatever they want to be called, really think, they would be alive within 48 hours of what they seem to want to start happens, much less win?


The fact that you think "those people" don't have weapons you are kidding yourself. You sound like Americans thinking they can invade and country and take it over easily meanwhile little kids and untrained goat fuckers are sniping people and causing mayhem to the worlds "greatest" military force.

In other words, grow the fuck up and don't be so confident it's a wash!

Although I don’t believe in underestimating anybody, there is a massive difference between glorified police action and total war. All depends on how far you’re willing to go. 

10 days ago
4/24/12
Posts: 19557
BJ Penn Forever -

Joe said "I don't remember a time when the country has been so divided, I don't know whether it is the social media and because of the Russian influence on social media compounded with having Trump as a president compounded with you hear about this all the time in regards to income inequality, people feel disenfranchised, like the system has failed them".

The Russian influence and social media?

Joe should not speak about these topics.

what can he talk about? The prowess of Ronda's "great striking" and her being a threat to Cain? Even on stuff he should know 'something' about he does not. At least his intentions are good here.

10 days ago
4/24/12
Posts: 19558

yes u may have to pick a side, the globalists or the nationalists, the rest is a smoke screen.

10 days ago
6/5/03
Posts: 23229
Sean Thompson - Its funny how these Antifa pics the propper places for this bullshit why dont they go to the Real Racist parts of the country and do that shit. they out there fucking with defenseless people that want nothing more than to go on with thier day. Why don't they go to some Hells Angels bike rallies and try that shit, take that shit to south Carolina. Go to some of these trailer parks in florida and try that shit. Take your message to the real racists in America and see who well you bike locks do there

"Real racist"?  How about using a dictionary.  You misspelled "Real reasonable".

10 days ago
7/8/02
Posts: 7103
Moke - You know, I love Joe's shows, because well, it's Joe. But also, because it's 3 hours of open format with an interesting guest with no interruptions or commercials. And you just can't beat that.

That said, it never fails to irritate me...and as a stand-up performer, Joe should know this better than anyone...but for some reason he always fails to recognize it...

Many times his guests wait for the right moment, and then they start talking and you can plainly see they are setting up something. They are setting the table and about to lay out their big thought on a matter, and BOOM Joe will interrupt them RIGHT at the pause and at the moment they were about to lay out their big whammy.

And worse, Joe will not even follow what they were about to say. He takes off into another direction entirely. And then you can see the guest politely sit there quietly, swallowing what they were about to express, and trying to figure out if there's another way and another chance they'll get to say it.

It happened again above, when the Andy says, "Let's pump the brakes homeboy..." That was the setup, and he was about to lay something out, but Joe interrupts and starts talking about how we need comradery and need to be nice...

Drives me crazy. He’ll have an MMA guy in from the early days and cut off his interesting story with “what about MMA on a basketball court?”

10 days ago
11/16/17
Posts: 5645
MrColdCock -
Moke - You know, I love Joe's shows, because well, it's Joe. But also, because it's 3 hours of open format with an interesting guest with no interruptions or commercials. And you just can't beat that.

That said, it never fails to irritate me...and as a stand-up performer, Joe should know this better than anyone...but for some reason he always fails to recognize it...

Many times his guests wait for the right moment, and then they start talking and you can plainly see they are setting up something. They are setting the table and about to lay out their big thought on a matter, and BOOM Joe will interrupt them RIGHT at the pause and at the moment they were about to lay out their big whammy.

And worse, Joe will not even follow what they were about to say. He takes off into another direction entirely. And then you can see the guest politely sit there quietly, swallowing what they were about to express, and trying to figure out if there's another way and another chance they'll get to say it.

It happened again above, when the Andy says, "Let's pump the brakes homeboy..." That was the setup, and he was about to lay something out, but Joe interrupts and starts talking about how we need comradery and need to be nice...

Drives me crazy. He’ll have an MMA guy in from the early days and cut off his interesting story with “what about MMA on a basketball court?”

I only listen to Rogan now when it's a great quest.

Him not going live and chopping edits is bullshit.

10 days ago
8/7/19
Posts: 27
PelosiesPanties - 
thedogofdogs - 

I have been totally shocked by these people calling for a revolution.

I have legitimate skills. Around 12,000 rounds of ammunition, 23 rifles, 12 shotguns. 14 handguns, two reload stations.

Food supplies, water filters, etc.

 

These people have padlocks and such and such and masks.

 

There are thousands of guys like me in this country.

 

Does these leftists or whatever they want to be called, really think, they would be alive within 48 hours of what they seem to want to start happens, much less win?


The fact that you think "those people" don't have weapons you are kidding yourself. You sound like Americans thinking they can invade and country and take it over easily meanwhile little kids and untrained goat fuckers are sniping people and causing mayhem to the worlds "greatest" military force.

In other words, grow the fuck up and don't be so confident it's a wash!

The only reason the military struggles with these gorilla tactics is because we are trying to minimize casualties. If we went in full on and decimated enemy cities, with no regard to women and children, then no one would stand a chance.

Le Shat
10 days ago
10/4/18
Posts: 2255
The left in this country are weak. They are nothing to be concerned with in regards to a "revolution". Shut the internet and starbucks down and bam, they are crippled and useless. Youll find them in a fetal position in their moms basement.
10 days ago
3/13/17
Posts: 7959
thedogofdogs - 

I have been totally shocked by these people calling for a revolution.

I have legitimate skills. Around 12,000 rounds of ammunition, 23 rifles, 12 shotguns. 14 handguns, two reload stations.

Food supplies, water filters, etc.

 

These people have padlocks and such and such and masks.

 

There are thousands of guys like me in this country.

 

Does these leftists or whatever they want to be called, really think, they would be alive within 48 hours of what they seem to want to start happens, much less win?


LEGITIMATE SKILLS.

 

LOL!!!

 

Go hide in your bunker because some people with purple hair are protesting please.

10 days ago
3/13/17
Posts: 7960
Andersons'sPiece - 
MrShush -
thedogofdogs -

I have been totally shocked by these people calling for a revolution.

I have legitimate skills. Around 12,000 rounds of ammunition, 23 rifles, 12 shotguns. 14 handguns, two reload stations.

Food supplies, water filters, etc.

 

These people have padlocks and such and such and masks.

 

There are thousands of guys like me in this country.

 

Does these leftists or whatever they want to be called, really think, they would be alive within 48 hours of what they seem to want to start happens, much less win?

Crazy people never comprehend that they are crazy.  The civil war you long for, the massive event that would provide the platform for you to actually matter in the world, is not coming.  It’s fun to fanfic life, especially when you are utterly delusional.  Normal people pine away for a winning lottery ticket or world peace.  You want war with your own countrymen.  

There is nothing wrong with you.

Exactly. Fat white guys dreaming about walking the Earth with muh guns. 


FACTS!!!!!!

10 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 113620
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. - 
Vindell -
thedogofdogs -

I have been totally shocked by these people calling for a revolution.

I have legitimate skills. Around 12,000 rounds of ammunition, 23 rifles, 12 shotguns. 14 handguns, two reload stations.

Food supplies, water filters, etc.

 

These people have padlocks and such and such and masks.

 

There are thousands of guys like me in this country.

 

Does these leftists or whatever they want to be called, really think, they would be alive within 48 hours of what they seem to want to start happens, much less win?

I honestly do not understand how people still act like the far left are a bunch of nerds playing communist cosplay. They are already attacking. People on the right puff out their chest and say if they ever start attacking I will single handly stop them. THEY'RE ATTACKING ALREADY.

 

Dayton shooter Connor Betts may be antifa’s first mass killer

https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton-shooter-may-be-antifas-first-mass-killer/

 

Antifa Activist Shot Dead Trying to Attack ICE Detention Facility

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/07/15/antifa-activist-shot-dead-trying-to-attack-ice-detention-facility-n2550031

 

Violent Antifa Has Members Arming Themselves

https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/07/08/violent-antifa-members-arming/

 

 

Taking over the streets

 

and the list could go on. We are already in the beginning of the civil war. Look at media, the internet doxxing, the harassment, and so on.

It is not just on the streets but look at the harassment on social media. There are tons of examples but here is one. They are trying to get his children taken away and have him fired.

 

you mean hitting someone while they aren't looking and running away.    or getting next top people anD pepper spraying them.  , none will happen when there are guns oi nvolved


This.

It's like they are attacking armed resistance.

10 days ago
3/9/13
Posts: 3575

Reminder that the world is a better place now than it ever has been. Less murder, rape and crime in general. 

 

There is no looming civil war. No matter how much purple haired lesbos or fat fuck 50 year old white guys want it to happen.

10 days ago
8/29/08
Posts: 5142

The left used to be put into its place when we were kids now it's labeled bullying. 

10 days ago
8/7/19
Posts: 28
Pedro Navaja - 
thedogofdogs - 

I have been totally shocked by these people calling for a revolution.

I have legitimate skills. Around 12,000 rounds of ammunition, 23 rifles, 12 shotguns. 14 handguns, two reload stations.

Food supplies, water filters, etc.

 

These people have padlocks and such and such and masks.

 

There are thousands of guys like me in this country.

 

Does these leftists or whatever they want to be called, really think, they would be alive within 48 hours of what they seem to want to start happens, much less win?


LEGITIMATE SKILLS.

 

LOL!!!

 

Go hide in your bunker because some people with purple hair are protesting please.


You mean communists attacking people in the streets?

LOL, have you relocated to Venezuela yet so that you can enjoy your socialist rat burger and sewer water soup?

Le Shat