Stopped listening to Joe awhile ago. I will tune in if it’s a guest I wanna hear talk, like recently with Elon Musk. Elon is an ACTUALLY smart guy, Joe is inquisitive for sure, but just isn’t cerebral enough to grasp some of the concepts he’s toting. I didn’t watch the episode but in listening, it almost felt like Musk was getting annoyed by some of the dumb things Joe was saying/asking. A lot of which, by the way, could have been avoided had he just shut up after asking a question and letting EM finish before interrupting.
joe is my favorite MMA commentator, by far, due to his actual knowledge of at least one aspect, but as a podcaster, I quickly tired of him.