UnderGround Forums Luke Thomas accuses Helwani of shill journalism!

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EDIT!

 

UPDATE: Luke is going to double down on Monday's Morning Kombat with Brian Campbell!

 

 

 

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Trouble in paradise? I thought these guys used to be attached at the hip!

 

Luke holds Ariel to task for asking softball questions to his favorite fighters - most explicity the new Conor interview. He said it was irresponsible for Ariel to not mention the sexual assault investigation to Conor & the rest of the interview was weak from a journalism standoint.

 

 

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Luke is a snake in the grass and it's not surprising he's turning on one of the main people who helped him get where he is. Not that he's wrong. But he's completely hypocritical. What tough questions has he asked to Khabib or Masvidal?
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Ariel responds:

 

 

24 days ago
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FatBuddha - Luke is a snake in the grass and it's not surprising he's turning on one of the main people who helped him get where he is. Not that he's wrong. But he's completely hypocritical. What tough questions has he asked to Khabib or Masvidal?

Wow. Not even that goofy neckbeard couldn't stop you from finding his double chin.
24 days ago
10/8/07
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What's funny is that I can almost guarantee Luke wouldn't ask Conor about the sexual assault shit either. If you don't have any proof that it was Conor outside of a dodgy NYT article then why as a respectable journalist would you bring it up?

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Eugene S. Robinson (Bloody Elbow reporter)

breaks down the Helwani vs LT feud:

 

24 days ago
4/17/17
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Ariel hasnt been a journalist for a long while now.
24 days ago
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Ariel openly admitted he was a shill in the past and cried about how it tore him up at night.
24 days ago
10/9/10
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I mean Luke’s not wrong 

Plus he was highly respectful of MMA journalists in general and said you have to cater to fighters in order to avoid being black balled 

He even said he’s been guilty of this in the past, and it’s why he doesn’t consider himself a journalist 

If you listen to the entire thing, he appears to be saying that MMA journalism as a whole is structured around fighters being sensitive and that it’s hard to strike a balance between being honest and being accommodating. 

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MasterofMartialArts -

I mean Luke’s not wrong 

Plus he was highly respectful of MMA journalists in general and said you have to cater to fighters in order to avoid being black balled 

He even said he’s been guilty of this in the past, and it’s why he doesn’t consider himself a journalist 

If you listen to the entire thing, he appears to be saying that MMA journalism as a whole is structured around fighters being sensitive and that it’s hard to strike a balance between being honest and being accommodating. 

Luke's become more diplomatic over the years. He evolved in that sense. But this is still a shot across the bow - however subtle and passive-aggressive.

24 days ago
3/10/12
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Six minutes into the interview and Ariel has been asking Conor non-stop questions about his bad behavior outside of the cage. Am I missing something here?

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The Destroyer88 - 

What's funny is that I can almost guarantee Luke wouldn't ask Conor about the sexual assault shit either. If you don't have any proof that it was Conor outside of a dodgy NYT article then why as a respectable journalist would you bring it up?


What's dodgy about the NY Times article?

A real journalist would say: "You may be aware that the NY Times reported that...." If it's not true it's an easy denial.
24 days ago
3/6/07
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Luke has never taken a class in journalism. 

 

He has zero ground to speak on. Syracuse University would laugh at him and his resume. 

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when does luke ever ask tough questions 

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Ariel earned his fucking stripes and is the man.  Fuck the haters.

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jkd4200 -

Luke has never taken a class in journalism. 

 

He has zero ground to speak on. Syracuse University would laugh at him and his resume. 

He has said that first statement many many times

Also he has said he’s not a journalist... this isn’t the first time he’s uttered those words 

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MasterofMartialArts -
jkd4200 -

Luke has never taken a class in journalism. 

 

He has zero ground to speak on. Syracuse University would laugh at him and his resume. 

He has said that first statement many many times

Also he has said he’s not a journalist... this isn’t the first time he’s uttered those words 

“ I’m not a journalist BUT.....”

 

” I did stay at a holiday inn last night” 

 

you can throw that blanket statement out anytime and then give an opinion with no consequences. 

 

Fuck off Luke. 

24 days ago
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Is Luke just figuring this out now? Says a lot about his investigative skills if so.
24 days ago
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inf0 - Is Luke just figuring this out now? Says a lot about his investigative skills if so.

Nah, but Ariel has done something people are talking about with that interview, so it is prime time for Luke to try and piggy-back on that popularity. He is king douche in a land of douches.

24 days ago
8/4/07
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Conor seems almost jealous/envious of others in the spotlight. Hopefully he'll be legitimately humbled by his shortcomings. When/if regains some of his past successes I wonder if this same attitude will remain? 

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jkd4200 -

Luke has never taken a class in journalism. 

 

He has zero ground to speak on. Syracuse University would laugh at him and his resume. 

Journalism school LMFAO

24 days ago
8/4/07
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In Ariels defense he spent the 1st 8 minutes of the interview discussing Conor's fuck ups. What does Luke want him to do? Spend 15 or 20 minutes hammering him on the same topic?

 

OK, the alleged sexual assault didn't get brought up. That was probably discussed and worked out pre-interview for the exact reasons Luke mentioned. Because of laws in Ireland. 

24 days ago
8/3/19
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chilz -

In Ariels defense he spent the 1st 8 minutes of the interview discussing Conor's fuck ups. What does Luke want him to do? Spend 15 or 20 minutes hammering him on the same topic?

 

OK, the alleged sexual assault didn't get brought up. That was probably discussed and worked out pre-interview for the exact reasons Luke mentioned. Because of laws in Ireland. 

There's also the problem that it was an internet rumour printed by a rag of a newspaper.

24 days ago
8/10/18
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chilz -

In Ariels defense he spent the 1st 8 minutes of the interview discussing Conor's fuck ups. What does Luke want him to do? Spend 15 or 20 minutes hammering him on the same topic?

 

OK, the alleged sexual assault didn't get brought up. That was probably discussed and worked out pre-interview for the exact reasons Luke mentioned. Because of laws in Ireland. 

tony ferguson, they spend 40 sec on tony ferguson, conor didnt want to talk about it, but ariel should insist and asked why he refuses to fight tony, of course ariel didnt want to heart conor's feeling, ariel should have asked conor if he thinks that tony with a 12 win streaks or him who didn't win since 2017, who should get the title shot.

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Luke is the sensitive one. He has zero ability to handle criticism thrown his way. He’s pretty pathetic if truth be told.