Fake Pie -
I'm an Eagles fan who loves dogs. When they picked him up right outta jail, I was very conflicted. These are the things I have to remind myself:
He was sentenced to the longest jail sentence ever for that charge.
He served his time. 2 years in Leavenworth ain't easy. He shouldn't be able to work now?
He is now and has been since he was released, the biggest source of help against dog fighting. Yes obviously he had to do it but it's still true. He also did tons of charity work and speaking engagements in the communities that actually have dog fighting. Almost all done without news cameras.
Thats spreading awareness. Vick has been responsible for putting so many more eyeballs on the dogfighting issue and except for those poor 6-8 dogs that were killed, in a weird way Vick was the best thing to ever happen to the anti-dogfighting issue. Laws have been made, sentencing guidelines changed, more funding, etc. Dont think 2 years in jail was long enough for what he did? Ok, but at the time that was the max judges could give. Now the penalties are much stiffer all because of the spotlight Vick put on the issue.
Since he got out, he has caused zero problems and paid back his fines in whole.
He is still a piece of shit human for what he did. But he did the time and comlplied with everything asked of him. Actually went above and beyond. He lost 2 years at his absolute physical prime while he was the highest paid player in the league. Again, he was a piece of shit. But he paid a big price. And if he was the guy selling popcorn, nobody would give a fuck if he just got out of jail. He did his time and was ready to work.
I feel like I did a bad job explaining all this. Hopefully it makes some kind of sense.
"He shouldn't be able to work now?"
Literally no one is saying that. Is there anything besides not being able to work and being able to make millions working first for an NFL team and now in sports media?
" the biggest source of help against dog fighting"
Why do people say this? How are you quantifying it?
" in a weird way Vick was the best thing to ever happen to the anti-dogfighting issue."
Sure and the Titanic put a spotlight on boat safety reforms.
"I feel like I did a bad job explaining all this. Hopefully it makes some kind of sense. "
It does make sense. My responses are not trying to say you are wrong, just giving my perspective.
"Literally no one is saying that. Is there anything besides not being able to work and being able to make millions working first for an NFL team and now in sports media?"
Are we talking about the same thing? Because I'm talking about 2009 when people were literally saying that, yes. I saw it firsthand in Philly. Plenty of people were saying that, in terms of playing football. And yeah, there are plenty of other outcomes that could have happened. But we left it up to the owners, and more than a few were willing to hire Vick.
"Why do people say this? How are you quantifying it?"
I say this because I'm Parroting what was on the local news at that time. I trust Jim Gardner. I don't know but I'm guessing they quantified thru comparing the amount of donations coming in and maybe also by the amount of coverage compared to before. Protests/marches and new charities popping up. I guess I could google all this, but I'm just being honest. Also, just because I took the news' word for it, doesn't mean they were wrong.
And I know what you were going for, but I feel like you're proving my point. The Titanic did indeed put the spotlight on cruise ship safety. It actually created reform. Post Titanic, every cruise ship was required to sail with enough lifeboats for every passenger on board. Which the Titanic didn't, and resulted in many unnecessary deaths. I realize you were being sarcastic but I thought it was actually a good example.