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8/8/20 12:03 PM
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8/8/20 12:04 PM
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Don't worry, just a bad apple in that PD. 

8/8/20 12:04 PM
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When no one is around you, say baby I love you if you ain't running game.
8/8/20 12:05 PM
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Video in case anyone wants to see it. Graphic warning of course

8/8/20 12:09 PM
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I don’t know. He looks white to me. 

8/8/20 12:09 PM
2/4/17
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Comes with the territory no? Just another day in "the greatest country in the world"

8/8/20 12:10 PM
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Ryan Whitaker of Arizona was shot and killed by Phoenix police after a neighbor called in a noise complaint. Bodycam footage showed that he appeared to be kneeling to put down his gun just before he was shot multiple times. Now his family is looking for answers.

Here’s what you need to know.

1. Whitaker Was Shot Within Seconds of Opening the Door

Whitaker, 40, of Ahwatukee, Arizona was shot and killed on May 21, AZ Central reported. He was holding his 9mm handgun in his right hand when he answered the late-night knock on his door, because he had heard a similar late-night knock earlier that week.

 

Officer Jeff Cooke shot him in the back at least twice within seconds of Whitaker opening the door, AZ Central reported. Officer John Ferragamo was with him, but did not shoot. The officers were standing on either side of the door and couldn’t be seen through a peephole although they did announce themselves when they knocked, AZ Central reported.

 

Whitaker’s brother Steven said his brother couldn’t hear the officers announce who they were because of the loud music, AZ Family reported.

The video does not show the officers rendering aid after Whitaker was shot. You can see one officer with his gun on Whitaker as he lies on the ground, while the other officer talks to Whitaker’s friend, telling her that she can’t go to Whitaker and see if he is OK.

Police took 55 days to release the bodycam footage, ABC 15 reported.

2. Whitaker Was Getting on His Knees When He Was Shot

Whitaker had his gun in his hand when he opened the door and a bright light was immediately shined in his eyes, AZ Central reported.

One officer yelled “hands!” and the video bodycam videos show Whitaker getting on his knees, going down to the ground, right before he was shot.

Family lawyer Matthew Cunningham told AZ Central that Whitaker could be seen starting to put his gun down right before he was shot. When Nees asked why he was shot, Cooke said: “He pulled a gun on us, ma’am.”

Whitaker never fired his weapon, AZ Central reported. The Phoenix Police Department said Cooke fired his weapon because he believed his life was in danger, ABC 15 reported. The video shows Whitaker quickly complying with commands. The Phoenix Police’s official press release on May 22 said that Whitaker was “moving toward one of the officers, armed with a gun.”

3. One Officer Said on the Video that He Knew the Caller Was Saying ‘Yes’ to Questions Just to Get Them to Arrive Faster

A bodycam video revealed that police were responding to a noise complaint from an upstairs neighbor, AZ Central reported. The caller said people were screaming and then, in a second call, said it had escalated into a fight. Police said after the shooting that they were responding to an emergency domestic violence call.

Cunningham told AZ Central that police knew the call was exaggerated because the caller told 911: “It could be physical. I could say yeah if that makes anybody hurry on up. Get anybody here faster.”

Before they knocked on the door, Ferragamo made a statement about the “helpful” information that the caller had given, acknowledging that the caller simply said “yes” to everything in order to get the police to arrive faster, AZ Central reported. There were no sounds of fighting on the other side of the door when they arrived.

In the unedited bodycam video, Nees said she and Whitaker were making salsa and playing Crash Bandicoot on Playstation, yelling because of the game.

4. An Online Petition Seeks to Have the Officers Arrested

Whitaker’s family said in a news conference that they want the officers fired and Cooke charged with murder, Fox 10 reported. The family has said that they want the dispatch officer fired too, along with charges filed against the person who called 911.

A petition on Change.org has more than 9,400 signatures as of the time of publication and seeks to have booth Cooke and Ferragamo arrested and charged with murder.

 

AZ Family reported that during a press conference, Whitaker’s brother Steven said: “My brother had no idea police were on the other side of that door – none whatsoever. He was pro law enforcement – 100%.”

 

More here: 

Ryan Whitaker: Arizona Man Shot & Killed By Police After Noise Complaint

8/8/20 12:26 PM
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Pesci's Pen -

I don’t know. He looks white to me. 

He's albino, along with all his siblings and his girlfriend. The cops too

8/8/20 12:42 PM
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There's this cool thing on most doors

 

 

8/8/20 12:50 PM
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Can't tell what happened since the video is blurred to all shit, but it looks like he is putting his arm out to surrender.
8/8/20 12:56 PM
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TzTinkle - Can't tell what happened since the video is blurred to all shit, but it looks like he is putting his arm out to surrender.

Less blurred video here.

https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gone-rogue/watch-phoenix-cops-kill-man-after-responding-to-noise-complaint-over-video-game-AsvFt-AHpkeQlcgNj5qiTA

Edited: 8/8/20 6:12 PM
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EDIT

 

 

after watching from the other officers perspective I changed my mind. 
 

bad shot, man was complying 

8/8/20 1:02 PM
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CaptainWoody - 

There's this cool thing on most doors

 

 


The police stood off to the side so he couldn't see them through the peephole, then shined a flashlight in his eyes when the door opened. He never even had a chance to comply.

8/8/20 1:02 PM
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stevezur - 
TzTinkle - Can't tell what happened since the video is blurred to all shit, but it looks like he is putting his arm out to surrender.

Less blurred video here.

https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gone-rogue/watch-phoenix-cops-kill-man-after-responding-to-noise-complaint-over-video-game-AsvFt-AHpkeQlcgNj5qiTA


The video from the cop who shot him looks horrible, you can clearly see him putting the gun down and surrendering.
8/8/20 1:07 PM
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darkm - 

Justified.

 

why would someone come out with a gun from someone knocking on door. 
 

you keep the gun behind the door and bring it up if there's a threat. 
 

 

he did a dumb thing and died for it. 


You didn't watch one second of that video. How does that boot taste
8/8/20 1:07 PM
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CaptainWoody - 

There's this cool thing on most doors

 

 


another idiot thst didn't watch one second of thst video
8/8/20 1:08 PM
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Police didnt annouce themselves?

8/8/20 1:08 PM
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non story, he's caucasian
8/8/20 1:10 PM
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Crazy Larry -

Don't worry, just a bad apple in that PD. 

So no outrage? 

8/8/20 1:14 PM
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darkm -

Justified.

 

why would someone come out with a gun from someone knocking on door. 
 

you keep the gun behind the door and bring it up if there's a threat. 
 

 

he did a dumb thing and died for it. 

This.

 

The police knocked on the door and identified themselves.

 

He obviously heard them because he proceeded to open the door.

 

Should not have opened the door with a handgun.

 

If you feel scared then don't open the door. If you are confused at who is knocking on your door than ask "who is it?"

 

Sad that he died. But the cops were justified.

8/8/20 1:15 PM
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darkm -

Justified.

 

why would someone come out with a gun from someone knocking on door. 
 

you keep the gun behind the door and bring it up if there's a threat. 
 

 

he did a dumb thing and died for it. 

That’s the dumbest take on this so far.

He’s well within his rights to answer the door with a gun in hand when someone is unexpectedly knocking on the door at night. He didn’t have it raised = No threat. In fact he was already getting on his knees raising his hands when they started shooting. 
Im all for giving cops the benefit of doubt when they feel they have to shoot to protect themselves or others but this isn’t that kind of situation. That guy didn’t deserve to die. He’s not some asshole resisting arrest.

Thats fucked up.

8/8/20 1:18 PM
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I Hate the left, but this one was a bad shoot.  He was submissive once he realized they were cops.  

His neighbor got him killed.  There's a lot more to the story leading up to the shooting.

8/8/20 1:18 PM
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camal -
darkm -

Justified.

 

why would someone come out with a gun from someone knocking on door. 
 

you keep the gun behind the door and bring it up if there's a threat. 
 

 

he did a dumb thing and died for it. 

This.

 

The police knocked on the door and identified themselves.

 

He obviously heard them because he proceeded to open the door.

 

Should not have opened the door with a handgun.

 

If you feel scared then don't open the door. If you are confused at who is knocking on your door than ask "who is it?"

 

Sad that he died. But the cops were justified.

It’s not like he started shooting first. He was complying with them when they shot him.

Bad shoot for sure. 

8/8/20 1:19 PM
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camal -
darkm -

Justified.

 

why would someone come out with a gun from someone knocking on door. 
 

you keep the gun behind the door and bring it up if there's a threat. 
 

 

he did a dumb thing and died for it. 

This.

 

The police knocked on the door and identified themselves.

 

He obviously heard them because he proceeded to open the door.

 

Should not have opened the door with a handgun.

 

If you feel scared then don't open the door. If you are confused at who is knocking on your door than ask "who is it?"

 

Sad that he died. But the cops were justified.

They knocked on his door and said “Phoenix police”.

You say “he obviously heard them”. Maybe he heard the door knock, its very doubtful he answered the door with his gun if he heard them say it was the police.

But like I said in the previous post. He was complying and not threatening them with the gun in any way. Not a justifiable shooting.

8/8/20 1:20 PM
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Other than a nice little paid vacation, they'll get off scott free. Mark my words.