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10/31/19 11:39 PM
9/30/09
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Just ordered some Opus X Lost City, Tabak Dulce Gordito and Deadwood's Fat Bottom Betty Gordito. (I hate the DE uses Gordito, instead of Gordo) but whatever. 

11/1/19 12:46 AM
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Gave the cold & snow the finger long enough to enjoy this.
11/2/19 8:00 PM
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11/2/19 8:14 PM
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Submissable -


Thought you would have burned through those RASS's by now. Good choice though.

11/2/19 8:38 PM
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rmenergy -
Submissable -


Thought you would have burned through those RASS's by now. Good choice though.

Ha! I'm close. I think I have maybe 8 left. I did put a few away to age a little though. 

11/3/19 5:28 PM
2/6/12
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Espinosa laranja today. I'll need to buy some more of these, great brand.

11/10/19 11:30 PM
6/18/10
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Leaf by Oscar Maduro Lancero & a Bowmore 15

 

11/17/19 3:36 PM
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My wife knows that I am a little under the weather today. I promised her that I would only smoke one stick today.
11/17/19 3:52 PM
6/18/10
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chadk -


My wife knows that I am a little under the weather today. I promised her that I would only smoke one stick today.

If you're sick it's wasteful don't ya think? You won't be able to taste it well & have a chance of prolonging being sick. 
 

either way, enjoy what you can while you can  

11/17/19 3:58 PM
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Yeah, more headache & lethargy than coughing & congestion. Calculated risk. Will own it if it bites me in the ass.

11/17/19 4:15 PM
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chadk -

Yeah, more headache & lethargy than coughing & congestion. Calculated risk. Will own it if it bites me in the ass.

Sounds more like a hangover;)

poor a whiskey in that coke, lite up the stick & let the recovery begin 

11/17/19 10:56 PM
6/18/10
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Tatuaje Skinny Monster tonight:

11/18/19 9:02 PM
9/30/09
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Are you guys familiar with Bullet Branch on Facebook? He does raffles for cigars. I just won a box deadwood Fat Bottom Betty Gorditos. 
   Very fair guy. I've been on a bit of a streak lately.

   I spent $20 for 5 spots in a raffle of 30 participants, and won.

  Great Facebook group and great group of guys to talk about sticks with. 

11/18/19 9:48 PM
6/18/10
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BostonCharm -

Are you guys familiar with Bullet Branch on Facebook? He does raffles for cigars. I just won a box deadwood Fat Bottom Betty Gorditos. 
   Very fair guy. I've been on a bit of a streak lately.

   I spent $20 for 5 spots in a raffle of 30 participants, and won.

  Great Facebook group and great group of guys to talk about sticks with. 

Nah. No FB, or any social media other than here & an audio forum. 

11/26/19 11:14 AM
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11/26/19 9:44 PM
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11/26/19 9:49 PM
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man winter in Canada sucks. my little collection is calling to me, but it's just too damn cold.
11/29/19 8:33 PM
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Smoking fancy things
12/6/19 2:20 PM
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Just placed my order for one of the last two 10pks of Ezra Zion 2019 Ugly Christmas Sweater. Have high hopes for this one. The 2016 was awesome. 

12/6/19 7:24 PM
6/29/05
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rmenergy -

Just placed my order for one of the last two 10pks of Ezra Zion 2019 Ugly Christmas Sweater. Have high hopes for this one. The 2016 was awesome. 

Where'd you order it from? 

12/6/19 7:45 PM
6/18/10
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WillyMaunawili -
rmenergy -

Just placed my order for one of the last two 10pks of Ezra Zion 2019 Ugly Christmas Sweater. Have high hopes for this one. The 2016 was awesome. 

Where'd you order it from? 

https://www.ezrazionstore.com/

 

EZ store. 

12/6/19 7:57 PM
6/29/05
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rfterminator - Yes, it is ultimately the athlete's responsibility to know and comply with the rules. So for those who believe that is the end of the story, that there are never extenuating circumstances worth considering by the public to form a more nuanced opinion, there's no need to read this thread as you have already reached your conclusion.

For all the rest, who understand that the details of a story matter in determining how severe an infraction may have been committed and thus the appropriate consequence, please consider the following:

1. Chael did not have a good option to wait indefinitely before fighting. Remember, he was in the middle of a TUF season waiting to fight with Wanderlei. This put pressure on him to NOT simply bow out and leave Wanderlei, the public, and the UFC hanging on the fight which is built up over an entire TUF season.

2. To transition off TRT once it was made illegal, he did a 50-day course of recommended medications (Clomid, anastrazole, hCG) to jump-start his natural testosterone production. This concluded on May 1st.

3. On May 10th, he tested himself through a conventional lab, and was negative for the medications used to bridge off TRT. Note that on May 10th, he was still not licensed to fight!

4. On May 13th, he was licensed to fight. This was done presumably with clear conscience, as Chael had just tested negative for the medications which are arguably banned once you have been licensed for a fight.

5. On May 26th, Chael received random test by USADA, which is gold-standard for drug testing, employing far more sensitive testing that conventional lab testing. Hence, Chael was found positive for the bridging medications for which he had tested negative on the 10th of May.

Kevin Iole states that the above is all irrelevant, doesn't matter. But in fact, Chael took the medications while he was not licensed to fight, and confirmed that they were cleared from his system before he became licensed!

Obviously, Kevin has a bias against Chael. So do many others, as is evident in their response to this story.


If Kevin's stance means he has an anti-Chael bias, your position on the matter can just as easily be seen as a pro-Chael bias.

The results Chael got from a lab which had lower standards than USADA and less accurate testing is irrelevant, since the official test he took showed that the banned substances were still in his system. Whatever tests Chael took on his own have zero bearing on the results of the official test the commission made him take.

If someone uses a home drug testing kit and pisses clean but fails a drug test administered by a prospective employer, whatever "confirmation" they got from testing themselves is not relevant.

Also, regardless of whether or not he was licensed when taking the banned drugs, they were still active in his system after he was licensed and subsequently tested. You don't get a pass for using a banned substance because you started before getting a license.

12/6/19 9:48 PM
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WillyMaunawili -
rmenergy -
WillyMaunawili -
rmenergy -

Just placed my order for one of the last two 10pks of Ezra Zion 2019 Ugly Christmas Sweater. Have high hopes for this one. The 2016 was awesome. 

Where'd you order it from? 

https://www.ezrazionstore.com/

 

EZ store. 

They're back ordered, I was thinking maybe you had a secret spot lol

I'll post when they come in. I've done trades with a few of the other guys on here, if you want to try them pm me. We can work out a swap. 

12/9/19 10:18 PM
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EZ's are in. Decided to put em next to the 2016 Uglies:


12/9/19 11:07 PM
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Nice!

 

Appreciare the offer brother, but I was looking at picking up some 5-packs for Christmas gifts.

 

Enjoy!