OtherGround Forums RIP NYC. 01/01/20 these are no longer crimes

16 days ago
6/3/03
Posts: 103128

Ok, the thread title isn’t entirely accurate but check this shit out:

 

RIP NYC. 

NY Prison reform, here is the list of offenses that are now summons and release with out bail:

CRIMES FOR WHICH A DEFENDANT MUST BE RELEASED FROM CUSTODY, WITHOUT BAIL, AFTER JANUARY 1, 2020 

• Burglary in the second degree (residential burglary)
• Burglary in the third degree
• Robbery in the second degree (aided by another person)
• Robbery in the third degree
• Manslaughter in the second degree
• Criminally negligent homicide
• Aggravated vehicular homicide
• Vehicular manslaughter in the first and second degrees
• Assault in the third degree
• Aggravated vehicular assault
• Aggravated assault upon a person less than eleven years old
• Vehicular assault in the first and second degrees
• Criminal possession of a weapon on school grounds
• Criminal possession of a firearm
• Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree
• Criminal sale of a firearm to a minor
• Criminal possession of a controlled substance in the first and second degrees
• Criminal sale of a controlled substance in the first and second degrees
• Criminal sale of a controlled substance in or near school grounds
• Use of a child to commit a controlled substance offense
• Criminal sale of a controlled substance to a child
• Patronizing a person for prostitution in a school zone
• Promoting an obscene sexual performance by a child
• Possessing an obscene sexual performance by a child
• Promoting a sexual performance by a child
• Failure to register as a sex offender
• Bribery in the first degree
• Bribe giving for public office
• Bribe receiving in the first degree
• Arson in the third and fourth degrees
• Grand larceny in the first, second, third, and fourth degrees
• Aggravated cruelty to animals
• Overdriving, torturing and injuring animals
• Failure to provide proper sustenance to animals
• Animal fighting
• Unlawful imprisonment in the first degree
• Coercion in the first degree
• Criminal solicitation in the first degree
• Criminal facilitation in the first degree
• Money laundering in support of terrorism in the third and fourth degrees
• Making a terroristic threat
• Obstructing governmental administration in the first and second degree
• Obstructing governmental administration by means of a self-defense spray device
• Promoting prison contraband in the first and second degrees
• Resisting arrest
• Hindering prosecution
• Tampering with a juror
• Tampering with physical evidence
• Aggravated harassment in the first degree
• Directing a laser at an aircraft in the first degree
• Enterprise corruption
• Money laundering in the first degree

16 days ago
3/20/12
Posts: 33953

wtf

16 days ago
11/17/10
Posts: 50498

ask the NY/NYC lawmakers why they did this

and the common answer is

"because non white, minorities are didproportionately affected by these crimes"

 

equity of outcome bullshit

16 days ago
9/27/07
Posts: 6108

This can't be real 

16 days ago
12/29/09
Posts: 28282

Why? 

16 days ago
12/15/11
Posts: 27380

Wow...just treat children however you want i take it.

16 days ago
12/29/09
Posts: 28283

All the sex offenders are moving to NY ASAP

16 days ago
10/2/12
Posts: 11532

California politicians just got told to hold their beers by New York. Shit hole status here we come!!!!!!

16 days ago
5/10/08
Posts: 49807
rubbermonkey - 

This can't be real 


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16 days ago
9/25/09
Posts: 9161

Interesting.

16 days ago
8/1/13
Posts: 22076

LOL

16 days ago
6/3/03
Posts: 103129

Source is here:

 

https://nicolemalliotakis.com/bail/

16 days ago
4/6/12
Posts: 10359

Wow. Just fucking wowq

16 days ago
8/13/02
Posts: 12928
Awesome, I fully support this decision, and hope to see it applied more widely in the near future. Cash bail is bullshit, and should be entirely abolished. If someone is dangerous or likely to flee justice, hold them in jail until their trial. If neither of those things is true, live up to the presumption of innocence that is basic to the US justice system and let them continue their life and show up for their trial.

About 500,000 people are being held in jail in the United States at any given time without having been convicted of the crime they are held for. 75% of those are for drug or property crimes, not for any kind of violence.

Cash bail has so many negative social consequences I don't even know where to start. It's a stain on our national justice system and should absolutely be done away with.
16 days ago
12/20/05
Posts: 50930

FAKE

16 days ago
8/5/13
Posts: 4781

But orange man bad.

 

 

 

 

 

Libtards

16 days ago
3/8/17
Posts: 478

I can understand the idea behind the no cash bail movement. 
 

but I think crime will skyrocket because of it  

 

so I hope the residents will enjoy their new shithole. 

16 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 29424
Nitecrawler -

Source is here:

 

https://nicolemalliotakis.com/bail/

The source is an opposing politician?

lol

16 days ago
6/15/19
Posts: 201
In Limbo - 

ask the NY/NYC lawmakers why they did this

and the common answer is

"because non white, minorities are didproportionately affected by these crimes"

 

equity of outcome bullshit


Don't worry though, when all of the US has the demographics of NYC nothing important will change!
16 days ago
6/3/03
Posts: 103130
Pratty -
Nitecrawler -

Source is here:

 

https://nicolemalliotakis.com/bail/

The source is an opposing politician?

lol

How about a friend on the NYPD:

 

NEW YORK BAIL REFORM GOES INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY 1st 2020.. 

Generally speaking, what does that mean???....Well...
 
If I were to put on a ski mask, open your child’s bedroom window, and climb into your home at 2am to burglarize it...

Or sell your family member enough drugs to overdose them 1,000 times over, and later lit their car on fire for not paying me on time...

If I shoved you against a wall and stole your purse or iPhone at a bus stop..

Even if I tortured animals, had X rated videos of a 15 year old, and literally stole your grandmothers life savings...

I would be arrested, complete a few hours of the processing, and walk right out of the front door with a piece of paper that tells me when to go to court. In fact! in NYC, DeBlasio is entertaining the idea of incentives!! That’s right, free Mets tickets and Dunkin gift cards for coming to your own court appearance 

Welcome to 2020 ladies & gentlemen

16 days ago
10/10/02
Posts: 12961
Pustak - Awesome, I fully support this decision, and hope to see it applied more widely in the near future. Cash bail is bullshit, and should be entirely abolished. If someone is dangerous or likely to flee justice, hold them in jail until their trial. If neither of those things is true, live up to the presumption of innocence that is basic to the US justice system and let them continue their life and show up for their trial.

About 500,000 people are being held in jail in the United States at any given time without having been convicted of the crime they are held for. 75% of those are for drug or property crimes, not for any kind of violence.

Cash bail has so many negative social consequences I don't even know where to start. It's a stain on our national justice system and should absolutely be done away with.

Yep, works out great for Atlanta lol

 

 

16 days ago
12/29/09
Posts: 28284

I smell Democrats. I mean, it has to be...

16 days ago
11/17/10
Posts: 50502
Pustak - Awesome, I fully support this decision, and hope to see it applied more widely in the near future. Cash bail is bullshit, and should be entirely abolished. If someone is dangerous or likely to flee justice, hold them in jail until their trial. If neither of those things is true, live up to the presumption of innocence that is basic to the US justice system and let them continue their life and show up for their trial.

About 500,000 people are being held in jail in the United States at any given time without having been convicted of the crime they are held for. 75% of those are for drug or property crimes, not for any kind of violence.

Cash bail has so many negative social consequences I don't even know where to start. It's a stain on our national justice system and should absolutely be done away with.

how do you actually "support" this decision?

 do you really "support" it?

 do you pay NYC resident taxes or sales taxes to NYC?

 

just asking

16 days ago
6/3/03
Posts: 103131


Or this source, PBA for one of the cities in NY.
16 days ago
5/15/07
Posts: 16921
I t must be completely real and not at all a troll since Nitecrawler posted it!