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I find it retarded that people who have suceeded in the greatest country/economy/freeest country in the history of the world, want to change it so badly.

OP obviously has reaped the benefits of our economy as he has been able to post every 15 minutes of his workday, every day, for years.

 

 

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to acknowledge my entire post?

If our country is making more money per capita than almost all of those countries but our citizens still have a lower quality of life than theirs...shouldn't something change? 

Do you believe in improvement?


Yes and to have improvement you would follow philosophies and policies that have a proven track record of actually improving people's lives.

These would be western values and free market policies.
You would lower the tax burden, grant educational freedom, provide incentives for entrepreneurs and business as a whole to grow, etc...


You would not follow socialist policies that have been a complete failure. You would not allow a centrally planned economy as that is a proven failure, nor would you burden your citizens with regressive tax policies, you would not force them into failing public schools, you would not make creating a business a bureaucratic nightmare, you would not limit free speech or personal liberty.


In short you have one philosophy that is a proven success in practice. On the other hand you have a philosophy that is a proven failure in practice. However liberals like to compare the actual practice of the first with the philosophy of the latter.

They know that their ideas have failed, but they are too emotionally invested to admit it. If they did then they would have to admit that their world view and personal failings are their own, not societies, and they are simply too weak to face the truth. Thus people screaming in the streets, attacking others, hiding behind false claims of racism, sexism, etc... It's all a front to keep themselves safe from reality.

Hopefully this helps you come out from the dark despair of liberalism and join us in the warm, enlightened light of liberty.

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Except that the countries with both higher and lower GDPs per capita than the U.S. that have higher quality of life than the U.S. by every metric, have the same "socialist" policies and programs that some Dems are pushing for. 

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According to who? 


As per the OP:

"...more than 20,000 global citizens from four regions to assess perceptions of 80 countries on 75 different metrics."

I'd like a little clarification on this. Who are these people and what qualifies them to answer these questions?

Was this whole study just a giant popularity contest?
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so basically what they are trying to say is quality of life is better in cold climate, predominantly white, socialist country's 


Size matters too.

It's easier to finance all those public programs when you don't have to provide them to hundreds of millions of citizens. The top nine countries on that list COMBINED have a smaller population than the United States. Germany at #10 is the one with a population in excess of 25 million.

It also helps that Uncle Sam subsidizes all of their national defense. They can all live in peace and sleep well at night because they know that if the worst happens and someone tries to violate their national sovereignty, Big Bro 'Murica will swoop in to save them.

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to talk about "per capita"?

 

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to acknowledge his entire post?


The first half of his post, the answer is "per capita". The U.S. has a higher GDP per capita than all but two of those countries, therefore despite the population size, should be more able to pay more per citizen on those things than almost any of those countries can.

The second half of his post, yawn. Nobody is forcing the U.S. to spend an absurd amount on our military, or to (as has happened in the latest budget) increase it beyond what even the Pentagon said they needed.

Hope this helps.

Now maybe you can explain why you guys fucking LOVE to talk about per capita when it comes to, say, black crime, but mysteriously switched to focusing only on absolute numbers in this case. Because I'm really curious.


If Trump cut the military budget, retards like you would say it's evidence that he is a Russian stooge, just like when he criticized NATO.

So he's not doing it because he's afraid Democrats will criticize him? lol

 


No, I'm saying you're retarded.

Hope this helps, retard

Yet you're the one saying we can't have the quality of life those countries do because we are opting to use all our money to protect them militarily, instead of raising the quality of life of our own citizens.

And you Trumptards are okay with this? What happened to America First?

Except I didn't say that.  You're making that up because you're dishonest.  And retarded.

 

Hope this helps.

Okay. My bad. I'm deeply sorry if I misunderstood what point you were trying to make. 

So, what is the reason that we make more money per capita than those other countries yet our citizens have a lower quality of life by virtually every metric you can think of? 


Sandy? You there?

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so basically what they are trying to say is quality of life is better in cold climate, predominantly white, socialist country's 


Size matters too.

It's easier to finance all those public programs when you don't have to provide them to hundreds of millions of citizens. The top nine countries on that list COMBINED have a smaller population than the United States. Germany at #10 is the one with a population in excess of 25 million.

It also helps that Uncle Sam subsidizes all of their national defense. They can all live in peace and sleep well at night because they know that if the worst happens and someone tries to violate their national sovereignty, Big Bro 'Murica will swoop in to save them.

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to talk about "per capita"?

 

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to acknowledge his entire post?


The first half of his post, the answer is "per capita". The U.S. has a higher GDP per capita than all but two of those countries, therefore despite the population size, should be more able to pay more per citizen on those things than almost any of those countries can.

The second half of his post, yawn. Nobody is forcing the U.S. to spend an absurd amount on our military, or to (as has happened in the latest budget) increase it beyond what even the Pentagon said they needed.

Hope this helps.

Now maybe you can explain why you guys fucking LOVE to talk about per capita when it comes to, say, black crime, but mysteriously switched to focusing only on absolute numbers in this case. Because I'm really curious.


If Trump cut the military budget, retards like you would say it's evidence that he is a Russian stooge, just like when he criticized NATO.

So he's not doing it because he's afraid Democrats will criticize him? lol

 


No, I'm saying you're retarded.

Hope this helps, retard

Yet you're the one saying we can't have the quality of life those countries do because we are opting to use all our money to protect them militarily, instead of raising the quality of life of our own citizens.

And you Trumptards are okay with this? What happened to America First?

Except I didn't say that.  You're making that up because you're dishonest.  And retarded.

 

Hope this helps.

Okay. My bad. I'm deeply sorry if I misunderstood what point you were trying to make. 

So, what is the reason that we make more money per capita than those other countries yet our citizens have a lower quality of life by virtually every metric you can think of? 

Just look at a different quality of life list.

 There are many released every year.   You chose the worst one because you like shitting on the USA.  Now you talk as if its fact....lol.   I can show you 10 "2019 Best Quality of Life" lists that show very different results than this one.


Cool, cool. I'd love for you to show me 10 lists of countries ranked by quality of life with "very different results than this one".

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Google "2019 Quality of Life List".  There you go.  I immediately saw 3 or 4 that had the USA in the top 3.  Very different results.

I can't help but notice that after Le Shat raped you, you didn't even reply to him.  You went back in the thread and looked for other things to argue.  Weak dude.  People always say you do that.  I see it now.

 

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Something else about those countries that have a common denominater......can't quite put my finger on it......

 

Anyone????

The top six are all countries that experience extended cold winters. This environment weeds out the lazies and fortifies the social bonds that are (well, were) required during these harsh months. These two factors are necessary to create and sustain a system of social support because everyone understands that any type of socialist project requires uniform input from all participants to be sustainable. 

That's what you meant, right? 

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so basically what they are trying to say is quality of life is better in cold climate, predominantly white, socialist country's 


Size matters too.

It's easier to finance all those public programs when you don't have to provide them to hundreds of millions of citizens. The top nine countries on that list COMBINED have a smaller population than the United States. Germany at #10 is the one with a population in excess of 25 million.

It also helps that Uncle Sam subsidizes all of their national defense. They can all live in peace and sleep well at night because they know that if the worst happens and someone tries to violate their national sovereignty, Big Bro 'Murica will swoop in to save them.

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to talk about "per capita"?

 

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to acknowledge his entire post?


The first half of his post, the answer is "per capita". The U.S. has a higher GDP per capita than all but two of those countries, therefore despite the population size, should be more able to pay more per citizen on those things than almost any of those countries can.

The second half of his post, yawn. Nobody is forcing the U.S. to spend an absurd amount on our military, or to (as has happened in the latest budget) increase it beyond what even the Pentagon said they needed.

Hope this helps.

Now maybe you can explain why you guys fucking LOVE to talk about per capita when it comes to, say, black crime, but mysteriously switched to focusing only on absolute numbers in this case. Because I'm really curious.


If Trump cut the military budget, retards like you would say it's evidence that he is a Russian stooge, just like when he criticized NATO.

So he's not doing it because he's afraid Democrats will criticize him? lol

 


No, I'm saying you're retarded.

Hope this helps, retard

Yet you're the one saying we can't have the quality of life those countries do because we are opting to use all our money to protect them militarily, instead of raising the quality of life of our own citizens.

And you Trumptards are okay with this? What happened to America First?

Except I didn't say that.  You're making that up because you're dishonest.  And retarded.

 

Hope this helps.

Okay. My bad. I'm deeply sorry if I misunderstood what point you were trying to make. 

So, what is the reason that we make more money per capita than those other countries yet our citizens have a lower quality of life by virtually every metric you can think of? 


Sandy? You there?


I don't have a lower quality of life than the citizens of any of those countries, so the question is as idiotic as the OP. I wouldn't choose a single one of those nations over the USA and apparently neither would you, or else you would leave. So the real question is, despite your ability to leave, why do you choose to stay in a place that you believe provides you with a lower quality of life? Masochism?
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It's funny how much people get triggered by a study's findings. This forum is full of guys who shout about snowflakes and cry babies and getting triggered, and yet just posting the study results sends everyone into a tizzy. 

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Nice list... none of them are socialist governments/economies.


They're about as "socialist" as the policies espoused by Dems, hence the quotation marks.

Hope this helps.

You make the assumption that OGers understand the proper use of quotations. 

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so basically what they are trying to say is quality of life is better in cold climate, predominantly white, socialist country's 


Size matters too.

It's easier to finance all those public programs when you don't have to provide them to hundreds of millions of citizens. The top nine countries on that list COMBINED have a smaller population than the United States. Germany at #10 is the one with a population in excess of 25 million.

It also helps that Uncle Sam subsidizes all of their national defense. They can all live in peace and sleep well at night because they know that if the worst happens and someone tries to violate their national sovereignty, Big Bro 'Murica will swoop in to save them.

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to talk about "per capita"?

 

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to acknowledge his entire post?


The first half of his post, the answer is "per capita". The U.S. has a higher GDP per capita than all but two of those countries, therefore despite the population size, should be more able to pay more per citizen on those things than almost any of those countries can.

The second half of his post, yawn. Nobody is forcing the U.S. to spend an absurd amount on our military, or to (as has happened in the latest budget) increase it beyond what even the Pentagon said they needed.

Hope this helps.

Now maybe you can explain why you guys fucking LOVE to talk about per capita when it comes to, say, black crime, but mysteriously switched to focusing only on absolute numbers in this case. Because I'm really curious.


If Trump cut the military budget, retards like you would say it's evidence that he is a Russian stooge, just like when he criticized NATO.

So he's not doing it because he's afraid Democrats will criticize him? lol

 


No, I'm saying you're retarded.

Hope this helps, retard

Yet you're the one saying we can't have the quality of life those countries do because we are opting to use all our money to protect them militarily, instead of raising the quality of life of our own citizens.

And you Trumptards are okay with this? What happened to America First?

Except I didn't say that.  You're making that up because you're dishonest.  And retarded.

 

Hope this helps.

Okay. My bad. I'm deeply sorry if I misunderstood what point you were trying to make. 

So, what is the reason that we make more money per capita than those other countries yet our citizens have a lower quality of life by virtually every metric you can think of? 


Sandy? You there?


I don't have a lower quality of life than the citizens of any of those countries, so the question is as idiotic as the OP. I wouldn't choose a single one of those nations over the USA and apparently neither would you, or else you would leave. So the real question is, despite your ability to leave, why do you choose to stay in a place that you believe provides you with a lower quality of life? Masochism?

It's really too bad you guys didn't leave back when Obama was "destroying" the country. I mean, why did you stay? That's pretty stupid, right?

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You know you are a Trumper when you don’t want to fix your country. You just beleive that we are #1 because we are Merica!!!!

 

 

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It's funny how much people get triggered by a study's findings. This forum is full of guys who shout about snowflakes and cry babies and getting triggered, and yet just posting the study results sends everyone into a tizzy. 


Goodness you parrots are stupid.

"Triggered" is when liberals say words, phrases and concepts are so offensive that they should be banned and not allowed in "safe spaces". Before it was just liberal campuses, now your politicians are doing the same in saying Trump should not be allowed to have rallies, Fox News should not be on the air, and conservative speaker should be banned from social media.


Having an open debate about the merits of a study and the principles of those standards is what reasonable adults do when their philosophies are diametrically opposed.

I think even a simple minded sheeple like you can understand that. (I really don't, you'll just keep wallowing in ignorance)

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You know you are a Trumper when you don’t want to fix your country. You just beleive that we are #1 because we are Merica!!!!

 

 


So you fix a country with the marxist policies that the left touts? The same policies they were advocating with Venezuela a few years ago?

LMAO, you know you're a liberal when you are too stupid to learn from history and keep thinking you'll get it right this time.

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It's funny how much people get triggered by a study's findings. This forum is full of guys who shout about snowflakes and cry babies and getting triggered, and yet just posting the study results sends everyone into a tizzy. 


Goodness you parrots are stupid.

"Triggered" is when liberals say words, phrases and concepts are so offensive that they should be banned and not allowed in "safe spaces". Before it was just liberal campuses, now your politicians are doing the same in saying Trump should not be allowed to have rallies, Fox News should not be on the air, and conservative speaker should be banned from social media.


Having an open debate about the merits of a study and the principles of those standards is what reasonable adults do when their philosophies are diametrically opposed.

I think even a simple minded sheeple like you can understand that. (I really don't, you'll just keep wallowing in ignorance)

Le Shat

You know he has a point

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Le Shat V2 - So countries that are not socialist and several that pulled back on their social programs as they started to fail in short order

LMAO.

We have 100 years of history with fully socialist countries.
These countries were complete economic failures and murderous regimes.


Welcome to reality, kid.

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so basically what they are trying to say is quality of life is better in cold climate, predominantly white, socialist country's 


Size matters too.

It's easier to finance all those public programs when you don't have to provide them to hundreds of millions of citizens. The top nine countries on that list COMBINED have a smaller population than the United States. Germany at #10 is the one with a population in excess of 25 million.

It also helps that Uncle Sam subsidizes all of their national defense. They can all live in peace and sleep well at night because they know that if the worst happens and someone tries to violate their national sovereignty, Big Bro 'Murica will swoop in to save them.

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to talk about "per capita"?

 

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to acknowledge his entire post?


The first half of his post, the answer is "per capita". The U.S. has a higher GDP per capita than all but two of those countries, therefore despite the population size, should be more able to pay more per citizen on those things than almost any of those countries can.

The second half of his post, yawn. Nobody is forcing the U.S. to spend an absurd amount on our military, or to (as has happened in the latest budget) increase it beyond what even the Pentagon said they needed.

Hope this helps.

Now maybe you can explain why you guys fucking LOVE to talk about per capita when it comes to, say, black crime, but mysteriously switched to focusing only on absolute numbers in this case. Because I'm really curious.


If Trump cut the military budget, retards like you would say it's evidence that he is a Russian stooge, just like when he criticized NATO.

So he's not doing it because he's afraid Democrats will criticize him? lol

 


No, I'm saying you're retarded.

Hope this helps, retard

Yet you're the one saying we can't have the quality of life those countries do because we are opting to use all our money to protect them militarily, instead of raising the quality of life of our own citizens.

And you Trumptards are okay with this? What happened to America First?

Except I didn't say that.  You're making that up because you're dishonest.  And retarded.

 

Hope this helps.

Okay. My bad. I'm deeply sorry if I misunderstood what point you were trying to make. 

So, what is the reason that we make more money per capita than those other countries yet our citizens have a lower quality of life by virtually every metric you can think of? 


Sandy? You there?


I don't have a lower quality of life than the citizens of any of those countries, so the question is as idiotic as the OP. I wouldn't choose a single one of those nations over the USA and apparently neither would you, or else you would leave. So the real question is, despite your ability to leave, why do you choose to stay in a place that you believe provides you with a lower quality of life? Masochism?

It's really too bad you guys didn't leave back when Obama was "destroying" the country. I mean, why did you stay? That's pretty stupid, right?


When did I ever say citizens in other countries had better quality of lives under Obama?
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so basically what they are trying to say is quality of life is better in cold climate, predominantly white, socialist country's 


Size matters too.

It's easier to finance all those public programs when you don't have to provide them to hundreds of millions of citizens. The top nine countries on that list COMBINED have a smaller population than the United States. Germany at #10 is the one with a population in excess of 25 million.

It also helps that Uncle Sam subsidizes all of their national defense. They can all live in peace and sleep well at night because they know that if the worst happens and someone tries to violate their national sovereignty, Big Bro 'Murica will swoop in to save them.

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to talk about "per capita"?

 

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to acknowledge his entire post?


The first half of his post, the answer is "per capita". The U.S. has a higher GDP per capita than all but two of those countries, therefore despite the population size, should be more able to pay more per citizen on those things than almost any of those countries can.

The second half of his post, yawn. Nobody is forcing the U.S. to spend an absurd amount on our military, or to (as has happened in the latest budget) increase it beyond what even the Pentagon said they needed.

Hope this helps.

Now maybe you can explain why you guys fucking LOVE to talk about per capita when it comes to, say, black crime, but mysteriously switched to focusing only on absolute numbers in this case. Because I'm really curious.


If Trump cut the military budget, retards like you would say it's evidence that he is a Russian stooge, just like when he criticized NATO.

So he's not doing it because he's afraid Democrats will criticize him? lol

 


No, I'm saying you're retarded.

Hope this helps, retard

Yet you're the one saying we can't have the quality of life those countries do because we are opting to use all our money to protect them militarily, instead of raising the quality of life of our own citizens.

And you Trumptards are okay with this? What happened to America First?

Except I didn't say that.  You're making that up because you're dishonest.  And retarded.

 

Hope this helps.

Okay. My bad. I'm deeply sorry if I misunderstood what point you were trying to make. 

So, what is the reason that we make more money per capita than those other countries yet our citizens have a lower quality of life by virtually every metric you can think of? 


Sandy? You there?


I don't have a lower quality of life than the citizens of any of those countries, so the question is as idiotic as the OP. I wouldn't choose a single one of those nations over the USA and apparently neither would you, or else you would leave. So the real question is, despite your ability to leave, why do you choose to stay in a place that you believe provides you with a lower quality of life? Masochism?

It's really too bad you guys didn't leave back when Obama was "destroying" the country. I mean, why did you stay? That's pretty stupid, right?


When did I ever say citizens in other countries had better quality of lives under Obama?

I guess you had nowhere else to go.

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so basically what they are trying to say is quality of life is better in cold climate, predominantly white, socialist country's 


Size matters too.

It's easier to finance all those public programs when you don't have to provide them to hundreds of millions of citizens. The top nine countries on that list COMBINED have a smaller population than the United States. Germany at #10 is the one with a population in excess of 25 million.

It also helps that Uncle Sam subsidizes all of their national defense. They can all live in peace and sleep well at night because they know that if the worst happens and someone tries to violate their national sovereignty, Big Bro 'Murica will swoop in to save them.

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to talk about "per capita"?

 

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to acknowledge his entire post?


The first half of his post, the answer is "per capita". The U.S. has a higher GDP per capita than all but two of those countries, therefore despite the population size, should be more able to pay more per citizen on those things than almost any of those countries can.

The second half of his post, yawn. Nobody is forcing the U.S. to spend an absurd amount on our military, or to (as has happened in the latest budget) increase it beyond what even the Pentagon said they needed.

Hope this helps.

Now maybe you can explain why you guys fucking LOVE to talk about per capita when it comes to, say, black crime, but mysteriously switched to focusing only on absolute numbers in this case. Because I'm really curious.


If Trump cut the military budget, retards like you would say it's evidence that he is a Russian stooge, just like when he criticized NATO.

So he's not doing it because he's afraid Democrats will criticize him? lol

 


No, I'm saying you're retarded.

Hope this helps, retard

Yet you're the one saying we can't have the quality of life those countries do because we are opting to use all our money to protect them militarily, instead of raising the quality of life of our own citizens.

And you Trumptards are okay with this? What happened to America First?

Except I didn't say that.  You're making that up because you're dishonest.  And retarded.

 

Hope this helps.

Okay. My bad. I'm deeply sorry if I misunderstood what point you were trying to make. 

So, what is the reason that we make more money per capita than those other countries yet our citizens have a lower quality of life by virtually every metric you can think of? 


Sandy? You there?


I don't have a lower quality of life than the citizens of any of those countries, so the question is as idiotic as the OP. I wouldn't choose a single one of those nations over the USA and apparently neither would you, or else you would leave. So the real question is, despite your ability to leave, why do you choose to stay in a place that you believe provides you with a lower quality of life? Masochism?

It's really too bad you guys didn't leave back when Obama was "destroying" the country. I mean, why did you stay? That's pretty stupid, right?


When did I ever say citizens in other countries had better quality of lives under Obama?

I guess you had nowhere else to go.


Correct, the USA was still better than every other country. Glad to see you finally smartening up.
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You know you are a Trumper when you don’t want to fix your country. You just beleive that we are #1 because we are Merica!!!!

 

 

What is the campaign slogan for trump again?

 

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The US is 17...... yeah ok guy.

what's wrong with 17?  out of 195 countries, that still puts us in the top 10% of countries on the quality of life scale.  i can accept that.  we don't have to be #1 at everything.

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Sweet. I'm sure these countries will take me in as a refugee now from this shit hole country.  I can just walk across the border and claim asylum right?