OtherGround Forums "Socialist" countries dominate quality of life

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3/15/15
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5/18/10
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Most of those countries have higher freedom metrics than the US

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7/31/09
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Ill Portents -
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senor orcus. Where does your country fall on that list?  


# 17.

Does that make it a shithole?

 

 

You are American now?


I have never not been.

Hope this helps.

Nothing you say helps, you moron.

6 days ago
4/9/19
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jbc -

The US system allows for a financially successful person to retain more of their own individual wealth.  It's easy, however, for people to fall through the cracks, as there are minimal safety nets. As a consequence, the rich are getting richer and the poor stay poor. Look at the increase in total wealth held by the top 1% of the population over time as a readout. 

The question is how many social safety nets are required to facilitate an optimal society. If you go too far with a punitive taxation system, then there's no incentive to be entrepreneurial.

 

I was born into poverty.  6 people in my house and my parents made $10 an hour each.  My mother just abandoned us when we I was 3 months old.  We were dirt poor in the middle of nowhere an hour from the nearest city.  My parents were alcoholics.  I was the first in my family to go to college.  I went to a community college because I had no hope of going to a university.  My SAT scores were very good in high school, but I didn't know jack shit about how to get scholorships and the school didn't have anyone to help.  I literally moved out when I was 17 with some clothes in a trash bag because my father tried to shoot me because we got into a fight after I tried to stop him from hitting my mom.

I do very well now.  If you are willing to work and conduct yourself with integrity, you can be successful in this country.  There are too many rags to riches stories here for what you are saying to be true.  The poor stay poor here because they make poor people decisions, because they are sedentary, because they are too accustomed to handouts, many reasons.  I don't think it's because of the US system.  If they can't make it here they can't make it anywhere.

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11/28/08
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Steve4192 -
Thats fukin illegal - 

so basically what they are trying to say is quality of life is better in cold climate, predominantly white, socialist country's 


Size matters too.

It's easier to finance all those public programs when you don't have to provide them to hundreds of millions of citizens. The top nine countries on that list COMBINED have a smaller population than the United States. Germany at #10 is the one with a population in excess of 25 million.

It also helps that Uncle Sam subsidizes all of their national defense. They can all live in peace and sleep well at night because they know that if the worst happens and someone tries to violate their national sovereignty, Big Bro 'Murica will swoop in to save them.

Neither of those things account why healthcare in America is much more expensive. 

6 days ago
11/28/08
Posts: 21257
JayMan -
jbc -

The US system allows for a financially successful person to retain more of their own individual wealth.  It's easy, however, for people to fall through the cracks, as there are minimal safety nets. As a consequence, the rich are getting richer and the poor stay poor. Look at the increase in total wealth held by the top 1% of the population over time as a readout. 

The question is how many social safety nets are required to facilitate an optimal society. If you go too far with a punitive taxation system, then there's no incentive to be entrepreneurial.

 

I was born into poverty.  6 people in my house and my parents made $10 an hour each.  My mother just abandoned us when we I was 3 months old.  We were dirt poor in the middle of nowhere an hour from the nearest city.  My parents were alcoholics.  I was the first in my family to go to college.  I went to a community college because I had no hope of going to a university.  My SAT scores were very good in high school, but I didn't know jack shit about how to get scholorships and the school didn't have anyone to help.  I literally moved out when I was 17 with some clothes in a trash bag because my father tried to shoot me because we got into a fight after I tried to stop him from hitting my mom.

I do very well now.  If you are willing to work and conduct yourself with integrity, you can be successful in this country.  There are too many rags to riches stories here for what you are saying to be true.  The poor stay poor here because they make poor people decisions, because they are sedentary, because they are too accustomed to handouts, many reasons.  I don't think it's because of the US system.  If they can't make it here they can't make it anywhere.

America doesn’t do so hot when it comes to social mobility rankings either.

6 days ago
1/1/01
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Al Cappucino - 

Something else about those countries that have a common denominater......can't quite put my finger on it......

 

Anyone????


LOL
6 days ago
1/3/18
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There’s always some faggot retard that will espouse the greatness of communist/socialist countries. Yet, I have never seen or heard one of these Orctards say bye to America and go live in their espoused utopia to never return.

Either go experience it firsthand by living in it, or shut your fucking cockhole. We don’t care and don’t want that bullshit here. Only useless, worthless faggots that can’t succeed in life want socialism/communism in America. 

Of course no one is surprised that orcus checks all the boxes for making a gay ass post like this. Go choke on a horse cock, op. 

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7/15/17
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so basically what they are trying to say is quality of life is better in cold climate, predominantly white, socialist country's  

ok u racists commys

6 days ago
10/2/12
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Sandy Pantz -
Ill Portents - 
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Al Cappucino - 
Ill Portents -
Steve4192 - 
Thats fukin illegal - 

so basically what they are trying to say is quality of life is better in cold climate, predominantly white, socialist country's 


Size matters too.

It's easier to finance all those public programs when you don't have to provide them to hundreds of millions of citizens. The top nine countries on that list COMBINED have a smaller population than the United States. Germany at #10 is the one with a population in excess of 25 million.

It also helps that Uncle Sam subsidizes all of their national defense. They can all live in peace and sleep well at night because they know that if the worst happens and someone tries to violate their national sovereignty, Big Bro 'Murica will swoop in to save them.

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to talk about "per capita"?

 

Is this one of those situations where you DON'T want to acknowledge his entire post?


The first half of his post, the answer is "per capita". The U.S. has a higher GDP per capita than all but two of those countries, therefore despite the population size, should be more able to pay more per citizen on those things than almost any of those countries can.

The second half of his post, yawn. Nobody is forcing the U.S. to spend an absurd amount on our military, or to (as has happened in the latest budget) increase it beyond what even the Pentagon said they needed.

Hope this helps.

Now maybe you can explain why you guys fucking LOVE to talk about per capita when it comes to, say, black crime, but mysteriously switched to focusing only on absolute numbers in this case. Because I'm really curious.


If Trump cut the military budget, retards like you would say it's evidence that he is a Russian stooge, just like when he criticized NATO.

So he's not doing it because he's afraid Democrats will criticize him? lol

 


No, I'm saying you're retarded.

Hope this helps, retard

I don’t think orcus is retarded. He’s just dependent on his shariablue minimum wage. 

6 days ago
4/9/19
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anthonyMI -
JayMan -
jbc -

The US system allows for a financially successful person to retain more of their own individual wealth.  It's easy, however, for people to fall through the cracks, as there are minimal safety nets. As a consequence, the rich are getting richer and the poor stay poor. Look at the increase in total wealth held by the top 1% of the population over time as a readout. 

The question is how many social safety nets are required to facilitate an optimal society. If you go too far with a punitive taxation system, then there's no incentive to be entrepreneurial.

 

I was born into poverty.  6 people in my house and my parents made $10 an hour each.  My mother just abandoned us when we I was 3 months old.  We were dirt poor in the middle of nowhere an hour from the nearest city.  My parents were alcoholics.  I was the first in my family to go to college.  I went to a community college because I had no hope of going to a university.  My SAT scores were very good in high school, but I didn't know jack shit about how to get scholorships and the school didn't have anyone to help.  I literally moved out when I was 17 with some clothes in a trash bag because my father tried to shoot me because we got into a fight after I tried to stop him from hitting my mom.

I do very well now.  If you are willing to work and conduct yourself with integrity, you can be successful in this country.  There are too many rags to riches stories here for what you are saying to be true.  The poor stay poor here because they make poor people decisions, because they are sedentary, because they are too accustomed to handouts, many reasons.  I don't think it's because of the US system.  If they can't make it here they can't make it anywhere.

America doesn’t do so hot when it comes to social mobility rankings either.

Does that account for people that don't want to move up?  Many of the poor people here choose to be there.

6 days ago
5/13/17
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Canada 37 million people.

Sweden 10 million people

Denmark 5+ million people 

Norway   5+ million people 

Switzerland 8+ million people 

Finland.     5+ million people

Australia. 25 million people 

Netherlands 17 million people...

 

 

USA  329,357,987 people, as of yesterday. Not including 10-20 million undocumented immigrants. 

And permanent underclass on government assistance in the tens of millions, most of which have smart phones, cable tv, and are fat as fuck.

6 days ago
2/25/17
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Canada number one? The fucking losers haven’t won the Stanley cup since 93. It’s pretty sad the USA stole hockey from them with out a fight 

6 days ago
3/20/15
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Scotttbu - 

Canada number one? The fucking losers haven’t won the Stanley cup since 93. It’s pretty sad the USA stole hockey from them with out a fight 


Really ? What team won with less than 51% Canadians on the team ?

6 days ago
11/10/18
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The Salaminzer -

Canada 37 million people.

Sweden 10 million people

Denmark 5+ million people 

Norway   5+ million people 

Switzerland 8+ million people 

Finland.     5+ million people

Australia. 25 million people 

Netherlands 17 million people...

 

 

USA  329,357,987 people, as of yesterday. Not including 10-20 million undocumented immigrants. 

And permanent underclass on government assistance in the tens of millions, most of which have smart phones, cable tv, and are fat as fuck.

Exactly this. The small countries on the list also have well defined cultures. You can implement a system that works well for most people as most people are very similar. The US lacks a clearly defined culture. And this isn’t a racial issue. It’s a size issue. 

6 days ago
7/4/13
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Jesus Christ, this thread is all over the place.

I can't even make a coherent argument out of it that I can reply to. Just shit throwing.

6 days ago
9/23/07
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Ill Portents - 
The 2019 Best Countries rankings, formed in partnership with BAV Group, a unit of global marketing communications company VMLY&R, and the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, are based on a study that surveyed more than 20,000 global citizens from four regions to assess perceptions of 80 countries on 75 different metrics. The Quality of Life subranking is based on an equally weighted average of scores from nine country attributes that relate to quality of life in a country: affordable, a good job market, economically stable, family friendly, income equality, politically stable, safe, well-developed public education system and well-developed public health system. The Quality of Life subranking score had a 17 percent weight in the overall Best Countries ranking.
 
 
1. Canada - No change for past 4 years
2. Sweden - Up 1 from # 3 in 2018
3. Denmark - Down 1 from # 2 in 2018
4. Norway - No change from 2018
5. Switzerland - Up 1 from # 6 in 2018
6. Finland - Up 1 from # 7 in 2018
7. Australia - Down 2 from # 5 in 2018
8. Netherlands - No change from 2018
9. New Zealand - No change from 2018
10. Germany - No change from 2018
 
 For the fourth consecutive year, Canada ranks No. 1 overall for providing a good quality of life. Survey respondents view the North American country as No. 1 for both being politically stable and having a well-developed public education system, and No. 2 for having a good job market, a perception supported by independent research. The North American country is seen as possessing the fifth best well-developed public health care system. In fact, Canada is rated in the top 10 in all but one of the nine attributes, affordability, where Asian countries dominate.
 
 
For the second year in a row, the United States ranks No. 17 overall by survey respondents for providing a good quality of life. Its highest ranking is for its job market, where it ranks first. Its lowest ranking came in affordability, where survey responses placed it No. 56.

Soo..... Capitalist countries with mostly white people ...

Check.
6 days ago
10/16/07
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Scotttbu -

Canada number one? The fucking losers haven’t won the Stanley cup since 93. It’s pretty sad the USA stole hockey from them with out a fight 

You are paying Canadians to wear your shirts and play hockey...league expansion meant more Canadians able to play hockey for a living.   It’s not like a team of Americans has won the cup yet.

6 days ago
7/4/13
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Brockback Mountain - 
Ill Portents - 
The 2019 Best Countries rankings, formed in partnership with BAV Group, a unit of global marketing communications company VMLY&R, and the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, are based on a study that surveyed more than 20,000 global citizens from four regions to assess perceptions of 80 countries on 75 different metrics. The Quality of Life subranking is based on an equally weighted average of scores from nine country attributes that relate to quality of life in a country: affordable, a good job market, economically stable, family friendly, income equality, politically stable, safe, well-developed public education system and well-developed public health system. The Quality of Life subranking score had a 17 percent weight in the overall Best Countries ranking.
 
 
1. Canada - No change for past 4 years
2. Sweden - Up 1 from # 3 in 2018
3. Denmark - Down 1 from # 2 in 2018
4. Norway - No change from 2018
5. Switzerland - Up 1 from # 6 in 2018
6. Finland - Up 1 from # 7 in 2018
7. Australia - Down 2 from # 5 in 2018
8. Netherlands - No change from 2018
9. New Zealand - No change from 2018
10. Germany - No change from 2018
 
 For the fourth consecutive year, Canada ranks No. 1 overall for providing a good quality of life. Survey respondents view the North American country as No. 1 for both being politically stable and having a well-developed public education system, and No. 2 for having a good job market, a perception supported by independent research. The North American country is seen as possessing the fifth best well-developed public health care system. In fact, Canada is rated in the top 10 in all but one of the nine attributes, affordability, where Asian countries dominate.
 
 
For the second year in a row, the United States ranks No. 17 overall by survey respondents for providing a good quality of life. Its highest ranking is for its job market, where it ranks first. Its lowest ranking came in affordability, where survey responses placed it No. 56.

Soo..... Capitalist countries with mostly white people ...

Check.

Yep, and the reason being capitalism works much, much better than anything else we've came up with.

And people turn white when the climate gets out of the way, in other words poses no obstacles to overcome, allowing rapid development of technology, along with more free productive hours each day, that give an enormouse advantage over countries where the sun imposes on life every day and reduces productive hours.

Is this so hard?

It's not because of any kind of racial superiority. Personally I prefer to live in warmer climates, but the milder ones are much more likely to be rich, and more likely to report higher levels of quality of life. The exceptions are consequences of colonialism.

6 days ago
1/1/01
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Brockback Mountain - 
Ill Portents - 
The 2019 Best Countries rankings, formed in partnership with BAV Group, a unit of global marketing communications company VMLY&R, and the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, are based on a study that surveyed more than 20,000 global citizens from four regions to assess perceptions of 80 countries on 75 different metrics. The Quality of Life subranking is based on an equally weighted average of scores from nine country attributes that relate to quality of life in a country: affordable, a good job market, economically stable, family friendly, income equality, politically stable, safe, well-developed public education system and well-developed public health system. The Quality of Life subranking score had a 17 percent weight in the overall Best Countries ranking.
 
 
1. Canada - No change for past 4 years
2. Sweden - Up 1 from # 3 in 2018
3. Denmark - Down 1 from # 2 in 2018
4. Norway - No change from 2018
5. Switzerland - Up 1 from # 6 in 2018
6. Finland - Up 1 from # 7 in 2018
7. Australia - Down 2 from # 5 in 2018
8. Netherlands - No change from 2018
9. New Zealand - No change from 2018
10. Germany - No change from 2018
 
 For the fourth consecutive year, Canada ranks No. 1 overall for providing a good quality of life. Survey respondents view the North American country as No. 1 for both being politically stable and having a well-developed public education system, and No. 2 for having a good job market, a perception supported by independent research. The North American country is seen as possessing the fifth best well-developed public health care system. In fact, Canada is rated in the top 10 in all but one of the nine attributes, affordability, where Asian countries dominate.
 
 
For the second year in a row, the United States ranks No. 17 overall by survey respondents for providing a good quality of life. Its highest ranking is for its job market, where it ranks first. Its lowest ranking came in affordability, where survey responses placed it No. 56.

Soo..... Capitalist countries with mostly white people ...

Check.

Precisely.

They're just well run Nations that understand ideological purity is nonsense. You take what works, which is generally beginning with a Capitalist model and incorporating competing ideologies where it makes sense.

6 days ago
6/7/05
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Being cold as fuck like all those places represents an extremely poor quality of life to me.
6 days ago
12/26/05
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So let's get this straight.  We are judging the ten mostly monocultural counties, the top ten of which combined dont even add up to a third of the US population, in a standard of living judgment based at least in part regarding public (and not private) services available to the population?

 

Share blue is full of fucking retards.

6 days ago
12/26/05
Posts: 42817
pulsar -
Brockback Mountain - 
Ill Portents - 
The 2019 Best Countries rankings, formed in partnership with BAV Group, a unit of global marketing communications company VMLY&R, and the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, are based on a study that surveyed more than 20,000 global citizens from four regions to assess perceptions of 80 countries on 75 different metrics. The Quality of Life subranking is based on an equally weighted average of scores from nine country attributes that relate to quality of life in a country: affordable, a good job market, economically stable, family friendly, income equality, politically stable, safe, well-developed public education system and well-developed public health system. The Quality of Life subranking score had a 17 percent weight in the overall Best Countries ranking.
 
 
1. Canada - No change for past 4 years
2. Sweden - Up 1 from # 3 in 2018
3. Denmark - Down 1 from # 2 in 2018
4. Norway - No change from 2018
5. Switzerland - Up 1 from # 6 in 2018
6. Finland - Up 1 from # 7 in 2018
7. Australia - Down 2 from # 5 in 2018
8. Netherlands - No change from 2018
9. New Zealand - No change from 2018
10. Germany - No change from 2018
 
 For the fourth consecutive year, Canada ranks No. 1 overall for providing a good quality of life. Survey respondents view the North American country as No. 1 for both being politically stable and having a well-developed public education system, and No. 2 for having a good job market, a perception supported by independent research. The North American country is seen as possessing the fifth best well-developed public health care system. In fact, Canada is rated in the top 10 in all but one of the nine attributes, affordability, where Asian countries dominate.
 
 
For the second year in a row, the United States ranks No. 17 overall by survey respondents for providing a good quality of life. Its highest ranking is for its job market, where it ranks first. Its lowest ranking came in affordability, where survey responses placed it No. 56.

Soo..... Capitalist countries with mostly white people ...

Check.

Precisely.

They're just well run Nations that understand ideological purity is nonsense. You take what works, which is generally beginning with a Capitalist model and incorporating competing ideologies where it makes sense.

AWESOME.

 

Hey, who's the friendly global hegemon 10 times our size that we can count on to stabilize trade relationships,  eat the majority of our R&D costs,  and provide +80% of our military protection ?

 

I'm sure those are readily available.  Let's start a list of all the countries that fit that criteria.  

 

GO!

6 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 58327
CavemanDave - 
pulsar -
Brockback Mountain - 
Ill Portents - 
The 2019 Best Countries rankings, formed in partnership with BAV Group, a unit of global marketing communications company VMLY&R, and the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, are based on a study that surveyed more than 20,000 global citizens from four regions to assess perceptions of 80 countries on 75 different metrics. The Quality of Life subranking is based on an equally weighted average of scores from nine country attributes that relate to quality of life in a country: affordable, a good job market, economically stable, family friendly, income equality, politically stable, safe, well-developed public education system and well-developed public health system. The Quality of Life subranking score had a 17 percent weight in the overall Best Countries ranking.
 
 
1. Canada - No change for past 4 years
2. Sweden - Up 1 from # 3 in 2018
3. Denmark - Down 1 from # 2 in 2018
4. Norway - No change from 2018
5. Switzerland - Up 1 from # 6 in 2018
6. Finland - Up 1 from # 7 in 2018
7. Australia - Down 2 from # 5 in 2018
8. Netherlands - No change from 2018
9. New Zealand - No change from 2018
10. Germany - No change from 2018
 
 For the fourth consecutive year, Canada ranks No. 1 overall for providing a good quality of life. Survey respondents view the North American country as No. 1 for both being politically stable and having a well-developed public education system, and No. 2 for having a good job market, a perception supported by independent research. The North American country is seen as possessing the fifth best well-developed public health care system. In fact, Canada is rated in the top 10 in all but one of the nine attributes, affordability, where Asian countries dominate.
 
 
For the second year in a row, the United States ranks No. 17 overall by survey respondents for providing a good quality of life. Its highest ranking is for its job market, where it ranks first. Its lowest ranking came in affordability, where survey responses placed it No. 56.

Soo..... Capitalist countries with mostly white people ...

Check.

Precisely.

They're just well run Nations that understand ideological purity is nonsense. You take what works, which is generally beginning with a Capitalist model and incorporating competing ideologies where it makes sense.

AWESOME.

 

Hey, who's the friendly global hegemon 10 times our size that we can count on to stabilize trade relationships,  eat the majority of our R&D costs,  and provide +80% of our military protection ?

 

I'm sure those are readily available.  Let's start a list of all the countries that fit that criteria.  

 

GO!


Oh it's all 1 way traffic isn't it Caveman (never more apt username?). Apparently it's not just the current buffoon in chief who sees these alliances as zero sum deals.

For real, the post World War 2 NWO hasn't offered any benefits to you guys... *Groan*

Why do you insist on these pathetic, narrow-minded positions Dave? It's a shame you don't use your powers for good.

6 days ago
4/19/09
Posts: 32546
Al Cappucino -

Something else about those countries that have a common denominater......can't quite put my finger on it......

 

Anyone????

1-6 are fucking cold.