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*Appointment of Special Counsel to Investigate Russian Interference With the 2016 Presidential Election and Related Matters* (May 17, 2017)

(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

    (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

    (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation (full order)...

Official DOJ Special Counsel (site with all documents and details): https://www.justice.gov/sco

*Indictments*

| U.S. v. George Papadopoulos |

George Papadopoulos, of Chicago, Illinois, pleaded guilty on Oct. 5, 2017, to making false statements to FBI agents, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001. The case was unsealed on Oct. 30, 2017.

Role: member of foreign policy advisory panel

Status: cooperating witness (plea agreement)

Statement of the Offense: https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download

- 'Claimed that his interactions with an overseas professor [Joseph Mifsud - MIA], who defendant understood to have substantial connections to Russian government officials, occurred before defendant became a foreign policy advisor to the Campaign.'

- '... professor had told him about the Russians possessing "dirt" on then-candidate Hillary Clinton in the form of "thousands of emails," but stated multiple times that he learned that information prior to joining the Campaign.'

- '... further told investigating agents that the professor was "a nothing"... In truth and in fact, however, defendant understood that the professor had substantial connections to Russian government officials (and had met with some of those officials in Moscow immediately prior to telling defendant about the "thousands of emails" and, over a period of months, defendant repeatedly sought to use the professor's Russian connections in an effort to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and Russian government officials.'

More (links):

- The False Statements George Papadopoulos Made about “Dirt” Were Designed to Hide Whether He Told the Campaign about the Emails (Wheeler)

- Timeline of communications (Wheeler)

- Speech and Email Release: The Three Public Statement Signals Tied to Russia’s Dirt-as-Emails (Wheeler)

- George Papadopoulos, his bride-to-be, and the Russia-linked ‘professor’ who brought them together (The Washington Post)

 

| U.S. v. Michael T. Flynn |

Lieutenant General Michael T. Flynn (Ret.), of Alexandria, Va., pleaded guilty on Dec. 1, 2017, to making false statements to FBI agents, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001.

Role: campaign adviser; surrogate; senior member of presidential transition team; National Security Advisor

Status: cooperating witness (plea agreement)

Statement of the Offense: https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

- '... falsely stated that he did not ask Russia's Ambassador to the United States [Sergey Kislyak] to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia.'

- '... falsely stated that he did not remember a follow-up conversation in which the Russian Ambassador stated that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of Flynn's request.'

- 'In truth and in fact, however, Flynn then and there knew that the following had occurred:

On or about December 28, 2016, then-President Barack Obama signed Executive Order 13757, which was to take effect the following day. The executive order announced sanctions against Russia in response to that government's actions intended to interfere with the 2016 presidential election...'

- Flynn calls Russian ambassador, tells him to chill about the sanctions and only respond in a reciprocal manner. Putin relases a statement the next day indicating they would not take action. Russian ambassador calls Flynn next day and confirms they chose not to retaliate in response to Flynn's request.

-Also charged with making false statements regarding 'Request that Foreign Officials Vote Against or Delay a United Nations Security Council Resolution' & 'contacts with foreign governments' regarding FARA filing related to Flynn Intel Group, Inc.

More (links):

- Michael Flynn's Russia Timeline (FactCheck.org)

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| U.S. v. Richard Pinedo |

Richard Pinedo, of Santa Paula, Calif., pleaded guilty on Feb. 12, 2018, to identity fraud, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1028.

Role: not affiliated with campaign; unwittingly sold some shit to Russians

Statement of the Offense: https://www.justice.gov/file/1035547/download

- 'operated an online service called "Auction Essistance"... offered a variety of services designed to circumvent the security features of large online digital payment companies...'

More (links):

- Who is the California man who just pleaded guilty to unwittingly aiding Russian interference in the 2016 election (LA Times)

 

| U.S. v. Internet Research Agency |

A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment on Feb. 16, 2018, against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities accused of violating U.S. criminal laws in order to interfere with U.S. elections and political processes. The indictment charges all of the defendants with conspiracy to defraud the United States, three defendants with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, and five defendants with aggravated identity theft.

Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

Per Wikipedia:

- Also known as Glavset, the Trolls from Olgino, or kremlebots

- Russian company based in Saint Petersburg

- Engaged in online influence operations on behalf of Russian business and political interests

- Described as 'troll farm financed by Putin ally with ties to Russian intelligence services, with some trolls having previously been used to advocate online for pro-Russia causes in Ukraine' from the Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections report (January 2017 U.S. Intelligence Community)

More (links):

- The Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Backbone of the Internet Research Agency and Manafort Indictments (Wheeler)

- About That Russia Indictment: Robert Mueller's Legal Theory and Where It Takes Him Next (Lawfare Blog)

- The Agency - Adrian Chen's [thorough] NYT piece on the group from June 2015

- What Mueller’s Indictment Reveals About Russia’s Internet Research Agency (The New Yorker) - Chen's follow-up to his 2015 work in light of the 2018 indictment; writes that agency was a project undertaken independently 'in order to curry favor with Putin', and points out the lack of a direct Putin connection detailed in the indictment.

 

| U.S. v. Alex van der Zwaan |

Alex van der Zwaan, of London, pleaded guilty on Feb. 20, 2018, to making false statements to FBI agents, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001.

Role: Skadden Arps attorney; worked with Paul Manafort & Rick Gates

Status: not cooperating (plea agreement); sentenced to 30 days in prison followed by two months of supervised release; fined 20 racks ($20,000)

Per Wikipedia:

- '... was one of the eight attorneys who worked on Skadden Arps's 2012 report, commissioned by the government of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych via Paul Manafort, that defended the prosecution, conviction and imprisonment of Yanukovych's rival, the country’s former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko.'

- '... as part of Manafort's and Rick Gates's lobbying effort to improve Yanukovych's reputation in the United States, Van der Zwaan took an advance copy of the report in late July or early August of 2012, without authorization, and provided it to a public-relations firm working for the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice—with one aim being to get the report published in The New York Times—and in September 2012 provided Gates with talking points about the report.'

- '... He was charged with having lied about the timing and nature of his last communications with Gates and an unidentified Ukrainian-based long-term associate of Manafort described as "Person A", later identified by the New York Times as Konstantin Kilimnik.'

- '... Van der Zwaan acknowledged to special counsel investigators in an interview that Gates had told him of Person A's ties to the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU), a Russian military intelligence agency.'

Statement of the Offense: https://www.justice.gov/file/1036406/download

More (links):

- Alex van der Zwaan: "Gone Native" (Wheeler) - A look at details revealed in court filings related to Konstantin Kilimnik

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| U.S. v. Richard W. Gates III |

Richard W. Gates III, 45, of Richmond, Va., pleaded guilty on Feb. 23, 2018, to a superseding criminal information that includes: count one of the indictment, which charges conspiracy against the United States, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 371 (which includes conspiracy to violate 26 U.S.C. 7206(1), 31 U.S.C. 5312 and 5322(b), and 22 U.S.C. 612, 618(a)(1), and 618(a)(2)), and a charge of making false statements to the Special Counsel’s Office and FBI agents, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001. A status report with regard to sentencing was scheduled for May 14, 2018.

Role: deputy to campaign manager Paul Manafort - described as #2 in campaign during and after Manafort's tenure; deputy chairman of the Donald Trump Inaugural Committee; political consultant & lobbyist

Status: cooperating witness (plea agreement)

Original Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1038391/download

Superseding Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1038796/download

 

| U.S. v. Paul J. Manafort, Jr. |

 A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned a superseding indictment on Feb. 23, 2018, against Paul J. Manafort, Jr., 68, of Alexandria, Va. The superseding indictment contains five counts: conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, and false statements.

Role: campaign manager (June through August 2016)

Status: July 10, 2018 trial date (Virginia) & September 17, 2018 (D.C.)

Original Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1038391/download

Superseding Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1038741/download

More (links):

- The Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Backbone of the Internet Research Agency and Manafort Indictments (Wheeler)

- About That Russia Indictment: Robert Mueller's Legal Theory and Where It Takes Him Next (Lawfare Blog)

- Paul Manafort: American Hustler (The Atlantic) - detailed, must-read profile of Manafort. 'The Plot Against America: Decades before he ran the Trump campaign, Paul Manafort's pursuit of foreign cash and shady deals laid the groundwork for the corruption of Washington.' If we can trust the author performed his due diligence -- this is necessary material to understand why everything related to Manafort is so important. OG thread on this here.

- Government's Response in Opposition to Motion to Dismiss - important justification for the special counsel in response to Manafort's challenge to their authority.

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| U.S. v. Viktor Borisovich Netyksho, et al (1:18-cr-215, District of Columbia) |

A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment on July 13, 2018, against 12 Russian nationals for their alleged roles in computer hacking conspiracies aimed at interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections. The indictment charges 11 of the defendants with conspiracy to commit computer crimes, eight counts of aggravated identity theft, and conspiracy to launder money. Two defendants are charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes.

Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

- Charges 12 GRU officers with a conspiracy to commit an offense against the U.S., aggravated identity theft, and a conspiracy to launder money.

- Alleges DCLeaks and Guccifer 2.0 fronts created and operated by GRU.

More:

-de Volkskrant reporting on Dutch intelligence service (AIVD) monitoring and providing to the FBI Cozy Bear activities.

-Crowd Strike reporting & analysis on DNC intrusion: https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

 

U.S. v. Roger Jason Stone, Jr. (1:19-cr-18, District of Columbia)

Roger Jason Stone, Jr., 66, of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, was arrested in Fort Lauderdale on Jan. 25, 2019, following an indictment by a federal grand jury on Jan. 24, 2019, in the District of Columbia. The indictment, which was unsealed upon arrest, contains seven counts: one count of obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of false statements, and one count of witness tampering.

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Other documents:

- Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections (January 6, 2017)

-Senate Select Committee on Intelligence ICA Assessment (July 3, 2018)

-House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence: Report on Russian Active Measures (March 22, 2018)

-House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence: Minority Views (March 26, 2018)

-Exposing Russia’s Effort to Sow Discord Online: The Internet Research Agency and Advertisements

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*Twitter Feeds*

@AlanDersh - Alan Dershowitz. Lawyer. Harvard Law professor. Russia skeptic. Critical voice on special counsel and primary source of defense arguments in response to talk of obstruction of justice, collusion, and so on.

@ChuckRossDC - Reporter at The Daily Caller covering investigation and related matters. Critical & mostly dealing directly with the facts.

@emptywheel -  Independent journalist covering civil liberties & national security. Extensive experience with high-profile government related court cases (Scooter Libby case during Bush/Cheney administration). Extrapolates possibilities based on analysis of available legal information. Hands down the most interesting, detailed, and careful commentator on the investigation (imho).

@ggreenwald - journalist @ The Intercept. Snowden. Russia skeptic. Critical voice for all things related to U.S. intelligence agencies. Media critic.

@LouiseMensch - Unhinged whackjob. Always has a secret source. Never has correct information. Meets hooplehead standard and may be one of the primary commentators for the mentally ill. I understand that some of you prefer that kind of thing.

@maggieNYT - MSM queen. One of the NYT reporters who will be fed information from anonymous sources (Mueller witnesses; Trump's defense team; etc.). Useful.

#Qanon - The Great Awakening. The Storm is Coming. Follow the White Rabbit. Can see into the future. Reader of minds. Trump camp insider. Writes in secret code. Latest news on Hillary's work at witch covens. Alternate reality.

@realDonaldTrump - 45 - official. Unfiltered Tweet spasms. Tactical maneuvering. Fireside chats for 2018 attention-spans. Misinformation. Sacred truth. Slayer of fake news. Insult originator. Potential for live-firing of AG, acting AG, and the special counsel.

@SethAbramson - Describes himself as 'Attorney. Professor. Legal and political analyst'. May or may not be a conspiracy theorist. Summertime scarf-wearer. Bleeding heart. Mr. Controversial. Hated by most left-leaning journalists for his willingness to speculate on anything with reckless abandon. Connector of dots.

Disclaimer: Seth isn't a trusted source. I think he gets ahead of himself too often. He will fucking completely nail a breakdown of things at times though. His thread on Erik Prince's testimony showed some real chops and proved to be on the money once George Nader-related reports came out about his Seychelles meeting. Read with caution.

@wikileaks - They open governments. Possible independent intelligence outfit. Counter-views via Twitter related to investigation. Questionable support of conspiracy theories and fringe media during 2016 presidential campaign. Source of controversy related to potential collaborations on Hillary Clinton/DNC/Podesta data dumps. Must-read material.

@ZoeTillman - Buzzfeed reporter covering courts and justice. Always the first to post updated court filings (the best source of information) related to the case.

 

*Food for Thought*

- Presumption of innocence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence#Meaning

- " ...Robert Mueller's attackers are virtually all political operatives & ideologues. They have always been the swamp; he has always been the oasis. But I would caution liberal ideologues also - he is not your savior; he's just a lawman. Respect his findings, whatever they are." - Preet Bharara

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All this smoke is obscuring the acts of collusion and obstruction of justice

Anyway. That Paul Manafort article in the Atlantic is an awesome read.
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pulsar - All this smoke is obscuring the acts of collusion and obstruction of justice

Anyway. That Paul Manafort article in the Atlantic is an awesome read.

The acts of collusion are smokey. That smoke will lead to a fire if we see indictments detailing it, but we can only speculate. 

The two articles on the Conspiracy Against the U.S. linked under the Manafort and IRA indictments (above) propose the possibility that those charges will lay the groundwork for “collusion” charged as conspiracy similar to how it functions in those indictments. 

The Wheeler links under Papadopoulos on his communication timeline and possible signaling are worth a read re: coordination with Russia too.

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Fuck it.  In. 

4/6/18 4:58 AM
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But but but it's all bullshit huh 

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Sub

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Trump's sizable lead will surely EVAPORATE now!

IN PEACH!
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You are one hard working fool. Lol

 

Who died and made you HNIC anyway?

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Pumpkin Spice Lazarus -
pulsar - All this smoke is obscuring the acts of collusion and obstruction of justice

Anyway. That Paul Manafort article in the Atlantic is an awesome read.

The acts of collusion are smokey. That smoke will lead to a fire if we see indictments detailing it, but we can only speculate. 

The two articles on the Conspiracy Against the U.S. linked under the Manafort and IRA indictments (above) propose the possibility that those charges will lay the groundwork for “collusion” charged as conspiracy similar to how it functions in those indictments. 

The Wheeler links under Papadopoulos on his communication timeline and possible signaling are worth a read re: coordination with Russia too.

If mueller keeps expanding the scope of his investigation like he has been over the last year, hes bound to find something. Whether or not that actually has to do with collusion has yet to be seen

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Lots of lying and indictments for a "fake" investigation, eh.

Good thread, PSL.
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TheDorkKnight -
Pumpkin Spice Lazarus -
pulsar - All this smoke is obscuring the acts of collusion and obstruction of justice

Anyway. That Paul Manafort article in the Atlantic is an awesome read.

The acts of collusion are smokey. That smoke will lead to a fire if we see indictments detailing it, but we can only speculate. 

The two articles on the Conspiracy Against the U.S. linked under the Manafort and IRA indictments (above) propose the possibility that those charges will lay the groundwork for “collusion” charged as conspiracy similar to how it functions in those indictments. 

The Wheeler links under Papadopoulos on his communication timeline and possible signaling are worth a read re: coordination with Russia too.

If mueller keeps expanding the scope of his investigation like he has been over the last year, hes bound to find something. Whether or not that actually has to do with collusion has yet to be seen

How about the emails showing representatives of Russia met with Trump's senior campaign team for the purpose of giving dirt on Clinton. And then the following day Trump said in a speech he would be released dirt on Clinton and then they all denied the meeting ever happened. Does that count?
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In

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In for the lulz

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FaceToFace -

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"He'll be gone in weeks"

 

- Every liberal since 2016.

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Pedro Navaja - Lots of lying and indictments for a "fake" investigation, eh.

Good thread, PSL.

LOL

"Pedro Navaja"

Who do you trust OG?

Stop begging for attention

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It's a MAGAKAG megathread yall

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The democrat sour grape nothingburger thread. Brought to you by a concerned non US citizen.


Wait...POS OP isn't even American?

Born and bred — midwest. Caucasian male. 30s. No scarves in the summertime. Like to use ‘mate’ and ‘aye’. Don’t be fooled. 

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WalMart Shoes -

You left some stuff out of Weissman's resume.

Focusing on it as a criminal investigation. Think of how people might have followed the OJ Simpson case or something. 

All flak, deflection, political considerations, etc. will come from others. 

Linked Dershowitz’ twitter as the primary, legitimate legal voice against the special counsel. Also included Glenn Greenwald who keeps the Russia hysteria and media coverage in check. 

& Qanon and Louise Mensch will cover the alternate reality angles.