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12 days ago
5/13/05
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Can Election Polls Be Trusted?

12 days ago
2/9/09
Posts: 14545

Im a Trump fan, but this site is thinking Trump takes this easy. I don't see that happening at all. 

12 days ago
9/19/13
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popcornkilldya -

Hard to believe but damn it i hope so. 

Only hard to believe because fake news runs 20 articles per day saying Biden's polls Biden's polls

12 days ago
1/1/01
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Bend The Knee - 

Im a Trump fan, but this site is thinking Trump takes this easy. I don't see that happening at all. 


I don't as well
12 days ago
1/1/01
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cyberc92 - 
TheDecider -
GoDieInACarWreck -
cyberc92 -

I am a registered Dem and will probably sit this one out. I posted in another thread that a pollster knocked at my house a few hours ago to ask me who I was voting for and I said I disliked both parties. He told me that he had been getting the same sentiment throughout his day and that although he was a registered Dem like me that he was thinking of sitting out as well. He said some of the other houses that opened the door to speak to him told him that everything leading up to the election made them dislike Biden to the point that they won't vote for him but their dislike for Trump won't allow them to vote for him either. 

 

All that said, I believe Biden wins unless a huge amount of people just stay at home.

What makes you think Biden wins?

Trump has historic unfavorable numbers.

If Trump does win then the polls and media forever are tarnished. I really believe that this time they are trying to be as accurate as possible to save face from any fallout. A Trump win would be a death knell for the MSM and polls as now we know people are witholding information to accurately extrapolate numbes or flat out lying to the polls. 


Same shit as last election. I mean what source can we even trust?
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1/1/01
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cyberc92 - 
TheDecider -
GoDieInACarWreck -
cyberc92 -

I am a registered Dem and will probably sit this one out. I posted in another thread that a pollster knocked at my house a few hours ago to ask me who I was voting for and I said I disliked both parties. He told me that he had been getting the same sentiment throughout his day and that although he was a registered Dem like me that he was thinking of sitting out as well. He said some of the other houses that opened the door to speak to him told him that everything leading up to the election made them dislike Biden to the point that they won't vote for him but their dislike for Trump won't allow them to vote for him either. 

 

All that said, I believe Biden wins unless a huge amount of people just stay at home.

What makes you think Biden wins?

Trump has historic unfavorable numbers.

If Trump does win then the polls and media forever are tarnished. I really believe that this time they are trying to be as accurate as possible to save face from any fallout. A Trump win would be a death knell for the MSM and polls as now we know people are witholding information to accurately extrapolate numbes or flat out lying to the polls. 

 

lol, the Dems just spent 3 years pushing a bullshit Russiagate hoax and are still doing so after getting exposed.  They impeached Trump accusing him of doing what Joe Biden is on tape *bragging* about doing.  I assure you no one is worried about the loss of credibility of the polls.

 

"A Trump win would be a death knell for the MSM"

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I respectfully disagree.  MSM's ratings are built around Trump.  They would be lost without him.  While most of them would not admit it, they are privately praying for a Trump victory.  If sleepy Joe wins, they are fucked.  What are they going to talk about 24 hours per day?  No one is going to tune in to see a news anchor talk about Joe Biden.

12 days ago
5/13/05
Posts: 7604
Soup and Beer -
cyberc92 - 
TheDecider -
GoDieInACarWreck -
cyberc92 -

I am a registered Dem and will probably sit this one out. I posted in another thread that a pollster knocked at my house a few hours ago to ask me who I was voting for and I said I disliked both parties. He told me that he had been getting the same sentiment throughout his day and that although he was a registered Dem like me that he was thinking of sitting out as well. He said some of the other houses that opened the door to speak to him told him that everything leading up to the election made them dislike Biden to the point that they won't vote for him but their dislike for Trump won't allow them to vote for him either. 

 

All that said, I believe Biden wins unless a huge amount of people just stay at home.

What makes you think Biden wins?

Trump has historic unfavorable numbers.

If Trump does win then the polls and media forever are tarnished. I really believe that this time they are trying to be as accurate as possible to save face from any fallout. A Trump win would be a death knell for the MSM and polls as now we know people are witholding information to accurately extrapolate numbes or flat out lying to the polls. 

 

lol, the Dems just spent 3 years pushing a bullshit Russiagate hoax and are still doing so after getting exposed.  They impeached Trump accusing him of doing what Joe Biden is on tape *bragging* about doing.  I assure you no one is worried about the loss of credibility of the polls.

 

"A Trump win would be a death knell for the MSM"

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I respectfully disagree.  MSM's ratings are built around Trump.  They would be lost without him.  While most of them would not admit it, they are privately praying for a Trump victory.  If sleepy Joe wins, they are fucked.  What are they going to talk about 24 hours per day?  No one is going to tune in to see a news anchor talk about Joe Biden.

I see what you are saying but I think the MSM will just continue to talk about Trump. What did Trump eat for breakfast? Is Trump going to jail? Will Trump move? Who is Trump cheating on Melania with now? The MSM would just be tabloid fodder.

12 days ago
9/22/16
Posts: 21834
Something doesn't add up. Biden is supposedly leading by double-digits nationwide, yet his rallies draw... tens of people? Sometimes less? Trump is giving speeches to tens of thousands in swing states, and Biden is hiding in his basement.

Something's got to give.
12 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 14956

To the people that voted, how long did you wait in line? There was a booth by our Target store. Was in line for 2 hours, I’ve heard in some areas up to 5 hours

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9/20/19
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AnthonyWeiner - Something doesn't add up. Biden is supposedly leading by double-digits nationwide, yet his rallies draw... tens of people? Sometimes less? Trump is giving speeches to tens of thousands in swing states, and Biden is hiding in his basement.

Something's got to give.

What the fuck is up with you guys and your obsession with rallies? Who the fuck goes to rallies? None of you guys go, so stfu. Why do you act like it’s this meaningful barometer when there’s a fucking pandemic going on and the Biden campaign has made it clear since the spring there would be no rallies or public gatherings if there was a lockdown going on? 

I know you really really want your guy to win, but making shit up isn’t helping. 

12 days ago
9/10/10
Posts: 5322
Silhouette -

Purely anecdotal but a ton of people voting for the first time on my social media stuff, immigrants, people I grew up with, college friends as well.

 

They all voted trump. Some of them are even left leaning.  One Venezuelan friend said paraphrasing "I'm quite liberal but democrats are supporting the policies that ruined Venezuela #maga" my Cuban friends all feel the same way huge trump fans

I got 150 to 2 Trump over biden on who likes whos page

I had tons for obama back in the day

60/40 republican dem

 

12 days ago
9/10/10
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Most liberal girls I know voting for jo jorgenson

12 days ago
1/1/01
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kyleburkle -
Silhouette -

Purely anecdotal but a ton of people voting for the first time on my social media stuff, immigrants, people I grew up with, college friends as well.

 

They all voted trump. Some of them are even left leaning.  One Venezuelan friend said paraphrasing "I'm quite liberal but democrats are supporting the policies that ruined Venezuela #maga" my Cuban friends all feel the same way huge trump fans

I got 150 to 2 Trump over biden on who likes whos page

I had tons for obama back in the day

60/40 republican dem

 

Yea crossing fingers here 

12 days ago
7/12/15
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Huggsbear -
cyberc92 -

Isn't 538 just a liberal news mouthpiece for ESPN?

Obviously Biden is ahead in the national polling data currently, not really newsworthy.

Most of the video in the OP is about Nate Silver's tweets

12 days ago
6/5/05
Posts: 41747
AnthonyWeiner - Something doesn't add up. Biden is supposedly leading by double-digits nationwide, yet his rallies draw... tens of people? Sometimes less? Trump is giving speeches to tens of thousands in swing states, and Biden is hiding in his basement.

Something's got to give.

Trump is entertainment. People go to his rallies to cheer and boo. It seems like a fun time if thats your thing. Like pro wrestling or a monster truck rally. 
 

Bidens town tall beat trumps in the ratings.  Not sure what that means cuz you couldnt pay me to watch either  

12 days ago
3/21/07
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Silhouette -

Purely anecdotal but a ton of people voting for the first time on my social media stuff, immigrants, people I grew up with, college friends as well.

 

They all voted trump. Some of them are even left leaning.  One Venezuelan friend said paraphrasing "I'm quite liberal but democrats are supporting the policies that ruined Venezuela #maga" my Cuban friends all feel the same way huge trump fans

I work with refugee Venezuelans. Not sure if they have full citizenship as they are in green card/ refuge stage. All great people. Very hard workers. They like trump because they know what leffty/ socialism did to their country. I have a 65 year old man working his ads off in Florida heat everyday. Arrived in January, hardly understands the language, but he has grit. He lost his very successful real estate business in Caracas. I have lots of empathy for him. He sucked as a learner for the job but he tried harder rhan any 19 year old there. I took him under my wing because no one can put them in his shoes for just 5 minutes and understand he is a man to has a family to feed. He was my hardest trainee. I told him I admired his will to work even though 10% of my day for 6 months was checking on him and making sure he was doing this right and taking plenty of water breaks. After 6 months of frustrating yet rewarding training, he and I, are now good friends. He also got a good raise that I vouched for. He taught me a lot about understanding that people need help. I was there to help him. Now he is one of the best workers in the company. 

12 days ago
3/21/07
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^ not editing spelling. FAT FUCKING FINGERS

 

11 days ago
11/20/13
Posts: 11350
jujigatame1981 -
Silhouette -

Purely anecdotal but a ton of people voting for the first time on my social media stuff, immigrants, people I grew up with, college friends as well.

 

They all voted trump. Some of them are even left leaning.  One Venezuelan friend said paraphrasing "I'm quite liberal but democrats are supporting the policies that ruined Venezuela #maga" my Cuban friends all feel the same way huge trump fans

I work with refugee Venezuelans. Not sure if they have full citizenship as they are in green card/ refuge stage. All great people. Very hard workers. They like trump because they know what leffty/ socialism did to their country. I have a 65 year old man working his ads off in Florida heat everyday. Arrived in January, hardly understands the language, but he has grit. He lost his very successful real estate business in Caracas. I have lots of empathy for him. He sucked as a learner for the job but he tried harder rhan any 19 year old there. I took him under my wing because no one can put them in his shoes for just 5 minutes and understand he is a man to has a family to feed. He was my hardest trainee. I told him I admired his will to work even though 10% of my day for 6 months was checking on him and making sure he was doing this right and taking plenty of water breaks. After 6 months of frustrating yet rewarding training, he and I, are now good friends. He also got a good raise that I vouched for. He taught me a lot about understanding that people need help. I was there to help him. Now he is one of the best workers in the company. 

Trump is trying to stop those dirty refugees from getting here, and here you are praising one of them. Where do your loyalties really lie?

11 days ago
9/22/16
Posts: 21840
ksacs revenge - 
jujigatame1981 -
Silhouette -

Purely anecdotal but a ton of people voting for the first time on my social media stuff, immigrants, people I grew up with, college friends as well.

 

They all voted trump. Some of them are even left leaning.  One Venezuelan friend said paraphrasing "I'm quite liberal but democrats are supporting the policies that ruined Venezuela #maga" my Cuban friends all feel the same way huge trump fans

I work with refugee Venezuelans. Not sure if they have full citizenship as they are in green card/ refuge stage. All great people. Very hard workers. They like trump because they know what leffty/ socialism did to their country. I have a 65 year old man working his ads off in Florida heat everyday. Arrived in January, hardly understands the language, but he has grit. He lost his very successful real estate business in Caracas. I have lots of empathy for him. He sucked as a learner for the job but he tried harder rhan any 19 year old there. I took him under my wing because no one can put them in his shoes for just 5 minutes and understand he is a man to has a family to feed. He was my hardest trainee. I told him I admired his will to work even though 10% of my day for 6 months was checking on him and making sure he was doing this right and taking plenty of water breaks. After 6 months of frustrating yet rewarding training, he and I, are now good friends. He also got a good raise that I vouched for. He taught me a lot about understanding that people need help. I was there to help him. Now he is one of the best workers in the company. 

Trump is trying to stop those dirty refugees from getting here, and here you are praising one of them. Where do your loyalties really lie?


Was that sarcasm? Trump isn't trying to stop legitimate refugees from entering our country. He's trying to stop economic migrants from abusing our immigration policy.
11 days ago
1/25/04
Posts: 138891
AnthonyWeiner -
ksacs revenge - 
jujigatame1981 -
Silhouette -

Purely anecdotal but a ton of people voting for the first time on my social media stuff, immigrants, people I grew up with, college friends as well.

 

They all voted trump. Some of them are even left leaning.  One Venezuelan friend said paraphrasing "I'm quite liberal but democrats are supporting the policies that ruined Venezuela #maga" my Cuban friends all feel the same way huge trump fans

I work with refugee Venezuelans. Not sure if they have full citizenship as they are in green card/ refuge stage. All great people. Very hard workers. They like trump because they know what leffty/ socialism did to their country. I have a 65 year old man working his ads off in Florida heat everyday. Arrived in January, hardly understands the language, but he has grit. He lost his very successful real estate business in Caracas. I have lots of empathy for him. He sucked as a learner for the job but he tried harder rhan any 19 year old there. I took him under my wing because no one can put them in his shoes for just 5 minutes and understand he is a man to has a family to feed. He was my hardest trainee. I told him I admired his will to work even though 10% of my day for 6 months was checking on him and making sure he was doing this right and taking plenty of water breaks. After 6 months of frustrating yet rewarding training, he and I, are now good friends. He also got a good raise that I vouched for. He taught me a lot about understanding that people need help. I was there to help him. Now he is one of the best workers in the company. 

Trump is trying to stop those dirty refugees from getting here, and here you are praising one of them. Where do your loyalties really lie?


Was that sarcasm? Trump isn't trying to stop legitimate refugees from entering our country. He's trying to stop economic migrants from abusing our immigration policy.

Not sarcasm, but genuine retardation 

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1/1/01
Posts: 52519
HillboFrateTrane - 
AnthonyWeiner - Something doesn't add up. Biden is supposedly leading by double-digits nationwide, yet his rallies draw... tens of people? Sometimes less? Trump is giving speeches to tens of thousands in swing states, and Biden is hiding in his basement.

Something's got to give.

What the fuck is up with you guys and your obsession with rallies? Who the fuck goes to rallies? None of you guys go, so stfu. Why do you act like it’s this meaningful barometer when there’s a fucking pandemic going on and the Biden campaign has made it clear since the spring there would be no rallies or public gatherings if there was a lockdown going on? 

I know you really really want your guy to win, but making shit up isn’t helping. 

 

You are being disengenious.  And I think you know it.

 

Rallies are an indication of the voting public's enthusiasm for a candidate.

Here is one of Hillary's rallies in 2016

 

Here is a Biden rally

You claim it is because Biden says there will be no rally or public gatherings.  Yet we can clearly see he is still having rallies and no one is showing up.

And you can't say it's because the left is aware of the pandemic and is staying away because of it.   If that is true, how does that explain the woman's march that just took place?  There are thousands of them packed in like sardines here

 

11 days ago
3/18/02
Posts: 96998

lol what a fuckin joke

and people wonder why others dont buy the covid BS anymore 

viruses dont descriminate 

11 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 14088

But Trump had a big rally in Alabama cause he needs the votes there....he is gonna get smoked, early voting is heavy democratic and 10x what it has been in prior years

11 days ago
4/19/10
Posts: 7318

Trump is one of the least ‘presidential’ presidents to have ever taken office.

And as crazy as it is, he’s one of the best things that America and the entire western world could hope for in a leader. 

I truly hope you dumb yanks vote to keep him in, or your nation is going to descend even further into corruption, socialism, brainwashing and war. 

11 days ago
4/9/10
Posts: 11475
HillboFrateTrane -
AnthonyWeiner - Something doesn't add up. Biden is supposedly leading by double-digits nationwide, yet his rallies draw... tens of people? Sometimes less? Trump is giving speeches to tens of thousands in swing states, and Biden is hiding in his basement.

Something's got to give.

What the fuck is up with you guys and your obsession with rallies? Who the fuck goes to rallies? None of you guys go, so stfu. Why do you act like it’s this meaningful barometer when there’s a fucking pandemic going on and the Biden campaign has made it clear since the spring there would be no rallies or public gatherings if there was a lockdown going on? 

I know you really really want your guy to win, but making shit up isn’t helping. 

Rallies are a microcosm of the greater political community. For every person that supports a politician enough to go to a rally, there are hundreds, possibly thousands that support enough to vote for him but not waste time with a a rally. 

Its not a perfect indicator but to pretend it means nothing is naive.