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10/30/05
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1/12/07
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Part and parcel.

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1/25/04
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Macron Vows Crackdown on ‘Islamist Separatism’ in France

 

PARIS — President Emmanuel Macron of France on Friday outlined measures designed to rein in the influence of radical Islam in the country and help develop what he called an “Islam of France” compatible with the nation’s republican values.

In a long-awaited speech on the subject, Mr. Macron said that the influence of Islamism must be eradicated from public institutions even as he acknowledged government failures in allowing it to spread.

The measures include placing stringent limits on home-schooling and increasing scrutiny of religious schools, making associations that solicit public funds sign a “charter” on secularism. While these measures would apply to any group, they are intended to counter extremists in the Muslim community.

Under the measures, the widespread practice of bringing over foreign imams to work in France, where they are often accused of preaching an outdated or extreme version of Islam, would be ended.

The issue of the effects of Islamism has been a persistent one in France, amid fears of the kinds of terrorist attacks the country has faced in recent years, putting pressure on Mr. Macron as he faces re-election.

Many of the proposals from Mr. Macron were ideas that had been floated in the past or ones he had already approved. His speech on Friday assembled it all into a comprehensive package that the government is expected to present as a bill in December.

“What we must attack is Islamist separatism,” Mr. Macron said in front of six of his ministers in Les Mureaux, a town northwest of Paris.

“Secularism is the cement of a united France,” he said, calling radical Islam both an “ideology” and a “project” that sought to indoctrinate children, undermine France’s values — especially gender equality — and create a “counter-society” that sometimes laid the groundwork for Islamist terrorism.

But Mr. Macron also recognized that France bore responsibility for letting that ideology spread uncontested.

 

“We built our own separatism ourselves,” he said. For too long, the authorities had amassed largely immigrant populations in poverty-stricken neighborhoods with little access to jobs or public transportation, leading to a “ghettoization of our republic,” he said.

The speech was postponed several times this year as the president searched, sometimes publicly, for the best approach and language. The stakes were high, as the setting indicated: Mr. Macron’s speech and answers to journalists, which lasted nearly two hours, were broadcast live on television and the internet.

Even though official data show steady or declining crime rates over all in France, Mr. Darmanin joined political rivals on the right to denounce what they claim to be the country’s supposed growing insecurity.

Mr. Darmanin began using and strongly defending the vocabulary of the far right to describe a France supposedly “turning savage” — or undergoing an “ensauvagement,” a loaded word used by the right to target nonwhite immigrants from France’s former African colonies.

The tough talk on crime helped set the stage for Mr. Macron’s speech, which is likely to set off fierce debate over the coming months as lawmakers consider the bill. It is also expected to sharpen tensions within Mr. Macron’s party, as the president’s rightward tilt has already alienated its left-leaning members.

“A wide majority of Muslims are only asking one thing: We want a right to normality, to practice our faith without pressure,” Mr. Ettazaoui said.

In his speech, Mr. Macron said that to avoid “illegal schools” run by “religious extremists,” home-schooling would be strictly limited to children with valid medical reasons. Only about 50,000 of France’s more than 12 million school students are currently home-schooled.

Mr. Macron also outlined a series of measures aimed at making the financing and management of mosques more transparent. Most notably, he said that within the next four years a widespread practice that has foreign-trained imams come to preach in French mosques would be phased out in favor of a France-based training and certification system.

He also said the bill would authorize prefects — representatives of the French state at the local level — to overrule mayors who are deemed too accommodating with religious minorities, for instance by allowing women- or men-only hours at public swimming pools.

Yet his speech also addressed a deep-rooted problem in French society: its enduring difficulty to integrate significant parts of its large, nonwhite, Muslim population of immigrants and their descendants.

The political establishment adheres to France’s founding universalist values, which reject public expressions of race, religion and ethnicity. But those ideals have come under increasing strain in a rapidly changing society, and were manifest in recent debates and protests over issues like police violence, race, colonialism and feminism, as nonwhite or younger French looked for ideas outside France, often to the United States.

Even Mr. Macron — who vowed in the aftermath of protests over the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis in May that France would never unbolt statues — acknowledged on Friday that France “is a country that has a colonial past and that has traumas that have not been settled yet.”

 

www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/world/europe/macron-radical-islam-france.html?ref=oembed

12 days ago
1/25/04
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Too late, Macaroni

12 days ago
11/17/10
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"It was bc of trump's anti muslim rhetoric"

12 days ago
1/1/01
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is it too soon to ask what position was the teacher? If there is an openning...just saying
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9/13/12
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https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-12/5-major-atrocities-us-military-history

"A US soldier allegedly left his base in Afghanistan Sunday and went door-to-door shooting Afghan civilians, killing 16 and leaving both Afghanistan and America reeling. While the incident has sparked outrage at home and abroad, this is hardly the first time that members of the US armed forces have been accused of committing atrocities on the ground."

Americans have been slaughtering innocents for centuries, but some of the retarded Americans (like OP) refuse to acknowledge that, and focus on the fractions of crimes committed by looneys here and there.

 

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Oh yeah, let's not forget France's history of war crimes against Muslims. The Sykes-Picot agreement butchered Muslim lands and has been ravaging their lives for 100 years now.

12 days ago
12/5/17
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Ser Ilyn Payne?

12 days ago
9/18/13
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GarlicSauce -

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-12/5-major-atrocities-us-military-history

"A US soldier allegedly left his base in Afghanistan Sunday and went door-to-door shooting Afghan civilians, killing 16 and leaving both Afghanistan and America reeling. While the incident has sparked outrage at home and abroad, this is hardly the first time that members of the US armed forces have been accused of committing atrocities on the ground."

Americans have been slaughtering innocents for centuries, but some of the retarded Americans (like OP) refuse to acknowledge that, and focus on the fractions of crimes committed by looneys here and there.

You are unhinged. Seek help immediately.

12 days ago
11/28/03
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murdered by white supremacists?

12 days ago
4/21/09
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GarlicSauce -

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-12/5-major-atrocities-us-military-history

"A US soldier allegedly left his base in Afghanistan Sunday and went door-to-door shooting Afghan civilians, killing 16 and leaving both Afghanistan and America reeling. While the incident has sparked outrage at home and abroad, this is hardly the first time that members of the US armed forces have been accused of committing atrocities on the ground."

Americans have been slaughtering innocents for centuries, but some of the retarded Americans (like OP) refuse to acknowledge that, and focus on the fractions of crimes committed by looneys here and there.

 

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Oh yeah, let's not forget France's history of war crimes against Muslims. The Sykes-Picot agreement butchered Muslim lands and has been ravaging their lives for 100 years now.

Look great source bro.

12 days ago
6/11/13
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White supremacists?

12 days ago
12/3/02
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Diversity is our strength. 

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5/18/06
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GarlicSauce -

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-12/5-major-atrocities-us-military-history

"A US soldier allegedly left his base in Afghanistan Sunday and went door-to-door shooting Afghan civilians, killing 16 and leaving both Afghanistan and America reeling. While the incident has sparked outrage at home and abroad, this is hardly the first time that members of the US armed forces have been accused of committing atrocities on the ground."

Americans have been slaughtering innocents for centuries, but some of the retarded Americans (like OP) refuse to acknowledge that, and focus on the fractions of crimes committed by looneys here and there.

 

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Oh yeah, let's not forget France's history of war crimes against Muslims. The Sykes-Picot agreement butchered Muslim lands and has been ravaging their lives for 100 years now.

And Muslims have been invading France since the 8th century. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours

 

We can play the historical grievance game, but I'm better at it than you. 

12 days ago
4/15/06
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Must be a right wing militia 

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9/13/12
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GarlicSauce -

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-12/5-major-atrocities-us-military-history

"A US soldier allegedly left his base in Afghanistan Sunday and went door-to-door shooting Afghan civilians, killing 16 and leaving both Afghanistan and America reeling. While the incident has sparked outrage at home and abroad, this is hardly the first time that members of the US armed forces have been accused of committing atrocities on the ground."

Americans have been slaughtering innocents for centuries, but some of the retarded Americans (like OP) refuse to acknowledge that, and focus on the fractions of crimes committed by looneys here and there.

 

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Oh yeah, let's not forget France's history of war crimes against Muslims. The Sykes-Picot agreement butchered Muslim lands and has been ravaging their lives for 100 years now.

And Muslims have been invading France since the 8th century. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours

 

We can play the historical grievance game, but I'm better at it than you. 

One battle that Muslims lost = BEEN INVADING FRANCE SINCE THE 8TH CENTURY

Heh.

12 days ago
1/1/01
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lol at calling a radicalized Islamist beheading someone a "looney here and there", while aligning a radicalized soldier killing innocents with Americans as a whole.

Typical GS logic.

12 days ago
9/23/07
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Goochy Mang - 


White supremicists?

12 days ago
1/1/01
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GarlicSauce -

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-12/5-major-atrocities-us-military-history

"A US soldier allegedly left his base in Afghanistan Sunday and went door-to-door shooting Afghan civilians, killing 16 and leaving both Afghanistan and America reeling. While the incident has sparked outrage at home and abroad, this is hardly the first time that members of the US armed forces have been accused of committing atrocities on the ground."

Americans have been slaughtering innocents for centuries, but some of the retarded Americans (like OP) refuse to acknowledge that, and focus on the fractions of crimes committed by looneys here and there.

 

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Oh yeah, let's not forget France's history of war crimes against Muslims. The Sykes-Picot agreement butchered Muslim lands and has been ravaging their lives for 100 years now.

Well I guess he’s right, the teacher totally had it coming. 

12 days ago
8/31/11
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Didn’t realize Voldemort was back, that’s a bit worrying

12 days ago
11/7/12
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Goddamn Proud Boys! Sick of their shit.

12 days ago
9/8/02
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Was it QANON?
12 days ago
1/2/15
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GarlicSauce -
The Mat Pimp -
GarlicSauce -

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-12/5-major-atrocities-us-military-history

"A US soldier allegedly left his base in Afghanistan Sunday and went door-to-door shooting Afghan civilians, killing 16 and leaving both Afghanistan and America reeling. While the incident has sparked outrage at home and abroad, this is hardly the first time that members of the US armed forces have been accused of committing atrocities on the ground."

Americans have been slaughtering innocents for centuries, but some of the retarded Americans (like OP) refuse to acknowledge that, and focus on the fractions of crimes committed by looneys here and there.

 

----------

 

Oh yeah, let's not forget France's history of war crimes against Muslims. The Sykes-Picot agreement butchered Muslim lands and has been ravaging their lives for 100 years now.

And Muslims have been invading France since the 8th century. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours

 

We can play the historical grievance game, but I'm better at it than you. 

One battle that Muslims lost = BEEN INVADING FRANCE SINCE THE 8TH CENTURY

Heh.

Its blow back 

Now its not relevant? 

12 days ago
12/1/03
Posts: 21205
GarlicSauce - 

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-12/5-major-atrocities-us-military-history

"A US soldier allegedly left his base in Afghanistan Sunday and went door-to-door shooting Afghan civilians, killing 16 and leaving both Afghanistan and America reeling. While the incident has sparked outrage at home and abroad, this is hardly the first time that members of the US armed forces have been accused of committing atrocities on the ground."

Americans have been slaughtering innocents for centuries, but some of the retarded Americans (like OP) refuse to acknowledge that, and focus on the fractions of crimes committed by looneys here and there.

 

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Oh yeah, let's not forget France's history of war crimes against Muslims. The Sykes-Picot agreement butchered Muslim lands and has been ravaging their lives for 100 years now.


Oh fuck off

12 days ago
8/23/04
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Religion of peace.