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8/12/19 10:05 AM
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Trump administration issues new rules to deny green cards for immigrants on food stamps

WASHINGTON (AP) — Trump administration rules that could deny green cards to immigrants who use Medicaid, food stamps, housing vouchers or other forms of public assistance are going into effect, potentially making it more difficult for some to become U.S. citizens.

Federal law already requires those seeking green cards and legal status to prove they will not be a burden to the United States, or what's called a "public charge," but the new rules, made public on Monday, detail a broader range of programs that could disqualify them.

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officers will now weigh public assistance along with other factors such as education, household income and health to determine whether to grant legal status.

Much of President Donald Trump's effort to crack down on illegal immigration has been in the spotlight, but the rule change is one of the most aggressive efforts to restrict legal immigration. It's part of a push to move the U.S. to a system that focuses on immigrants' skills instead of emphasizing the reunification of families, as it has done.

The rules will take effect in mid-October. They don't apply to U.S. citizens, even if the U.S. citizen is related to an immigrant who is subject to them.

 

8/12/19 10:07 AM
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MAGA
8/12/19 10:08 AM
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Common sense legislation, this should really stir up the retards then!

Just why in the fuck would any country seek out and allow immigrants in that are unable to take care of themselves? Where is the net positive in that?

Talk about a planned systematic destruction of the US from within, that is exactly what this has been for decades now and its working like a motherfucker.
8/12/19 10:08 AM
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How was this already not a stipulation?

8/12/19 10:09 AM
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Pugilist82 -

How was this already not a stipulation?

Its amazing that it isn't already.

8/12/19 10:10 AM
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Pugilist82 - 

How was this already not a stipulation?


Crazy because I specifically remember the paperwork asking about financials and how you must be financially capable of supporting yourself. So who knows?
8/12/19 10:34 AM
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Pugilist82 -

How was this already not a stipulation?

Fucking this. 

 

In any case, Trump hitting home runs again. 

8/12/19 10:37 AM
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In to see the Share Blue members response. 

8/12/19 10:43 AM
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Pugilist82 -

How was this already not a stipulation?

Its amazing that it isn't already.


This.

8/12/19 10:51 AM
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hasta jinx

8/12/19 10:52 AM
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camicom - 
Pugilist82 -

How was this already not a stipulation?

Its amazing that it isn't already.


This.

It was,  it just wasn't enforced. But they have added a few things to it. 

8/12/19 10:55 AM
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PelosiesPanties - Common sense legislation, this should really stir up the retards then!

Just why in the fuck would any country seek out and allow immigrants in that are unable to take care of themselves? Where is the net positive in that?

Talk about a planned systematic destruction of the US from within, that is exactly what this has been for decades now and its working like a motherfucker.

Good God this. 

8/12/19 11:10 AM
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KAG.

8/12/19 11:14 AM
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PelosiesPanties - Common sense legislation, this should really stir up the retards then!

Just why in the fuck would any country seek out and allow immigrants in that are unable to take care of themselves? Where is the net positive in that?

Talk about a planned systematic destruction of the US from within, that is exactly what this has been for decades now and its working like a motherfucker.

Because they vote "correctly"

8/12/19 11:17 AM
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I don't understand how ANY non-citizens are able to be on welfare/food stamps?

How is that possible?

If want to be here, you should be able to support yourself and your family.

We have to have some social safety net, but that should be for citizens only.

8/12/19 11:22 AM
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lionsoul -

I don't understand how ANY non-citizens are able to be on welfare/food stamps?

How is that possible?

If want to be here, you should be able to support yourself and your family.

We have to have some social safety net, but that should be for citizens only.

Found the nazi!

8/12/19 11:24 AM
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PelosiesPanties - Common sense legislation, this should really stir up the retards then!

Just why in the fuck would any country seek out and allow immigrants in that are unable to take care of themselves? Where is the net positive in that?

Talk about a planned systematic destruction of the US from within, that is exactly what this has been for decades now and its working like a motherfucker.

Trump is trying to prevent the US collapsing like Western Europe is.
8/12/19 11:29 AM
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Sounds reasonable 

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Pugilist82 - 

How was this already not a stipulation?


Crazy because I specifically remember the paperwork asking about financials and how you must be financially capable of supporting yourself. So who knows?

Not onyl that you've gotta have a "sponsor" who will take care of you in the event you become destitute.  Specifically a line on that contract saying that the sponsor will not allow the immigrant to become a public charge

 

8/12/19 11:31 AM
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lionsoul -

I don't understand how ANY non-citizens are able to be on welfare/food stamps?

How is that possible?

If want to be here, you should be able to support yourself and your family.

We have to have some social safety net, but that should be for citizens only.

You obviously dont live here in california. Illegal Immigrant single mothers are popping out as many kids as they can intentionally to collect subsidies as their sole form of income. Its a huge problem. 

8/12/19 11:36 AM
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  • In 2014, 63 percent of households headed by a non-citizen reported that they used at least one welfare program, compared to 35 percent of native-headed households.
  • Welfare use drops to 58 percent for non-citizen households and 30 percent for native households if cash payments from the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) are not counted as welfare. EITC recipients pay no federal income tax. Like other welfare, the EITC is a means-tested, anti-poverty program, but unlike other programs one has to work to receive it.
  • Compared to native households, non-citizen households have much higher use of food programs (45 percent vs. 21 percent for natives) and Medicaid (50 percent vs. 23 percent for natives).
  • Including the EITC, 31 percent of non-citizen-headed households receive cash welfare, compared to 19 percent of native households. If the EITC is not included, then cash receipt by non-citizen households is slightly lower than natives (6 percent vs. 8 percent).
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lionsoul -
camicom - 
Pugilist82 -

How was this already not a stipulation?

Its amazing that it isn't already.


This.

It was,  it just wasn't enforced. But they have added a few things to it. 

msnbc viewers are still going to lose their minds.

8/12/19 11:41 AM
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This will be called racist

8/12/19 11:42 AM
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lionsoul -

I don't understand how ANY non-citizens are able to be on welfare/food stamps?

How is that possible?

If want to be here, you should be able to support yourself and your family.

We have to have some social safety net, but that should be for citizens only.

While most new legal immigrants (green card holders) are barred from most welfare programs, as are illegal immigrants and temporary visitors, these provisions have only a modest impact on non-citizen household use rates because: 1) most legal immigrants have been in the country long enough to qualify; 2) the bar does not apply to all programs, nor does it always apply to non-citizen children; 3) some states provide welfare to new immigrants on their own; and, most importantly, 4) non-citizens (including illegal immigrants) can receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children who are awarded U.S. citizenship and full welfare eligibility at birth.

https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs

8/12/19 11:46 AM
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