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11/24/20 5:12 PM
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And why would Trump issue a continuance of the order on September of this year if he wasn't going to utilize it?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/text-notice-continuation-national-emergency-respect-foreign-interference-undermining-public-confidence-u-s-elections/
11/24/20 5:12 PM
1/1/01
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On September 12, 2018, by Executive Order 13848, I declared a national emergency pursuant to the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) to deal with the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States constituted by the threat of foreign interference in or undermining public confidence in United States elections.

Although there has been no evidence of a foreign power altering the outcomes or vote tabulation in any United States election, foreign powers have historically sought to exploit America’s free and open political system. In recent years, the proliferation of digital devices and internet-based communications has created significant vulnerabilities and magnified the scope and intensity of the threat of foreign interference. The ability of persons located, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States to interfere in or undermine public confidence in United States elections, including through the unauthorized accessing of election and campaign infrastructure or the covert distribution of propaganda and disinformation, continues to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States. For this reason, the national emergency declared on September 12, 2018, must continue in effect beyond September 12, 2020. Therefore, in accordance with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13848 with respect to the threat of foreign interference in or undermining public confidence in United States elections.

This notice shall be published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress.

DONALD J. TRUMP

THE WHITE HOUSE,
September 10, 2020.
11/24/20 5:17 PM
8/8/13
Posts: 2396

If Trump knew so long there would be fraud involved why did he let it happen in the first place? 

11/24/20 5:20 PM
1/1/01
Posts: 16970
leaot - 

If Trump knew so long there would be fraud involved why did he let it happen in the first place? 


To obtain evidence of it which he could then present to the courts and the people to convince them the election process had been compromised?

Without that, the detractors would have never, ever accepted it.
11/24/20 5:22 PM
8/8/13
Posts: 2398
JitsuGuy -
leaot - 

If Trump knew so long there would be fraud involved why did he let it happen in the first place? 


To obtain evidence of it which he could then present to the courts and the people to convince them the election process had been compromised?

Without that, the detractors would have never, ever accepted it.

How good a job is he doing in convincing the courts with the obtained evidence? 

11/24/20 5:22 PM
1/1/01
Posts: 16971
More evidence but he American haters will discard it. They don't want open and fair elections. They just want their guy to win, no matter what. Doesn't matter what precedence this would set.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.283580/gov.uscourts.gand.283580.7.1_2.pdf
11/24/20 5:25 PM
1/1/01
Posts: 16972
leaot - 
JitsuGuy -
leaot - 

If Trump knew so long there would be fraud involved why did he let it happen in the first place? 


To obtain evidence of it which he could then present to the courts and the people to convince them the election process had been compromised?

Without that, the detractors would have never, ever accepted it.

How good a job is he doing in convincing the courts with the obtained evidence? 


Do you think it's coincidence that the latest two justices he appointed to the Supreme Court have been invovled in ruling on an American election in the past?
11/24/20 5:28 PM
9/15/13
Posts: 335
They just want their guy to win, no matter what


this is 1000% it
as long as trump is gone it doesnt matter if they cheated or the election sure appears compromised

at least obama seemed to win fair and square

if romney beat obama from a bunch of covid mail in ballots we all know how it would have played out

the hypocrisy is INSANE and they wont even or ever acknowledge it
11/24/20 5:29 PM
9/28/03
Posts: 9004
JitsuGuy - 3 vote batches found with Trump getting the majority of those votes in GA, Wayne County unable to certify vote.
NV unable to certify election in 1 precinct with 153k votes.
Poll watchers locked out of counting rooms.
ALL battleground states stopped counting at the same time on election night.
Dead voting in record numbers.
Numerous arrests for voter fraud across the country.
Dominion "glitches" that always favored Biden.
Reversed election results in NH.
Bellwether counties no longer bellwethers for some reason.
GOP voters saying their mail in votes were not counted.
Massive ballot drops with 90-10 or even 100-0 Biden advantage when counting resumed.
Whistleblowers USPS.
300 lawsuits BEFORE election brought by Democrats to force changes in state election laws that paved the way for more fraud.
Election laws not followed.
100 of thousands of change of address votes in GA alone.
Countless statistical anomalies in vote data.
"Curing" of Democrat ballots but no GOP ballots.

No, nothing to see here.

Trump lost fair and square, get over it.

11/24/20 5:30 PM
9/28/03
Posts: 9005
Rob Collins - They just want their guy to win, no matter what


this is 1000% it
as long as trump is gone it doesnt matter if they cheated or the election sure appears compromised

at least obama seemed to win fair and square

if romney beat obama from a bunch of covid mail in ballots we all know how it would have played out

the hypocrisy is INSANE and they wont even or ever acknowledge it

There is hypocrisy on both sides.

11/24/20 5:32 PM
9/30/09
Posts: 10993

7 MILLION “fake” votes!?????. Smh. 
  U sir have been living in an echo chamber. 

11/24/20 5:34 PM
2/19/12
Posts: 8286
I believe there was serious fraud, hopefully trump can prove it or the whole republic is at stake, I see civil war if there is not a clear result
11/24/20 5:35 PM
1/1/01
Posts: 16973
I just find it humorous that people believe it's over despite the Executive Orders Trump created to protect the legitimacy of the vote.


I guess people believe he just created them as a bluff in hopes it would deter fraud.

That's not the case. He knows Conservatives will be destroyed by a Biden presidency. If these politicians worked in tandem with a foreign entity or they themselves did so and took bribes to utilize clearly compromised voting machines and software, there's going to be hell to pay for them.

That EO is real. And the national emergency for it was never called off.

11/24/20 5:41 PM
11/15/04
Posts: 40607

Didnt he order his people to start the transition process?

11/24/20 5:48 PM
8/8/13
Posts: 2399
JitsuGuy -
leaot - 
JitsuGuy -
leaot - 

If Trump knew so long there would be fraud involved why did he let it happen in the first place? 


To obtain evidence of it which he could then present to the courts and the people to convince them the election process had been compromised?

Without that, the detractors would have never, ever accepted it.

How good a job is he doing in convincing the courts with the obtained evidence? 


Do you think it's coincidence that the latest two justices he appointed to the Supreme Court have been invovled in ruling on an American election in the past?

And there you have the real conspiracy...

Trump physically can't lose and he would burn the whole democracy to the ground if it keeps him from losing. He's actually doing it. 

Claiming it's rigged beforehand. He did that before he won in 2016. After he won and after some irregularities unearthed, he appealed against recounts in key states. Because who cares about voting integrity when he wins, right?

He is a child that always got what he wanted. So he's doing what he learned as a five year old to get what he wants, having a temper tantrum.

No evidence holds up in court. Your linked document doesn't prove shit. Just what could possibly be done and listing counties from Minnesota as counties from Michigan. More of the same incoherent wishful "evidence" that doesn't hold up in court.

If the supreme court judges this differently (as in Trump's favor after all the lower courts decide against him), then Trump would succeed in destroying democracy in the US. There would be no point in future voting, because if Republicans lose, they just claim voter fraud, lose in every lower court, get to the supreme court, then they win.

This is not how it should work. 

11/24/20 5:48 PM
1/1/01
Posts: 16974
LiveWire - 

Didnt he order his people to start the transition process?


Remember, the GSA has been terrific, and Emily Murphy has done a great job, but the GSA does not determine who the next President of the United States will be.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 24, 2020




11/24/20 5:50 PM
1/1/01
Posts: 16975
leaot - 
JitsuGuy -
leaot - 
JitsuGuy -
leaot - 

If Trump knew so long there would be fraud involved why did he let it happen in the first place? 


To obtain evidence of it which he could then present to the courts and the people to convince them the election process had been compromised?

Without that, the detractors would have never, ever accepted it.

How good a job is he doing in convincing the courts with the obtained evidence? 


Do you think it's coincidence that the latest two justices he appointed to the Supreme Court have been invovled in ruling on an American election in the past?

And there you have the real conspiracy...

Trump physically can't lose and he would burn the whole democracy to the ground if it keeps him from losing. He's actually doing it. 

Claiming it's rigged beforehand. He did that before he won in 2016. After he won and after some irregularities unearthed, he appealed against recounts in key states. Because who cares about voting integrity when he wins, right?

He is a child that always got what he wanted. So he's doing what he learned as a five year old to get what he wants, having a temper tantrum.

No evidence holds up in court. Your linked document doesn't prove shit. Just what could possibly be done and listing counties from Minnesota as counties from Michigan. More of the same incoherent wishful "evidence" that doesn't hold up in court.

If the supreme court judges this differently (as in Trump's favor after all the lower courts decide against him), then Trump would succeed in destroying democracy in the US. There would be no point in future voting, because if Republicans lose, they just claim voter fraud, lose in every lower court, get to the supreme court, then they win.

This is not how it should work. 


I always find it interesting how people can see the same things and come away from it with a conflicting perspective.

Sorry, but you're on the wrong side of this issue.
Edited: 11/24/20 5:55 PM
8/8/13
Posts: 2400
JitsuGuy -
leaot - 
JitsuGuy -
leaot - 
JitsuGuy -
leaot - 

If Trump knew so long there would be fraud involved why did he let it happen in the first place? 


To obtain evidence of it which he could then present to the courts and the people to convince them the election process had been compromised?

Without that, the detractors would have never, ever accepted it.

How good a job is he doing in convincing the courts with the obtained evidence? 


Do you think it's coincidence that the latest two justices he appointed to the Supreme Court have been invovled in ruling on an American election in the past?

And there you have the real conspiracy...

Trump physically can't lose and he would burn the whole democracy to the ground if it keeps him from losing. He's actually doing it. 

Claiming it's rigged beforehand. He did that before he won in 2016. After he won and after some irregularities unearthed, he appealed against recounts in key states. Because who cares about voting integrity when he wins, right?

He is a child that always got what he wanted. So he's doing what he learned as a five year old to get what he wants, having a temper tantrum.

No evidence holds up in court. Your linked document doesn't prove shit. Just what could possibly be done and listing counties from Minnesota as counties from Michigan. More of the same incoherent wishful "evidence" that doesn't hold up in court.

If the supreme court judges this differently (as in Trump's favor after all the lower courts decide against him), then Trump would succeed in destroying democracy in the US. There would be no point in future voting, because if Republicans lose, they just claim voter fraud, lose in every lower court, get to the supreme court, then they win.

This is not how it should work. 


I always find it interesting how people can see the same things and come away from it with a conflicting perspective.

Sorry, but you're on the wrong side of this issue.

If Trump gets to the supreme court and they rule against him, wluld you accept that there was no widespread voter fraud?

Also, where am I wrong in your opinion? Be specific please. 

11/24/20 6:04 PM
1/1/01
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everyone knows damn well this was the biggest fraud ever its just a matter if they get caught or not .I believe many will.For anyone to say theres nothing fishy is lying.Also the scum involved will be going ot HELL the eye in the sky sees everything

11/24/20 6:12 PM
8/4/08
Posts: 25350
JitsuGuy - Election fraud all over the place and with Conservatives and Conservatism getting systematically silenced on social media, by the mainstream media and now our votes hijacked, he knows we'll be destroyed if he hands over the reigns to the American-hating, radical Democrat party.

It just isn't going to happen. He knew what they were up to and has it all. Don't under-estimate him. He'll be POTUS for another 4 years and many people are very likely going to end up in prison.

He won in a landslide and it's why the election theft became so sloppy. They had to do absolutely everything to switch the outcome. They over-extended and it's all going to come out.

Whether you're for him or not, we don't have a country if we're ruled despite what we vote for. If elections don't matter, we no longer have a country. If our leaders pick our leaders and we don't, this isn't America.

VU

I'm still here El Guapo!
11/24/20 6:12 PM
4/20/20
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Winston Wolf -

everyone knows damn well this was the biggest fraud ever its just a matter if they get caught or not .I believe many will.For anyone to say theres nothing fishy is lying.Also the scum involved will be going ot HELL the eye in the sky sees everything

Lol

 

Stated more accurately

 

"Every trunpanZee feels..." 

11/24/20 6:17 PM
4/21/06
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Balls Mahoney - 
kungfugrip - It's like that fan believing his team is going to make a comeback in the superbowl but the parade is already over

Lol me as a lifelong knicks fan, I can relate to OP and his kind. One day before I go into the ground, the Knicks will win a championship.


I Love You Man

11/24/20 6:22 PM
3/12/18
Posts: 810

This has to be a troll lmao @ trumptards.

 

to be honest I hope you are right and on January 21st they have to pepper spray, hog tie him and drag his fat ass out. 

11/24/20 6:24 PM
1/2/15
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Pumpkin Spice Lazarus -
JitsuGuy - And why did so many Dominion people delete their Linked In profiles?


No, that's not shady at all.

Oooo... the flailing fallacity... the anomaly hunting... the conspiracy mongering... all of the things that helped Trump lose the election. 

Delicious. 

Yeah! 

PSL show em how a conspiracy nutbag should go about these things. 

PSL > Spunq

Always!

 

11/24/20 6:29 PM
2/12/14
Posts: 5257
JitsuGuy - Election fraud all over the place and with Conservatives and Conservatism getting systematically silenced on social media, by the mainstream media and now our votes hijacked, he knows we'll be destroyed if he hands over the reigns to the American-hating, radical Democrat party.

It just isn't going to happen. He knew what they were up to and has it all. Don't under-estimate him. He'll be POTUS for another 4 years and many people are very likely going to end up in prison.

He won in a landslide and it's why the election theft became so sloppy. They had to do absolutely everything to switch the outcome. They over-extended and it's all going to come out.

Whether you're for him or not, we don't have a country if we're ruled despite what we vote for. If elections don't matter, we no longer have a country. If our leaders pick our leaders and we don't, this isn't America.

 

 

Hoorah MAGA. Powell has not backed off of her claims of BOOM. They separated her from the team since she can use separate fundraising for pay. LOL at Libtards who said she got fired because she was making up shit. Big Tall Texas courtroom lawyer. She was wearing snake skin cowboy boots the other day. Got dayum. 

 

KRAKEN COMETH!