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6/12/19 9:04 AM
4/27/18
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Yesterday, lets be friends with russia, and NATO is obsolete.

Today sends more troops to Poland.

Trump is going to get smoked in 2020. 

I voted for him and I will again in 2020. But he is going to lose badly and its not even close.

 

6/12/19 9:05 AM
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Funny I was watching Trump this morning and thinking how great he is. He's coming along nicely. He's funny af. The press secretly love him. The end imo.

6/12/19 9:05 AM
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6/12/19 9:08 AM
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Sorry I'm just doing my sheeping again. Bahhhhh Bahhhh

6/12/19 9:10 AM
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99% of voters don't know about this and don't give a shit.
6/12/19 9:11 AM
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LOL

6/12/19 9:17 AM
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banco - 99% of voters don't know about this and don't give a shit.

Maybe, but if he was going to win it was going to be close.

this is just another thing that adds a a little more to the other sides vote tally. the 1% you say.

Main reasons trump will lose.

1. demographics. More kids turning 18. More college graduates, more naturalized immigrants. (many more). White trump voters are dying each passing year. (this alone is probabaly enough)

2. Florida allowed felons to vote. Most of which will be democratic. I thnk over a million of them. No florida, no trump in 2020.

3. Broken promise after broken promise. Some people will be like fuck it. He is demoralizing his base that actually understands the issues. like me.

4. trump fatigue. Some people just tired of the three ring circus. 

6/12/19 9:20 AM
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FORT TRUMP

 

6/12/19 9:20 AM
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Arguably sending troops to Poland makes armed conflict with russia less likely due to deterrent effect.

6/12/19 9:21 AM
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Lol yikes.

6/12/19 9:24 AM
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camicom -

FORT TRUMP

 

I like how foreign leaders think trump is so simple that flattery will get you a long way.

6/12/19 9:31 AM
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Strangleu - 
banco - 99% of voters don't know about this and don't give a shit.

Maybe, but if he was going to win it was going to be close.

this is just another thing that adds a a little more to the other sides vote tally. the 1% you say.

Main reasons trump will lose.

1. demographics. More kids turning 18. More college graduates, more naturalized immigrants. (many more). White trump voters are dying each passing year. (this alone is probabaly enough)

2. Florida allowed felons to vote. Most of which will be democratic. I thnk over a million of them. No florida, no trump in 2020.

3. Broken promise after broken promise. Some people will be like fuck it. He is demoralizing his base that actually understands the issues. like me.

4. trump fatigue. Some people just tired of the three ring circus. 


You are insane

He goes against Biden he's going to dominate. Biden's whole message is the same tired hyperbolic talking points of how Trump is destroying America.

How's your life going? How's the lives of American's going?


Pretty damn good is the answer...People have jobs, their 401k's are up, property/housing values are up. That's the only thing citizens really know and understand.

Our lives are pretty fucking good right now and have been since he took office......Democrats can't legitimately deny this.
Edited: 6/12/19 9:36 AM
4/27/18
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you arent listening. 

 

demographics alone make it almost if not impossible. 

 

research it a bit you will see. 

 

i wish i was wrong, i hope i am wrong. But chances have to be overwhelming against. Nothing is 100%.

6/12/19 9:38 AM
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banco -
camicom -

FORT TRUMP

 

I like how foreign leaders think trump is so simple that flattery will get you a long way.

It's fun to watch them cater to him like they do.

6/12/19 9:59 AM
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Strangleu - 

you arent listening. 

 

demographics alone make it almost if not impossible. 

 

research it a bit you will see. 

 

i wish i was wrong, i hope i am wrong. But chances have to be overwhelming against. Nothing is 100%.


the only one that might be an issue is florida.

how much have the demographics changed in any of the flyover states?
what about
PA
WI
MI

yes there are tons of immigrants but they are in CA, AZ TX and those states arent changing either way

if the economy is still flourishing in 2020 ( needs a trade deal w china IMO to not fall into recession ) and there is no conflict overseas... How can he lose?


6/12/19 10:03 AM
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He will lose for a variety of reasons.

1.  While he is loved by the loud and proudly stupid half of the GOP, the moderates in the party dont like him.  And Democrats straight up hate him.  He will bring out record numbers of Democrats voting against him.  

2.  The economy was doing well before he came into office. Trumps tax cuts coupled with increased deficit spending has made a bad situation much worse. 

3.  People now understand he can win.  Everyone was all but certain Hillary would win, so they stayed home on election day.  That wont happen again.

 

Recent polls have Trump losing to any of the leading Democrats at this point.  And while polls cant always be trusted, it's not looking good for Trump.  

Edited: 6/12/19 10:08 AM
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Strangleu -
banco - 99% of voters don't know about this and don't give a shit.

Maybe, but if he was going to win it was going to be close.

this is just another thing that adds a a little more to the other sides vote tally. the 1% you say.

Main reasons trump will lose.

1. demographics. More kids turning 18. More college graduates, more naturalized immigrants. (many more). White trump voters are dying each passing year. (this alone is probabaly enough)

2. Florida allowed felons to vote. Most of which will be democratic. I thnk over a million of them. No florida, no trump in 2020.

3. Broken promise after broken promise. Some people will be like fuck it. He is demoralizing his base that actually understands the issues. like me.

4. trump fatigue. Some people just tired of the three ring circus. 

1. The new generation is much more conservative than you think. These are adults that have been able to fact check things their teachers say online for their entire lives and grew up with 4 chan memes. They are still majority liberal, but not as much as millennials were when they turned 18. If this generation doesn't overwhelmingly vote Democrat in the next few elections the US could be red for a while. Depends alot on the economy though.......

2. It's possible, but many felons don't care enough to vote and alot will be in counties that were already gonna be blue anyway like Palm Beach and Broward. It's not like they are gonna make the panhandle purple.

3. People that are informed and part of his base aren't gonna vote for Joe Biden or an even more extreme candidate. Moderates on the fence may be more likely to go Republican if Democratic Socialism is the platform of choice. Most people are idiots too and don't understand the gravity of many of these issues and decisions, so they will cling to things "biased liberal media", "OMG communism!", "facism", "racism" and vote the way they were already voting.

4. You mean media's coverage of Trump fatigue right? People don't trust them and when they see the coverage of the elections and polls predicting a Biden or whoever victory, they are going to try and show them how wrong they are again.

6/12/19 10:05 AM
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Strangleu - 

you arent listening. 

 

demographics alone make it almost if not impossible. 

 

research it a bit you will see. 

 

i wish i was wrong, i hope i am wrong. But chances have to be overwhelming against. Nothing is 100%.


How so?

Because of 18 year olds? That's a silly argument. He's for sure going to pull in more centrists since 2016 based on the fact that instead of the world collapsing, it's done the opposite. The only sure vote against him is the left of left of center and the old time D's from places like MN who are elderly and still think it's the old DFL party. Also, If Bernie isn't the candidate those 18 year olds are going to be pissed, they'll vote third party or not at all.

Because of Florida?

No....He's going to win the same states he won in 2016 and maybe add one in VA. He'll take PA, OH and WI again. Even if he wins every state he did in 2016 except Florida...he still wins with 277.

But my prediction is if he goes against Biden he will annihilate him
6/12/19 10:12 AM
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6/12/19 10:13 AM
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androb -
Strangleu - 

you arent listening. 

 

demographics alone make it almost if not impossible. 

 

research it a bit you will see. 

 

i wish i was wrong, i hope i am wrong. But chances have to be overwhelming against. Nothing is 100%.


the only one that might be an issue is florida.

how much have the demographics changed in any of the flyover states?
what about
PA
WI
MI

yes there are tons of immigrants but they are in CA, AZ TX and those states arent changing either way

if the economy is still flourishing in 2020 ( needs a trade deal w china IMO to not fall into recession ) and there is no conflict overseas... How can he lose?


China will be able to hold out, i think, until after the election.  I think they'd love to see him out of office.  If they hold out, and Trump wins, i thi k they come to the table pretty quickly. 

6/12/19 10:14 AM
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Putin’s puppet sending troops to Poland?

6/12/19 10:15 AM
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The Noose - 

He will lose for a variety of reasons.

1.  While he is loved by the loud and proudly stupid half of the GOP, the moderates in the party dont like him.  And Democrats straight up hate him.  He will bring out record numbers of Democrats voting against him.  

2.  The economy was doing well before he came into office. Trumps tax cuts coupled with increased deficit spending has made a bad situation much worse. 

3.  People now understand he can win.  Everyone was all but certain Hillary would win, so they stayed home on election day.  That wont happen again.

 

Recent polls have Trump losing to any of the leading Democrats at this point.  And while polls cant always be trusted, it's not looking good for Trump.  


"the moderates in the party dont like him."

You are off your rocker....maybe the moderate Republican POLITICIANS don't like him. The people however pretty much have zero issues with him and would take him over any democrat.

What?

The best way to determine economy is GDP growth. Obama had a -2.7 when Trump took office and he turned it into a +1.93

It's been dramatically and demonstrably better
6/12/19 10:37 AM
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The Noose -

He will lose for a variety of reasons.

1.  While he is loved by the loud and proudly stupid half of the GOP, the moderates in the party dont like him.  And Democrats straight up hate him.  He will bring out record numbers of Democrats voting against him.  

2.  The economy was doing well before he came into office. Trumps tax cuts coupled with increased deficit spending has made a bad situation much worse. 

3.  People now understand he can win.  Everyone was all but certain Hillary would win, so they stayed home on election day.  That wont happen again.

 

Recent polls have Trump losing to any of the leading Democrats at this point.  And while polls cant always be trusted, it's not looking good for Trump.  

Bwahaha is this post from 2016 

the economy while not terrible is MUCH better today than 2016. It’s not close 

there is no R that has ever had more support within the party than DJT 

Lol @polls can’t be trusted. Ya think... seeing as how every poll had Hillary winning 

so by your theory if Biden (or any D) is ahead in the polls the way hilllary was ... why would voters turn out when it’s a sure thing that DJT loses 

 

6/12/19 11:08 AM
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I don't understand this "moderates don't like him"

Damn near everyone that identifies as a conservative now is a moderate conservative. There are very few far right people. Also, it was the more right conservatives that didn't like him because he wasn't conservative enough.....he was a Democrat for his entire life, he still isn't a true conservative.

It's would be funny if it wasn't so fucked up how the media has been able to label him as this far right anti-gay racist and it totally worked....people that oppose him actually believe it to be true....and you have people like above that actually believe it's only the far right that support him.

It's crazy
6/12/19 11:15 AM
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CaptainWoody - I don't understand this "moderates don't like him"

Damn near everyone that identifies as a conservative now is a moderate conservative. There are very few far right people. Also, it was the more right conservatives that didn't like him because he wasn't conservative enough.....he was a Democrat for his entire life, he still isn't a true conservative.

It's would be funny if it wasn't so fucked up how the media has been able to label him as this far right anti-gay racist and it totally worked....people that oppose him actually believe it to be true....and you have people like above that actually believe it's only the far right that support him.

It's crazy

No one who likes Trump is a moderate conservative on anything other than economics.

 

You can call yourself what you like, but the fact is that the guy rose to fame amongst conservatives, a movement that's for racists and retards and their overlap.

 

He chose a very anti gay VP, and then apointed far right judges left and right.

 

He's also filled his advisers out with other far right wack jobs like Stephen Miller, Sebastian Gorka, and Mick Mulvaney.

 

In short, you are wrong