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27 days ago
1/7/09
Posts: 5008
Soup and Beer -
TheDecider -
Soup and Beer -
TheDecider -
Soup and Beer -
yabadaba - No matter what happens Trump will say he won IMO.

Does anybody believe there is any circumstance that would result in Trump conceding he lost the election?

And exactly how do you brush over the fact it's already been revealed that the dems are planning to have biden refuse to concede the election regardless of the results?  This strategy came up in that democratic think tank with podesta and repeated by Hillary.  Hillary didn't just say this in a vaccum. It's the DNC plan and they have stated as such. 

Lol...you can’t be serious 

If you are that far behind the national news then Google is your friend. I'm not here to hold your hand and spoon feed you two week old current events. 

Maybe you are not smart enough to tell the difference between what Hillary said and the commander in chief indicating he will not support the peaceful transition of power.  

Apparently you also missed the whole mail in voting fiasco in New York and New Jersey.  And the fact the Dems are planning the same for the entire country.  Which will likely result in no clear cut winner come Nov 4th

Again, at least try to keep up with current events before posting here. 

“There is no evidence that the primary results were tainted by criminal malfeasance, according to a wide array of election officials and representatives of campaigns.”

27 days ago
11/7/12
Posts: 4908
Nytron -
EVspinner -

OP spouting CNN talking poiints I see.  I was at the gym and one of the screens had CNN on, it was pathetic and shameful. 

 

 

"Talking points"? It's literally Trump on video, in his own words.

"This is the most frightening answer I have ever received to any question I have ever asked"

 

LOL!!!! What a fucking dramatic faggot! Hahahahahaha. Tell your bf to chill, Nytroll. Throw on Cuties and have some zimas.

27 days ago
1/27/04
Posts: 14319

At what point do people understand Trump is a danger to our country? 

27 days ago
12/8/12
Posts: 2843
Devin Ratray's gf, WOOF -
Nytron -
EVspinner -

OP spouting CNN talking poiints I see.  I was at the gym and one of the screens had CNN on, it was pathetic and shameful. 

 

 

"Talking points"? It's literally Trump on video, in his own words.

"This is the most frightening answer I have ever received to any question I have ever asked"

 

LOL!!!! What a fucking dramatic faggot! Hahahahahaha. Tell your bf to chill, Nytroll. Throw on Cuties and have some zimas.

Lmao....came her to say this....i saw it live and he was acting like a little kid that had to piss....and look at that tweet..."I" "I" "I" "I've"

 

Wants it to be about him so bad.

27 days ago
1/17/03
Posts: 18881

We need to stop engaging with these troll threads

27 days ago
12/8/14
Posts: 12728

Stop faking, Elias. We know it’s you. 

27 days ago
11/1/06
Posts: 3649
Soup and Beer -
TheDecider -
Soup and Beer -
TheDecider -
Soup and Beer -
yabadaba - No matter what happens Trump will say he won IMO.

Does anybody believe there is any circumstance that would result in Trump conceding he lost the election?

And exactly how do you brush over the fact it's already been revealed that the dems are planning to have biden refuse to concede the election regardless of the results?  This strategy came up in that democratic think tank with podesta and repeated by Hillary.  Hillary didn't just say this in a vaccum. It's the DNC plan and they have stated as such. 

Lol...you can’t be serious 

If you are that far behind the national news then Google is your friend. I'm not here to hold your hand and spoon feed you two week old current events. 

Maybe you are not smart enough to tell the difference between what Hillary said and the commander in chief indicating he will not support the peaceful transition of power.  

Apparently you also missed the whole mail in voting fiasco in New York and New Jersey.  And the fact the Dems are planning the same for the entire country.  Which will likely result in no clear cut winner come Nov 4th

Again, at least try to keep up with current events before posting here. 

Why does the result need to be determined by Nov 4th? That’s not a rule.

27 days ago
3/3/07
Posts: 435
We'll find out soon enough.
27 days ago
1/12/07
Posts: 23341
TheDecider -
Soup and Beer -
TheDecider -
Soup and Beer -
TheDecider -
Soup and Beer -
yabadaba - No matter what happens Trump will say he won IMO.

Does anybody believe there is any circumstance that would result in Trump conceding he lost the election?

And exactly how do you brush over the fact it's already been revealed that the dems are planning to have biden refuse to concede the election regardless of the results?  This strategy came up in that democratic think tank with podesta and repeated by Hillary.  Hillary didn't just say this in a vaccum. It's the DNC plan and they have stated as such. 

Lol...you can’t be serious 

If you are that far behind the national news then Google is your friend. I'm not here to hold your hand and spoon feed you two week old current events. 

Maybe you are not smart enough to tell the difference between what Hillary said and the commander in chief indicating he will not support the peaceful transition of power.  

Apparently you also missed the whole mail in voting fiasco in New York and New Jersey.  And the fact the Dems are planning the same for the entire country.  Which will likely result in no clear cut winner come Nov 4th

Again, at least try to keep up with current events before posting here. 

“There is no evidence that the primary results were tainted by criminal malfeasance, according to a wide array of election officials and representatives of campaigns.”

 

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27 days ago
2/27/03
Posts: 1419
LoveToChoke -
Soup and Beer -
TheDecider -
Soup and Beer -
TheDecider -
Soup and Beer -
yabadaba - No matter what happens Trump will say he won IMO.

Does anybody believe there is any circumstance that would result in Trump conceding he lost the election?

And exactly how do you brush over the fact it's already been revealed that the dems are planning to have biden refuse to concede the election regardless of the results?  This strategy came up in that democratic think tank with podesta and repeated by Hillary.  Hillary didn't just say this in a vaccum. It's the DNC plan and they have stated as such. 

Lol...you can’t be serious 

If you are that far behind the national news then Google is your friend. I'm not here to hold your hand and spoon feed you two week old current events. 

Maybe you are not smart enough to tell the difference between what Hillary said and the commander in chief indicating he will not support the peaceful transition of power.  

Apparently you also missed the whole mail in voting fiasco in New York and New Jersey.  And the fact the Dems are planning the same for the entire country.  Which will likely result in no clear cut winner come Nov 4th

Again, at least try to keep up with current events before posting here. 

Why does the result need to be determined by Nov 4th? That’s not a rule.

 

This is possibility that is being pushed now

https://www.axios.com/bloomberg-group-trump-election-night-scenarios-a554e8f5-9702-437e-ae75-d2be478d42bb.html
 

A top Democratic data and analytics firm told "Axios on HBO" it's highly likely that President Trump will appear to have won — potentially in a landslide — on election night, even if he ultimately loses when all the votes are counted. 

Why this matters: Way more Democrats will vote by mail than Republicans, due to fears of the coronavirus, and it will take days if not weeks to tally these. This means Trump, thanks to Republicans doing almost all of their voting in person, could hold big electoral college and popular vote leads on election night.

  • Imagine America, with its polarization and misinformation, if the vote tally swings wildly toward Joe Biden and Trump loses days later as the mail ballots are counted.
  • That is what this group, Hawkfish, which is funded by Michael Bloomberg and also does work for the Democratic National Committee and pro-Biden Super PACs, is warning is a very real, if not foreordained, outcome.

What they're saying: Hawkfish CEO Josh Mendelsohn calls the scenario a "red mirage."

  • "We are sounding an alarm and saying that this is a very real possibility, that the data is going to show on election night an incredible victory for Donald Trump," he said.
  • "When every legitimate vote is tallied and we get to that final day, which will be some day after Election Day, it will in fact show that what happened on election night was exactly that, a mirage," Mendelsohn said. "It looked like Donald Trump was in the lead and he fundamentally was not when every ballot gets counted."

Animated GIF of a map of showing how the results could change after election night

Data: Hawkfish; Graphic: Axios Visuals

By the numbers: Under one of the group's modeling scenarios, Trump could hold a projected lead of 408-130 electoral votes on election night, if only 15% of the vote by mail (VBM) ballots had been counted.

  • Once 75% of mail ballots were counted, perhaps four days later, the lead could flip to Biden's favor.
  • This particular modeling scenario portrays Biden as ultimately winning a massive victory, 334-204.
  • The methodology, described in detail below, was based in part on polling from FiveThirtyEight in August.
  • The ultimate results may well sit somewhere between these low-end and high-end scenarios and will also be impacted by who actually votes, and how voters' views about their options change over the coming weeks.

The other side: “The news media should get out of the business of predicting the future,” Trump campaign communications director Tim Murtaugh said in response.

Between the lines: Hawkfish is not just trying to educate the public about the possibility that Trump could prematurely declare victory, or try to delegitimize a Biden victory if it took days or weeks to determine.

  • The group is also trying to sensitize state and county elections officials, news and social media organizations, and the courts to the perils of premature results — and to the possibility of Trump and his team applying challenges and political pressure to reject a high share of mailed-in ballots counted after election day.
  • And the group is warning voters that rejection rates for mail ballots are higher than in-person voting.
  • To avoid having their votes thrown out, Hawkfish is advising voters to be extra careful about voting early enough and following all the instructions to the letter — or, potentially, putting on masks and gloves and going early either to safely vote in person or return the mail ballot in person.

Methodology: Hawkfish surveyed 17,263 registered voters in 50 states and DC, July 1-Aug. 16, 2020, to assess who people planned to vote for and whether they intend to vote by mail or in person at a polling place.

  • Responses were filtered for those described as definitely voting or likely to vote and weighted for state and national registered voter demographics.
  • The scenarios assumed votes at polls would be counted on election day itself (Nov. 3). A scenario taking a week to count mail ballots would translate to approximately 15% per day on average.
  • In another scenario, mail ballot counts took four days at 25% per day. For states that have had high vote-by-mail participation rates, Hawkfish assumed they would take two days.

 

27 days ago
9/1/09
Posts: 6969

Meanwhile democrat leaders are calling for an all out war and to burn down America if the election is even close. Lmfao. 
 

Fuck outta here hypocrites. Trump shouldn’t leave office at all. 

27 days ago
8/8/13
Posts: 2260
ThinkMMA -

Meanwhile democrat leaders are calling for an all out war and to burn down America if the election is even close. Lmfao. 
 

Fuck outta here hypocrites. Trump shouldn’t leave office at all. 

Why do you hate democracy? 

27 days ago
11/20/13
Posts: 11174
leaot -
ThinkMMA -

Meanwhile democrat leaders are calling for an all out war and to burn down America if the election is even close. Lmfao. 
 

Fuck outta here hypocrites. Trump shouldn’t leave office at all. 

Why do you hate democracy? 

They love it when Trump tells the constitution to fuck off.

27 days ago
5/18/10
Posts: 13796
TheDecider - 
Brockback Mountain -

This is like asking the QB of a superbowl team "Hey what are you guys going to do when you lose"


Its a dumb question.

Exactly except every president in history has confirmed they will support peaceful transfer in the event they lose.  Trump is again proving himself unworthy of office.

 

 


But the question wasn't "if you lose", it was just "will you commit to peacefully transferring power to Biden".


Why would he commit to transferring power when he hasn't lost?


It's a dumb question designed to scare people like you; if he answer yes he's conceding the election early, if he answers no he's a dictator.


You were duped by a low IQ journalist. Embarrassing.


27 days ago
3/5/13
Posts: 9111
Nytron -
EVspinner -

OP spouting CNN talking poiints I see.  I was at the gym and one of the screens had CNN on, it was pathetic and shameful. 

 

 

"Talking points"? It's literally Trump on video, in his own words.

hahahaha  imagine being that dramatic.  

27 days ago
3/3/18
Posts: 1513
Soup and Beer -
yabadaba - No matter what happens Trump will say he won IMO.

Does anybody believe there is any circumstance that would result in Trump conceding he lost the election?

And exactly how do you brush over the fact it's already been revealed that the dems are planning to have biden refuse to concede the election regardless of the results?  This strategy came up in that democratic think tank with podesta and repeated by Hillary.  Hillary didn't just say this in a vaccum. It's the DNC plan and they have stated as such. 

This is a lie. 

She told him not to concede UNTIL THE FINAL COUNT IS IN. 

Not to refuse to accept the results. 

27 days ago
11/20/13
Posts: 11175
ryunz -
TheDecider - 
Brockback Mountain -

This is like asking the QB of a superbowl team "Hey what are you guys going to do when you lose"


Its a dumb question.

Exactly except every president in history has confirmed they will support peaceful transfer in the event they lose.  Trump is again proving himself unworthy of office.

 

 


But the question wasn't "if you lose", it was just "will you commit to peacefully transferring power to Biden".


Why would he commit to transferring power when he hasn't lost?


It's a dumb question designed to scare people like you; if he answer yes he's conceding the election early, if he answers no he's a dictator.


You were duped by a low IQ journalist. Embarrassing.


Only numbskulls think the reporter was asking Trump to transfer power if he won the election. Anyone with half a brain knows what the question is. So yeah...you may actually have a point with Trump. We know he has less than half a brain.

27 days ago
5/18/10
Posts: 13797
ksacs revenge - 
ryunz -
TheDecider - 
Brockback Mountain -

This is like asking the QB of a superbowl team "Hey what are you guys going to do when you lose"


Its a dumb question.

Exactly except every president in history has confirmed they will support peaceful transfer in the event they lose.  Trump is again proving himself unworthy of office.

 

 


But the question wasn't "if you lose", it was just "will you commit to peacefully transferring power to Biden".


Why would he commit to transferring power when he hasn't lost?


It's a dumb question designed to scare people like you; if he answer yes he's conceding the election early, if he answers no he's a dictator.


You were duped by a low IQ journalist. Embarrassing.


Only numbskulls think the reporter was asking Trump to transfer power if he won the election. Anyone with half a brain knows what the question is. So yeah...you may actually have a point with Trump. We know he has less than half a brain.


Will you commit to stop raping your wife? Yes or No?
27 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 29984
Mutant - 
Mountain Medic -
Mutant -


Ever wonder what those taste like?

Peach face lovebirds they are from sub Sahara Africa but there are releasesd colonist all over Phoenix. They thrive in our climate. 


It's pretty cool that those birds are thriving in AZ.

27 days ago
11/20/13
Posts: 11178
ryunz -
ksacs revenge - 
ryunz -
TheDecider - 
Brockback Mountain -

This is like asking the QB of a superbowl team "Hey what are you guys going to do when you lose"


Its a dumb question.

Exactly except every president in history has confirmed they will support peaceful transfer in the event they lose.  Trump is again proving himself unworthy of office.

 

 


But the question wasn't "if you lose", it was just "will you commit to peacefully transferring power to Biden".


Why would he commit to transferring power when he hasn't lost?


It's a dumb question designed to scare people like you; if he answer yes he's conceding the election early, if he answers no he's a dictator.


You were duped by a low IQ journalist. Embarrassing.


Only numbskulls think the reporter was asking Trump to transfer power if he won the election. Anyone with half a brain knows what the question is. So yeah...you may actually have a point with Trump. We know he has less than half a brain.


Will you commit to stop raping your wife? Yes or No?

Is false equivalency all you have? How pathetic.

27 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 29985
ryunz - 
ksacs revenge - 
ryunz -
TheDecider - 
Brockback Mountain -

This is like asking the QB of a superbowl team "Hey what are you guys going to do when you lose"


Its a dumb question.

Exactly except every president in history has confirmed they will support peaceful transfer in the event they lose.  Trump is again proving himself unworthy of office.

 

 


But the question wasn't "if you lose", it was just "will you commit to peacefully transferring power to Biden".


Why would he commit to transferring power when he hasn't lost?


It's a dumb question designed to scare people like you; if he answer yes he's conceding the election early, if he answers no he's a dictator.


You were duped by a low IQ journalist. Embarrassing.


Only numbskulls think the reporter was asking Trump to transfer power if he won the election. Anyone with half a brain knows what the question is. So yeah...you may actually have a point with Trump. We know he has less than half a brain.


Will you commit to stop raping your wife? Yes or No?

This.

Even acknowledging the question would cause REEEEEEEEEE...
27 days ago
1/9/02
Posts: 54157

he wont commit to answering stupid questions from his opponents media propganda arm.

27 days ago
11/20/13
Posts: 11179
gregbrady -

he wont commit to answering stupid questions from his opponents media propganda arm.

All had to do was say "yes" and all the media would be left with is Trump giving the same answer as other Presidents. I don't understand why he didn't do that, he loves to lie anyways.

27 days ago
1/9/02
Posts: 54158
KeijiKadekawa -
LoveToChoke -
Soup and Beer -
TheDecider -
Soup and Beer -
TheDecider -
Soup and Beer -
yabadaba - No matter what happens Trump will say he won IMO.

Does anybody believe there is any circumstance that would result in Trump conceding he lost the election?

And exactly how do you brush over the fact it's already been revealed that the dems are planning to have biden refuse to concede the election regardless of the results?  This strategy came up in that democratic think tank with podesta and repeated by Hillary.  Hillary didn't just say this in a vaccum. It's the DNC plan and they have stated as such. 

Lol...you can’t be serious 

If you are that far behind the national news then Google is your friend. I'm not here to hold your hand and spoon feed you two week old current events. 

Maybe you are not smart enough to tell the difference between what Hillary said and the commander in chief indicating he will not support the peaceful transition of power.  

Apparently you also missed the whole mail in voting fiasco in New York and New Jersey.  And the fact the Dems are planning the same for the entire country.  Which will likely result in no clear cut winner come Nov 4th

Again, at least try to keep up with current events before posting here. 

Why does the result need to be determined by Nov 4th? That’s not a rule.

 

This is possibility that is being pushed now

https://www.axios.com/bloomberg-group-trump-election-night-scenarios-a554e8f5-9702-437e-ae75-d2be478d42bb.html
 

A top Democratic data and analytics firm told "Axios on HBO" it's highly likely that President Trump will appear to have won — potentially in a landslide — on election night, even if he ultimately loses when all the votes are counted. 

Why this matters: Way more Democrats will vote by mail than Republicans, due to fears of the coronavirus, and it will take days if not weeks to tally these. This means Trump, thanks to Republicans doing almost all of their voting in person, could hold big electoral college and popular vote leads on election night.

  • Imagine America, with its polarization and misinformation, if the vote tally swings wildly toward Joe Biden and Trump loses days later as the mail ballots are counted.
  • That is what this group, Hawkfish, which is funded by Michael Bloomberg and also does work for the Democratic National Committee and pro-Biden Super PACs, is warning is a very real, if not foreordained, outcome.

What they're saying: Hawkfish CEO Josh Mendelsohn calls the scenario a "red mirage."

  • "We are sounding an alarm and saying that this is a very real possibility, that the data is going to show on election night an incredible victory for Donald Trump," he said.
  • "When every legitimate vote is tallied and we get to that final day, which will be some day after Election Day, it will in fact show that what happened on election night was exactly that, a mirage," Mendelsohn said. "It looked like Donald Trump was in the lead and he fundamentally was not when every ballot gets counted."

Animated GIF of a map of showing how the results could change after election night

Data: Hawkfish; Graphic: Axios Visuals

By the numbers: Under one of the group's modeling scenarios, Trump could hold a projected lead of 408-130 electoral votes on election night, if only 15% of the vote by mail (VBM) ballots had been counted.

  • Once 75% of mail ballots were counted, perhaps four days later, the lead could flip to Biden's favor.
  • This particular modeling scenario portrays Biden as ultimately winning a massive victory, 334-204.
  • The methodology, described in detail below, was based in part on polling from FiveThirtyEight in August.
  • The ultimate results may well sit somewhere between these low-end and high-end scenarios and will also be impacted by who actually votes, and how voters' views about their options change over the coming weeks.

The other side: “The news media should get out of the business of predicting the future,” Trump campaign communications director Tim Murtaugh said in response.

Between the lines: Hawkfish is not just trying to educate the public about the possibility that Trump could prematurely declare victory, or try to delegitimize a Biden victory if it took days or weeks to determine.

  • The group is also trying to sensitize state and county elections officials, news and social media organizations, and the courts to the perils of premature results — and to the possibility of Trump and his team applying challenges and political pressure to reject a high share of mailed-in ballots counted after election day.
  • And the group is warning voters that rejection rates for mail ballots are higher than in-person voting.
  • To avoid having their votes thrown out, Hawkfish is advising voters to be extra careful about voting early enough and following all the instructions to the letter — or, potentially, putting on masks and gloves and going early either to safely vote in person or return the mail ballot in person.

Methodology: Hawkfish surveyed 17,263 registered voters in 50 states and DC, July 1-Aug. 16, 2020, to assess who people planned to vote for and whether they intend to vote by mail or in person at a polling place.

  • Responses were filtered for those described as definitely voting or likely to vote and weighted for state and national registered voter demographics.
  • The scenarios assumed votes at polls would be counted on election day itself (Nov. 3). A scenario taking a week to count mail ballots would translate to approximately 15% per day on average.
  • In another scenario, mail ballot counts took four days at 25% per day. For states that have had high vote-by-mail participation rates, Hawkfish assumed they would take two days.

 

maybe we should commit to votiing in person?

no way you can expect ppl to accept this fishy bullshit after weve seen our institutions collapse into partinshap over and over again the last 4 years.

I used to think the FBI was impartial until 4 years ago.

Edited: 27 days ago
1/9/02
Posts: 54159
ksacs revenge -
gregbrady -

he wont commit to answering stupid questions from his opponents media propganda arm.

All had to do was say "yes" and all the media would be left with is Trump giving the same answer as other Presidents. I don't understand why he didn't do that, he loves to lie anyways.

why would he do what you want him to do?

 

sometimes its good to resist everything your enemy does even if it appears innocent.