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Biden is getting trounced with Cuban American voters in Florida and losing the total Latino vote, a trend that could tip the state to Trump

 

Biden is underperforming with Cuban Americans in Miami-Dade, the largest county in the state, as well as with Latino voters across Florida, according to recent polling. The lack of support from Latino voters could cost Biden a win in Florida, which has backed the national winner in every election except one since 1964.

 

Weeks of anxious prodding from Florida Democrats that Biden has taken the state for granted could finally be paying off.

 

Now Biden key allies, notably former New York City Mayor and billionaire Michael Bloomberg, are pledging to expand their efforts and money to help Biden win the state. 

 

The president and Biden are virtually tied in the Sunshine State, according to an NBC News poll, after several polls over the summer had showed the former vice president with a lead over Trump.

The poll also shows Biden actually trailing Trump among Latino voters in the entire state, 46%-50%, a group Hillary Clinton won by nearly 30% four years ago.

A poll of Miami-Dade County voters by Bendixon Amandi also showed Trump with a lead over Biden among all Latino voters. But the survey also found that among Cuban American voters, Trump led Biden by a whopping 38 percentage points. 

Miami-Dade alone represents about 10% of the state’s votes.

Some Democrats also want to see Biden hit back more strongly against Trump's characterization of the party as "radical socialists." The message has struck a nerve with many Latinos who are Cubans, Venezuelans and Nicaraguans, some of whom have fled communist regimes or have family members who did.

 

Ricardo Gomez, a former police officer turned criminal defense attorney in Miami, said his family fought too hard to flee Fidel Castro’s Cuba only to end up with a socialist-leaning administration in the United States.

Gomez, whose father fought in the Bay of Pigs invasion and was held captive by Castro’s forces for seven months, doesn’t believe that Biden and Harris are moderates, but have instead adopted the most radical ideals of the Democratic party.

“They’ve adopted Bernie Sanders, they’ve adopted the AOC model,” said Gomez, referring to progressive Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. “They’re not calling the anarchists in the street burning and looting what they are … street thugs.”

Gomez supports the idea of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid – limited government programs that provide a last-resort safety net for people facing difficult times. But he said a Biden administration would push to vastly expand those programs, allowing people to become dependent on government handouts. And that, he said, strikes fear into the hearts of immigrants from Cuba or Venezuela or Nicaragua.

“The way communists and socialists work is they start taking from the top and distributing, but sooner or later they run out of stuff to distribute,” he said. “Do we want this to become another Cuba? Do we want this to eventually become another Venezuela?"

 

 

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Gonna be a bloodbath.  Fear of loss is a far greater source of motivation than hope for gain. 

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God I hope it’s a fucking ass kicking.  Fuck these commie fucks 

13 days ago
7/15/11
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When I saw Masvidal’s reaction I knew Hiden was royally fucked in Florida.

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mrblonde1281 - 

God I hope it’s a fucking ass kicking.  Fuck these commie fucks 




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12/28/14
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Man, if trump kicks their communist asses, maybe we can all come together as one country, United by a common love of freedom and America and not even ever notice or care about our race ever again. Which I thought was supposed to be the goal of the left all along.

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"The poll also shows Biden actually trailing Trump among Latino voters in the state, 46%-50%, a group Hillary Clinton won by nearly 30% four years ago."


It should scare Trump voters that Biden is able to be competitive in Florida DESPITE seeing the Latino vote totally flipped in Trump's favor. Considering there appears to be a 40 point swing in Trump's favor among Latinos, he should be up 15 points in Florida!! That shows you how poorly he must be doing with every other demographic and what could happen in rust belt states that don't have Latinos.
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All Trump needs to do is remind them how obama fucked them over as he was going out the door. 

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Mail in votes will fuck the election anyway, so polling doesn't matter....

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jcblass -
"The poll also shows Biden actually trailing Trump among Latino voters in the state, 46%-50%, a group Hillary Clinton won by nearly 30% four years ago."


It should scare Trump voters that Biden is able to be competitive in Florida DESPITE seeing the Latino vote totally flipped in Trump's favor. Considering there appears to be a 40 point swing in Trump's favor among Latinos, he should be up 15 points in Florida!! That shows you how poorly he must be doing with every other demographic and what could happen in rust belt states that don't have Latinos.

NBC poll, if they say it’s this close it means Trump is killing it in real life

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Cmon man! If you’re from Cuba and don’t know if you’ll vote for me or Trump, you ain’t Mexican! 

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Latino’s are MAGA!

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I'm in south florida. I had to visit a job site monday that was full of latinos, nothing unusual about that. What did stand out was that one of these guys struck up a conversation about about politics. So I naturally obliged and heard him out. He went on to tell me how important this election was to him and everyone in his community, mostly Cubans & Colombians, and that they were all pro trump and wanted nothing to do with anything that resembled socialism. 

I've also witnessed two separate pro trump rallys here in the past week. Almost seems ironic to what most think but the latino vote will be the difference.  

Trump takes Florida 

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3/1/10
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Cubans hate commies.

 

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Lol at COULD tip to trump. Its been tipped for along time son. Kag. 

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VTCO - 

Cubans hate commies.

 


Weird, huh...?

It's almost like the more actual experience people have with Communism, the less they like it.

Whereas, kids who've only read about it online and have no experience with it, love it.

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I'm in south florida. I had to visit a job site monday that was full of latinos, nothing unusual about that. What did stand out was that one of these guys struck up a conversation about about politics. So I naturally obliged and heard him out. He went on to tell me how important this election was to him and everyone in his community, mostly Cubans & Colombians, and that they were all pro trump and wanted nothing to do with anything that resembled socialism. 

I've also witnessed two separate pro trump rallys here in the past week. Almost seems ironic to what most think but the latino vote will be the difference.  

Trump takes Florida 

Colombians are pretty damn right wing actually.  Probably some of the most right wing in Latin America. They have seen the horrors that have gone on with their neighbor Venezuela and also dealing with the FARC.

One thing that stood out to me in Florida was watching those massive boat parades and other rallies, I was seeing a lot more Latinos than I thought. Saw plenty of Cuban flags being waved with the American flag and remember seeing Venezuelan flags as well.

I expected to see some Latinos, but there were considerably more than I thought would be a normal amount.

 

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Yeah most Cubans and Colombians see first hand what socialism does to a country. Too bad that a large segment of Americans think it’s a utopia. 

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"No no no, you need to trust the nutcase socialists we're shacked up with over here on the D that we're gonna make a better tomorrow for you Latinos well experienced in the joys of socialism"

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Expect a Despacito spike