OtherGround Forums Whaddya do when your back is completely F'd?

5 days ago
2/24/19
Posts: 1209
Morgz -

I bought the DDP yoga DVD’s about 3 years ago and STILL havnt started. I’m Jealous of Passive Jay for actually doing it and getting results. I’ve gotta take the the time and commit. 

A friend bought it after a car wreck. When he finished PT because his Doc actually recommended it. I borrowed it and did it for a few weeks. I quit when my lower back and sciatica cleared up. It was sorta hard to get started but it does work. I just could not stand listening to “Feel the bang “ and such stupid DDP kayfabe stuff. I really should have stuck with it though - pain went away and flexibility improved quite a bit even in those three weeks in the easiest levels. 

5 days ago
3/14/04
Posts: 137854
Brockback Mountain - 
Floppy Divac - 
angryinch -

You stop being a pussy and walk it off.

Of all the people to tell someone to stop being a pussy. Lol


This guy is a walmart worker who probably lifts everything with a team of 5 other low IQ obese people based on walmart safety guidelines.


You sound like a jealous woman.

5 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 39405
VFR -

Spinal?

Sthpinal

5 days ago
11/14/18
Posts: 45
Floppy Divac -

I have no inversion table and we're beyond stretching. My morning and nightly stretching saved me until now. Went a little overboard on air squats Sunday before running around the beach with my little buddy. Back was a little tight Monday morning and has gotten worse through the week. I am going to use the heating pad I should've used that's first night. 

Read healing back pain by John Sarno. It’s a book.

 

also audiobook 

5 days ago
3/18/14
Posts: 3016

Ice it and see a doctor. Then when you are ready you need to really strengthen your core, glutes and hamstrings, stretch your hips and fix your posture

5 days ago
10/31/07
Posts: 6814
rudiger -

Ice it and see a doctor. Then when you are ready you need to really strengthen your core, glutes and hamstrings, stretch your hips and fix your posture

Lol at ice it, dude it’s 2020 read a book

5 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 80204

Ice is not the answer. And my core, hamstrings and glutes have been getting strengthened. My core is definitely not the weak link here. Lol

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8/29/09
Posts: 18511
NineFightFour -
rudiger -

Ice it and see a doctor. Then when you are ready you need to really strengthen your core, glutes and hamstrings, stretch your hips and fix your posture

Lol at ice it, dude it’s 2020 read a book

When I went to see a doctor he said use ice. Quit using heat. That plus anti inflammatories got me good enough to go to physical therapy.  Doing that made my most painful and debilitating episode the shortest recovery.
 

My xrays did not show any disc issues. My problems are related to the muscle group in my lower back and are aggravated when my hip flexors, and hamstrings are tight. When I have an issue I can ice it for 30 minutes and get a tremendous amount of relief to the point I can go from unable to get up without help, to just being a little achy

5 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 80206
Bad Monkey -
NineFightFour -
rudiger -

Ice it and see a doctor. Then when you are ready you need to really strengthen your core, glutes and hamstrings, stretch your hips and fix your posture

Lol at ice it, dude it’s 2020 read a book

When I went to see a doctor he said use ice. Quit using heat. That plus anti inflammatories got me good enough to go to physical therapy.  Doing that made my most painful and debilitating episode the shortest recovery.
 

My xrays did not show any disc issues. My problems are related to the muscle group in my lower back and are aggravated when my hip flexors, and hamstrings are tight. When I have an issue I can ice it for 30 minutes and get a tremendous amount of relief to the point I can go from unable to get up without help, to just being a little achy

My pt suggests heat for that muscle group. As for others. Icing tight muscles doesn't loosen them up. Not saying it didn't work for your situation. 

5 days ago
10/27/03
Posts: 26569

Try Kieser Training. Hopefully they got a place near you.

They specialise in strengthening the lower back and have a couple of specialist machines that are really good.

It feel very odd to start with .... like when you finish the lower back muscles are fatigued like a hard deadlift session, but without any of the other muscle or cns fatigue of deadlifting.

4 days ago
5/9/06
Posts: 31218
Rakoshi -
Morgz -

I bought the DDP yoga DVD’s about 3 years ago and STILL havnt started. I’m Jealous of Passive Jay for actually doing it and getting results. I’ve gotta take the the time and commit. 

A friend bought it after a car wreck. When he finished PT because his Doc actually recommended it. I borrowed it and did it for a few weeks. I quit when my lower back and sciatica cleared up. It was sorta hard to get started but it does work. I just could not stand listening to “Feel the bang “ and such stupid DDP kayfabe stuff. I really should have stuck with it though - pain went away and flexibility improved quite a bit even in those three weeks in the easiest levels. 

That’s good to hear. Hopefully I’ll get inspired to do it. I have that addictive personality, and once I do something and get good results, I typically go all in and become obsessed. I know from an mri about 7 years ago that I have a ruptured disk, and two bulging disks, all potentially putting pressure on or pinching the sciatic nerve. I get the pain down both legs to the calves. PT helped me a lot, but like a dumdum I didn’t stick with it after getting better, and now the pain has returned. 
 

getting old blows. 

4 days ago
12/2/09
Posts: 3368

Lower back by hips? Upper middle? 

4 days ago
3/16/06
Posts: 22026

I use foundation training and see a PT twice a week as maintenance. I've been able to stay active with building discs at L5-S1 and C5-C6. 

4 days ago
10/30/19
Posts: 3739
Floppy Divac -
Bad Monkey -
NineFightFour -
rudiger -

Ice it and see a doctor. Then when you are ready you need to really strengthen your core, glutes and hamstrings, stretch your hips and fix your posture

Lol at ice it, dude it’s 2020 read a book

When I went to see a doctor he said use ice. Quit using heat. That plus anti inflammatories got me good enough to go to physical therapy.  Doing that made my most painful and debilitating episode the shortest recovery.
 

My xrays did not show any disc issues. My problems are related to the muscle group in my lower back and are aggravated when my hip flexors, and hamstrings are tight. When I have an issue I can ice it for 30 minutes and get a tremendous amount of relief to the point I can go from unable to get up without help, to just being a little achy

My pt suggests heat for that muscle group. As for others. Icing tight muscles doesn't loosen them up. Not saying it didn't work for your situation. 

Never ice without immediately following up with heat if it's a sprain, strain or tear.

4 days ago
8/15/17
Posts: 299

I sleep on the floor on a yoga mat for a week or two. DDP yoga's great too.

4 days ago
4/15/06
Posts: 3254

How heavy are you?

I think one of the best (but maybe hardest) things to do is lose weight. Taking 20-50 lbs of pressure off your back makes a huge difference.

4 days ago
11/19/05
Posts: 43427
Pumpkin Spice Lazarus -
Fighting -

It's yoga buddy. It has helped me more then anything on earth.  I'm a power lifter, I tweak, pull and hurt my back all the time.  Yoga saved my life.  

Any resources or good routines you use? I've had lower back pain persistent for the last 3-4 months for the first time ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BOTvaRaDjI

 

 

This is the best to start with. Do this 3+ times a week, boom, no more back pain. 

4 days ago
8/29/09
Posts: 18516
Floppy Divac -
Bad Monkey -
NineFightFour -
rudiger -

Ice it and see a doctor. Then when you are ready you need to really strengthen your core, glutes and hamstrings, stretch your hips and fix your posture

Lol at ice it, dude it’s 2020 read a book

When I went to see a doctor he said use ice. Quit using heat. That plus anti inflammatories got me good enough to go to physical therapy.  Doing that made my most painful and debilitating episode the shortest recovery.
 

My xrays did not show any disc issues. My problems are related to the muscle group in my lower back and are aggravated when my hip flexors, and hamstrings are tight. When I have an issue I can ice it for 30 minutes and get a tremendous amount of relief to the point I can go from unable to get up without help, to just being a little achy

My pt suggests heat for that muscle group. As for others. Icing tight muscles doesn't loosen them up. Not saying it didn't work for your situation. 

That's why I always put heat on it, because my muscles felt really tight.  He explained that it was actually inflamation that caused it to feel like it was tight.  I put the ice on it expecting to be completely locked up and unable to move.  It reduced the pain dramatically, and my ability to get up and around improved.  My biggest problem when my back goes out is re-aggravating it.  It helped me with that as well.  

 

I will say that I know many people with back issues, but I don't know anyone that experiences the exact same issues that I do.  I know all the advice I got from people experiencing back issues did not help me.  Icing, arthritis medicine, and exercising when I wasn't laid up, running, cycling, ect., are what helped me experience less frequent and shorter episodes.

 

  Back pain is terrible,  I hope you find something that works for you.

 

Good luck.  

 

And seriously, lay off the fat chicks.

4 days ago
10/31/07
Posts: 6816
Bad Monkey -
NineFightFour -
rudiger -

Ice it and see a doctor. Then when you are ready you need to really strengthen your core, glutes and hamstrings, stretch your hips and fix your posture

Lol at ice it, dude it’s 2020 read a book

When I went to see a doctor he said use ice. Quit using heat. That plus anti inflammatories got me good enough to go to physical therapy.  Doing that made my most painful and debilitating episode the shortest recovery.
 

My xrays did not show any disc issues. My problems are related to the muscle group in my lower back and are aggravated when my hip flexors, and hamstrings are tight. When I have an issue I can ice it for 30 minutes and get a tremendous amount of relief to the point I can go from unable to get up without help, to just being a little achy

Face palm hard af right now. Ps gp doctors aren’t the end all be all on physical therapy hence why PTs exist. Every pt on earth who’s worth their degree knows icing an injury is only advises immediately. It’s for acute injuries only not chronic. Also stopping inflammation is bad, inflammation is your body rushing blood to an injury, why would you want to prevent that?! Look into Physical therapy recommendations in the last decade or so and you will see ice is a fucking bad idea as is pumping the body full of anti inflamitories, it will help with pain short term but will not help fix the problem 

4 days ago
6/10/08
Posts: 30111

Turmeric and stretching... and ice... and rest.

4 days ago
6/7/05
Posts: 27921
Fighting - 

It's yoga buddy. It has helped me more then anything on earth.  I'm a power lifter, I tweak, pull and hurt my back all the time.  Yoga saved my life.  


This.
4 days ago
10/30/03
Posts: 24109
John Cable -

 

 

ice

This. Ice and hard alcohol to make icing easier. Freeze your skin like meat. Swelling will diminish greatly overnight. Trust me. At least try once. 

4 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 80211
effertime -

How heavy are you?

I think one of the best (but maybe hardest) things to do is lose weight. Taking 20-50 lbs of pressure off your back makes a huge difference.

6' 185ish.

4 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 80212
Bad Monkey -
Floppy Divac -
Bad Monkey -
NineFightFour -
rudiger -

Ice it and see a doctor. Then when you are ready you need to really strengthen your core, glutes and hamstrings, stretch your hips and fix your posture

Lol at ice it, dude it’s 2020 read a book

When I went to see a doctor he said use ice. Quit using heat. That plus anti inflammatories got me good enough to go to physical therapy.  Doing that made my most painful and debilitating episode the shortest recovery.
 

My xrays did not show any disc issues. My problems are related to the muscle group in my lower back and are aggravated when my hip flexors, and hamstrings are tight. When I have an issue I can ice it for 30 minutes and get a tremendous amount of relief to the point I can go from unable to get up without help, to just being a little achy

My pt suggests heat for that muscle group. As for others. Icing tight muscles doesn't loosen them up. Not saying it didn't work for your situation. 

That's why I always put heat on it, because my muscles felt really tight.  He explained that it was actually inflamation that caused it to feel like it was tight.  I put the ice on it expecting to be completely locked up and unable to move.  It reduced the pain dramatically, and my ability to get up and around improved.  My biggest problem when my back goes out is re-aggravating it.  It helped me with that as well.  

 

I will say that I know many people with back issues, but I don't know anyone that experiences the exact same issues that I do.  I know all the advice I got from people experiencing back issues did not help me.  Icing, arthritis medicine, and exercising when I wasn't laid up, running, cycling, ect., are what helped me experience less frequent and shorter episodes.

 

  Back pain is terrible,  I hope you find something that works for you.

 

Good luck.  

 

And seriously, lay off the fat chicks.

Thanks. I'd been doing really well keeping it at bay with religious stretching and exercise. Ironically it was exercise that triggered this bout. And will not lay off fat chicks. Lol

4 days ago
2/4/03
Posts: 9345

Diclofenic or doubling up on naproxen at first sign is important.  PT is mostly bullshit, McGill is good though.

Get an MRI.  Never get a fusion.  Get a replacement or discectomy.