OtherGround Forums Which Industries should be NATIONALIZED???

9 days ago
1/9/19
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INSURANCE(home/health)

 

UTILITIES

 

PRISONS

 

MAIL

 

others?

9 days ago
2/14/10
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Your girlfriend. She's already giving it up to everyone. May as well turn it into a for-profit venture.

9 days ago
4/27/15
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None of them, you commie fag

9 days ago
10/25/06
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Health insurance? Lmfao. That's equivalent to arresting a white person every time a black person assaults an Asian person.

9 days ago
2/14/10
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kneedy -

Health insurance? Lmfao. That's equivalent to arresting a white person every time a black person assaults an Asian person.

In NYC, that's exactly what they think should happen. 

9 days ago
1/9/19
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kneedy - 

Health insurance? Lmfao. That's equivalent to arresting a white person every time a black person assaults an Asian person.


yep, Universal Healthcare is the WAY TO GO!  

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1/9/19
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Black Dougie - 

None of them, you commie fag

 

that "Trickle Down" 80s propoganda kool-aid isn't working any more!  

 

 

Make America Great Again just like WWII GranPa's UNION heavy USA!

9 days ago
1/9/19
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We’ve crunched the numbers – nationalisation would be a bargain

 

public ownership would pay for itself within seven years

 

public ownership have been received with some public enthusiasm – privatisation of these sectors has never been popular. ------

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/09/numbers-public-ownership-uk-utilities-nationalisation

 

some SMART research out of the UK

9 days ago
1/9/19
Posts: 7477

and Uncle Bernie ALWAYS FIGHTING FOR THE PEOPLE of course :)

 

Power to the people: Bernie calls for federal takeover of electricity production-----

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/02/bernie-sanders-climate-federal-electricity-production-110117

9 days ago
4/4/12
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real estate. it is one of the highest priorities. there is a nation wide housing crisis and there is no reason for housing to become a big busineess that can wildly cause shortages and other social problems. ownership should be limited to one primary residence only. 

we need to be more like, france, for example, where the vast majority of people rent and real market value, subsidized by the government. unless americans WANT a free for all sliding demise into a social apocalypse where ultimately corporations will literally own all desireable land within a hundred years anyways. i would much prefer this funneled through the government than 100% pure greed (lesser of two evils)

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1/9/19
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rexkwondo79 - 

real estate. it is one of the highest priorities. there is a nation wide housing crisis and there is no reason for housing to become a big busineess that can wildly cause shortages and other social problems. ownership should be limited to one primary residence only. 

we need to be more like, france, for example, where the vast majority of people rent and real market value, subsidized by the government. unless americans WANT a free for all sliding demise into a social apocalypse where ultimately corporations will literally own all desireable land within a hundred years anyways. i would much prefer this funneled through the government than 100% pure greed (lesser of two evils)


there probably does need to be some kind of regulation of markets which Bubbles Pose a SIGNIFICANT THREAT to the stability of a country

9 days ago
6/13/03
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Starbucks 

9 days ago
1/9/19
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Sogsteel - 

Starbucks 


Retail/Food industry should be semi-FREE MARKET with some reasonable management of inflation/price-gouging, that kind of thing

9 days ago
1/9/19
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these BILLION $$$ PROFITS TOO BIG TO FAILS are a significant threat to the stability of the Nation and there needs to be MORE NATIONALIZATION, REGULATION, and UNION FORMATION!

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11/9/10
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None, the market left on its own is always more efficient than anything a bunch of bureaucrats can do. 

9 days ago
1/1/01
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utilities are already regulated by the goverment. If they can't even oversee them, there's no way they can run them.

9 days ago
11/26/07
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So many good people die everyday and here you are posting away.  Such a waste

9 days ago
1/2/20
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gay porn.

9 days ago
3/16/11
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rexkwondo79 -

real estate. it is one of the highest priorities. there is a nation wide housing crisis and there is no reason for housing to become a big busineess that can wildly cause shortages and other social problems. ownership should be limited to one primary residence only. 

we need to be more like, france, for example, where the vast majority of people rent and real market value, subsidized by the government. unless americans WANT a free for all sliding demise into a social apocalypse where ultimately corporations will literally own all desireable land within a hundred years anyways. i would much prefer this funneled through the government than 100% pure greed (lesser of two evils)

Why don’t you build one yourself? 

9 days ago
11/9/10
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People will use this Texas storm to cry about regulating utilities. Yet this was a once in a hundred year storm. And they say nothing when heavily regulated CA has blackouts EVERY GOD DAMNED SUMMER because it got hot. Texas wasn’t properly prepared for something no one alive has really ever seen, GOVERNMENT IS THE ANSWER! CA has power issues every summer “It’s the power companies fault!” Never mind the state controls them at nearly every level. 

9 days ago
8/26/05
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rexkwondo79 - 

real estate. it is one of the highest priorities. there is a nation wide housing crisis and there is no reason for housing to become a big busineess that can wildly cause shortages and other social problems. ownership should be limited to one primary residence only. 

we need to be more like, france, for example, where the vast majority of people rent and real market value, subsidized by the government. unless americans WANT a free for all sliding demise into a social apocalypse where ultimately corporations will literally own all desireable land within a hundred years anyways. i would much prefer this funneled through the government than 100% pure greed (lesser of two evils)


Unfortunately, as presented by this poster, this is a false choice to make.

> i would much prefer this funneled through the government than 100% pure greed (lesser of two evils)

Sure, private sector is driven by greed (as expressed in financial terms)

BUT, public sector is driven by GREED just as much, if not MORE... often expressed differently though - not just financial, but control / power, &c.

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12/17/06
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rexkwondo79 -

real estate. it is one of the highest priorities. there is a nation wide housing crisis and there is no reason for housing to become a big busineess that can wildly cause shortages and other social problems. ownership should be limited to one primary residence only. 

we need to be more like, france, for example, where the vast majority of people rent and real market value, subsidized by the government. unless americans WANT a free for all sliding demise into a social apocalypse where ultimately corporations will literally own all desireable land within a hundred years anyways. i would much prefer this funneled through the government than 100% pure greed (lesser of two evils)

This is literal commie bullshit.

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11/9/10
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rexkwondo79 -

real estate. it is one of the highest priorities. there is a nation wide housing crisis and there is no reason for housing to become a big busineess that can wildly cause shortages and other social problems. ownership should be limited to one primary residence only. 

we need to be more like, france, for example, where the vast majority of people rent and real market value, subsidized by the government. unless americans WANT a free for all sliding demise into a social apocalypse where ultimately corporations will literally own all desireable land within a hundred years anyways. i would much prefer this funneled through the government than 100% pure greed (lesser of two evils)

If everyone rents who owns the property? Is it all govt controlled? Genuinely curious.
 

The worst places to afford to live in the US are all over regulated rent controlled cities. Cities where the development of apartment and rental properties has become nearly impossible. There are plenty of videos and reports about how hard it has become to develop buildings in SF and LA due to the burden of regulations and price controls.  

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4/13/12
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VinegarStrokes -

None, the market left on its own is always more efficient than anything a bunch of bureaucrats can do. 

Not true.  Laissez Faire capitalism is a seriously dangerous idea.  Capitalism only works with minor regulation by government.  Enforcement of contracts, along with defense and basic infrastructure is one of the few necessar purposes of government.

People that claim otherwise usually have a very elementary understanding of economics.  Free markets examined outside of the scope of behavioral economic theory is a fantasy.

To answer ops questionand IMO, any utility deemed a necessity to life under the social contract or life itself should be nationalized - ie water, air, electricity, healthcare.  IMO, there are certain things you shouldn't be able to profit off of.  Not to say these things should be free, but they should be provided to the public at cost.

 

9 days ago
8/26/05
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EFM - 
VinegarStrokes -

None, the market left on its own is always more efficient than anything a bunch of bureaucrats can do. 

Not true.  Laissez Faire capitalism is a seriously dangerous idea.  Capitalism only works with minor regulation by government.  Enforcement of contracts, along with defense and basic infrastructure is one of the few necessar purposes of government.

People that claim otherwise usually have a very elementary understanding of economics.  Free markets examined outside of the scope of behavioral economic theory is a fantasy.

To answer ops questionand IMO, any utility deemed a necessity to life under the social contract or life itself should be nationalized - ie water, air, electricity, healthcare.  IMO, there are certain things you shouldn't be able to profit off of.  Not to say these things should be free, but they should be provided to the public at cost.

 


And there is the rub:

> any utility deemed a necessity to life under the social contract or life itself should be nationalized

This is where mission creep happens

- "deemed" - by whom?
- "necessity" - what IS necessary to "life"?
- what does "nationalize" even mean these days? Even the Marxists have figured out that the state need not actually "own" anything in order to accomplish the same ends as state ownership

I won't even get into "social contract"....