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3/2/20 2:38 PM
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jpm995 - 

Question, when are you contageous to others, when you have it. Is it as soon as your infected or when you show signs?


The former, it seems.

3/2/20 2:42 PM
12/2/05
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jpm995 -

Question, when are you contageous to others, when you have it. Is it as soon as your infected or when you show signs?

I believe it’s been the case that you’re contagious, even before you’re showing symptoms.  You might not be contagious on day 1 of being infected, but you are contagious before you realize you’re sick. 

3/2/20 4:26 PM
4/26/18
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EasyTapper -
jpm995 -

Question, when are you contageous to others, when you have it. Is it as soon as your infected or when you show signs?

I believe it’s been the case that you’re contagious, even before you’re showing symptoms.  You might not be contagious on day 1 of being infected, but you are contagious before you realize you’re sick. 

This is correct. Although you are far more likely to pass the virus on once you are coughing everywhere.

3/2/20 4:37 PM
4/26/18
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chad_mcjangle -
D241 - 

2nd death of the corona virus happened today.  70 year old with pre-existing health conditions.

 

Gee, go figure.

 

What's next, you going to tell me 70 year olds with pre-existing health conditions are also in danger of dying over things like the flu or a common cold? Oh the horror oh the shock.

 

Cire-if you are a 70 year old with pre-existing health issues, I apologize.  And I assume your name is Nancy.

 


Dude, they should make you the prime minister of japan since that nancy shut down his country's entire school system. Clearly a badass like yourself knows this isn't a big deal at all and there was no reason for him to panic like that.

Glad we have a world class expert on infectious disease up in here.

I’ve just returned from japan. Japan hasn’t closed the school system because everyone is going to die! He’s closed the school system because this is by far the best option whilst trying to prevent this spreading further than it needs to. 

If the death rate for this virus was 0%, this would still be a valid method to try to stop it being shared further. They are trying to stop a pandemic with a low death rate.

If we could all go back in time and prevent the flu from being a thing by closing schools, quarantining cities, restricting travel etc at its inception then I’m sure we can all agree this would be a good thing for humanity despite the immediate inconvenience. This is precisely what Japan and other countries are trying to do here.

Reality is that it is too late for that, this virus is out in the wild now and there’s no stopping it, however it’s another coronavirus with similar symptoms and similar death rates. In the grand old scheme of things it could have been waaaaay worse...

3/2/20 4:48 PM
10/1/03
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KeijiKadekawa -
FCTV808 - 


What's really fucking irritating are my chinese national peeps in china who have since the beginning saying america has it worse than china as that's how it's spun to a lot of them. Deep down you know they want America to get smashed by it... passive aggressive bastards that need a good conquering.

I think i Posted this before - but had calls coming from japan going back about 3 weeks from families and friends asking if we were doing ok out here in California on account of the flu.

I’m in japan now and fucking cnn international may they burn in hell

3/2/20 4:51 PM
10/1/03
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Fahqhard -
FCTV808 -


What's really fucking irritating are my chinese national peeps in china who have since the beginning saying america has it worse than china as that's how it's spun to a lot of them. Deep down you know they want America to get smashed by it... passive aggressive bastards that need a good conquering.

I cant hate on them for wanting Americas demise . I was feeling the same way towards China, wishing this just wipes them all out so we can stop with there illnesses they spread every 10 or 15 years . First sars now this. Chinese are the dirtiest of any race, they eat anything and there hygiene is gross.  When going to the casino back home there used to be adult diapers in there garbage from Chinese gamblers who would not wanna leave there machine and they would shit and piss themselves.. 

I can those effing shitbags... literally 

 

#servantmaterial

3/2/20 4:55 PM
10/1/03
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but of all things, I want to thank the corona virus for this smack down... couldn't have happened to a more deserving country
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3/2/20 5:51 PM
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3/2/20 5:55 PM
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3/2/20 6:15 PM
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Morpheus1976 -
robbie380 -
Morpheus1976 -
robbie380 -

D241 you are being a douche.  He's literally reporting information that is showing the overall situation improving. 

 

Active cases are declining and severe cases are declining.

 

On top of all that the cases outside of China and Iran are showing a lower mortality rate (around 1%) and a MUCH lower serious and critical rate (closer to 4%)

 

Outside of China and Iran the numbers are this

Coronavirus Cases:

8070

Deaths:

84 (1%) of total cases

Recovered:

439 (5.4%) of total cases

 

ACTIVE CASES 

7547

 

Currently Infected Patients

7257 (96.2%) in Mild Condition


290 (3.8%) in Serious or Critical

i though you compare death count against cured? so its a 6,5% death rate

You look at the number of deaths versus the number of total cases not cured. 

"Case fatality rate is calculated by dividing the number of deaths from a specified disease over a defined period of time by the number of individuals diagnosed with the disease during that time; the resulting ratio is then multiplied by 100 to yield a percentage."

 

Further, you could also look at the serious/critical case rate to get a better snapshot of things as well.  I think it is important to pay attention to South Korea and the Diamond Princess because in these places they are testing large amounts of people.  With the Diamond Princess they got the entire ship tested and South Korea is the gold standard of large scale testing. 

Currently in SK they have 4335 total cases and 4279 active.  Out of that 26 have died and only 27 are in serious/critical condition.  So out of the active cases only 0.6% are in grave condition and about 0.6% of all the cases recognized so far have ended in death.  SK also has the crazy situation of dealing with that religious cult that was infecting themselves on purpose.  Here's some recent numbers on that...

The Diamond Prince example a little less than 20% of the people on the ship got infected which was 705 people.  7 died for a little less than a 1% death rate and the current severe/critical rate is around 5.1%.  These rates are still very dangerous and would present a heavy burden for the hospitals but they are far better than the initial estimates of 20% of the cases ending up as severe/critical.  

only deaths and recovered are facts, the rest is a question mark.

that's why it should be altered

Ok so you are saying case fatality rate isn't a useable stat.  This stat can go up and down.  That's fine, but I think you are skewing things to look worse than they are by doing so.  

 

 

3/2/20 6:37 PM
11/20/09
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Non N00B - 
D241 -

Health experts warn that stocking up on the disposable masks could do more harm than good by limiting their availability to doctors and nurses. If the coronavirus outbreak should cause a run on anything, they say, it should be soap and water instead.

There are good reasons to wear masks — namely, to protect others. Surgeons use them so they don’t cough or sneeze into open wounds. Emergency room staff hand them out to visitors with respiratory symptoms to protect others in the waiting area. Doctors diligently swap their masks between visits with immune-suppressed patients, to avoid exposing them to clinging pathogens.

If you’re already sick, mask-wearing is good practice. Donning a paper mask on a crowded train or bus, for instance, can minimize the degree to which a cough or sneeze disseminates infectious fluid onto neighbors and handrails that will be grabbed throughout the day.

But for everyone else, the masks are simply “unnecessary,” said Alex Azar, secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services.

 

 

 

Cire-quit causing panic

This is retarded, hospitals get their masks from giant medical distribution companies, not fucking Walmart or Target. There is NEVER going to be a shortage of them. These arent some endangered species. Also, there are different types, the typical ear loop and the tie on fluid resistant ones, which are a little less common, and a pain in the ass due to not being able to quickly slip them on. Also, any mask is limited after x amount of time, as it gets weaker due to respiration soaking it. 

With this version of the virus being airborne, a surgical mask will not help nearly as much as a respirator, but is much better than nothing, especially if you encounter somebody with the virus and you are BOTH wearing a mask. 


https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/03/01/surgeon-general-says-stop-buying-face-masks/?fbclid=IwAR2SrQu-aWYI5qhvmyyYd5Znqx0cosQKecV9Z6vJf0OLLTvFchTQODO6GT4

3/2/20 6:39 PM
11/20/09
Posts: 42656

4 more deaths reported!!  

 

At a retirement home the young health ages of 76, 82, 86, and 92!

 

They were in such good health and had so much to live for!!!!

 

Everyone go full panic mode now!!!!!

Edited: 3/2/20 6:39 PM
1/1/01
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Coronavirus Cases:

90,308 

view by country

Deaths:

3,087

Recovered:

45,726

ACTIVE CASES 

41,495

Currently Infected Patients

34,097 (82%) 

in Mild Condition


7,398 (18%) 

Serious or Critical


 

3/2/20 6:55 PM
4/6/19
Posts: 4563
D241 -

4 more deaths reported!!  

 

At a retirement home the young health ages of 76, 82, 86, and 92!

 

They were in such good health and had so much to live for!!!!

 

Everyone go full panic mode now!!!!!

I would prefer not to kill off my older family, but that’s just me. maybe you hate yours 

3/2/20 6:56 PM
1/12/07
Posts: 16562
D241 -

4 more deaths reported!!  

 

At a retirement home the young health ages of 76, 82, 86, and 92!

 

They were in such good health and had so much to live for!!!!

 

Everyone go full panic mode now!!!!!

Not cool. 

3/2/20 7:24 PM
11/20/09
Posts: 42659
Wayne Glamcock - 
D241 -

4 more deaths reported!!  

 

At a retirement home the young health ages of 76, 82, 86, and 92!

 

They were in such good health and had so much to live for!!!!

 

Everyone go full panic mode now!!!!!

I would prefer not to kill off my older family, but that’s just me. maybe you hate yours 


That's your interpretation?

 

Do you think old people can get the flu and have nothing to worry about, just the coronavirus?

 

I'm trying to put things into perspective.  Older people's immune systems aren't the best.  

 

 

3/2/20 7:38 PM
11/20/09
Posts: 42660

Recovered:

3,322

 

3,466

 

4,336

4,536

4,847

5,705

7,019

7,182

10,857

12,615

14,555

16,342

18,223

18,910

21,330

23,070

23,596

25,272

27,492

45,726

 

 

3/2/20 7:44 PM
6/30/07
Posts: 59810
D241 -

4 more deaths reported!!  

 

At a retirement home the young health ages of 76, 82, 86, and 92!

 

They were in such good health and had so much to live for!!!!

 

Everyone go full panic mode now!!!!!

You're making an ass out of yourself with all this

3/2/20 8:53 PM
11/20/09
Posts: 42661

My fellow mma lovers are experiencing negative emotions right now.  The emotions of panic and concern.

 

I don't want that.  I'm trying to get people who are in fear of something, to not be afraid. 

 

I'm such an asshole I know.

3/2/20 9:06 PM
8/2/19
Posts: 934
D241 -

My fellow mma lovers are experiencing negative emotions right now.  The emotions of panic and concern.

 

I don't want that.  I'm trying to get people who are in fear of something, to not be afraid. 

 

I'm such an asshole I know.

lol... What a fucking weirdo you are.

3/3/20 1:05 AM
3/23/06
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at least they are in good spirit 

3/3/20 1:22 AM
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D241 -

My fellow mma lovers are experiencing negative emotions right now.  The emotions of panic and concern.

 

I don't want that.  I'm trying to get people who are in fear of something, to not be afraid. 

 

I'm such an asshole I know.

The only person getting all emotional is you.  You alright man? You are better than this.  Not a good look for you in this thread. 

 

Myself I'm not too worried about the virus,  but I still like following the news and being a little prepared just in case. Also,  I've said it before in another thread,  you never know how this thing could affect you or someone you love. I wasn't worried about H1N1/swine flu, but then it killed my father. Even after going through that,  I'm in no way panicking over the coronavirus. 

3/3/20 12:36 PM
10/17/06
Posts: 2704
D241 -

My fellow mma lovers are experiencing negative emotions right now.  The emotions of panic and concern.

 

I don't want that.  I'm trying to get people who are in fear of something, to not be afraid. 

 

I'm such an asshole I know.

Not an asshole, just a gigantic faggot.

3/3/20 12:52 PM
10/17/08
Posts: 15137
D241 - 

4 more deaths reported!!  

 

At a retirement home the young health ages of 76, 82, 86, and 92!

 

They were in such good health and had so much to live for!!!!

 

Everyone go full panic mode now!!!!!


My parents are in the low end of that age range. I'm concerned for their health. You come off like an asshole with that post.