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3/16/20 10:51 PM
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Erik Apple -
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D241 -

As of today March 16th (American only)

  • Total cases: 3,487
  • Total deaths: 68
Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. 

 

Thirty-seven deaths (77% of total) are in Washington state.

Newly reported on March 13, 2020
Two women in their 90s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A woman in her 80s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A man in his 70s at Overlake Medical Center died on March 4.
A man in his 80s at Swedish Issaquah hospital, died on March 9.
Woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died on March 11.
Four Washington state deaths are from Snohomish County

A woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died March 11.
Woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions died March 10.
Man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, died March 9 at the Josephine Caring Community
A man in his 40s with underlying health conditions died but the date has not been specified.
One Washington State death is from Grant County, a patient in his or her 80s.
Four deaths are in California:

A woman, 90s, in assisted living.
A woman, 60s, hospitalized in Santa Clara.
An elderly man in assisted living.
A man, 71, with underlying health conditions who had been on a Grand Princess cruise ship.
Two deaths are in Florida:
A man and woman, both in their 70s, died after returning from foreign travel.
One death is in New Jersey:

A man, 69, who is diabetic and suffered two cardiac arrests, has died.
One death is in South Dakota:
A man in his 60s with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Georgia:

A man, 67, with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Kansas:
A man in his 70s with underlying health conditions died at the Life Care Center in Kansas City.
One death in is Colorado:

A woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions has died.

 

"Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. "

 

Only if you don't understand what you're talking about. 


Swift comeback paranoid panicker

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/entertainment/tom-hanks-rita-wilson-released-hospital-coronavirus/index.html

Keep in mind Hanks is 63 with diabeetus.  Said at worst he felt like he had a small cold. 

 

But you don't want to listen to positive shit or logical shit.  You want to panic, you want to be scared, you want to go panic buy things you don't need which will cause more problems than solutions.  

 

If you want to post here showing everyone how scared you are, keep doing it lol  

It's kinda funny to me.  

This

How do people still think that this is merely about mortality rate?  Are you really that stupid or uninformed?

With the UK taking do nothing approach it will be interesting to see how it fares versus the rest of the world using a lockdown approach. There big enough to give a realistac sample. Will herd immunity be effective?

3/16/20 10:51 PM
8/2/19
Posts: 1092
Toiletclogger -

Not sure if this has been asked/answered here, but why has Hong Kong not been affected much. Don’t they have minimal cases? 

Hong Kong was one of the first (Feb 1st) to put travel restrictions in place, preventing people from China from coming in.  This was a great move and will be discussed in the future I'm sure.

3/16/20 11:08 PM
11/10/18
Posts: 6569
Morpheus1976 -
D241 -

As of today March 16th (American only)

  • Total cases: 3,487
  • Total deaths: 68
Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. 

 

Thirty-seven deaths (77% of total) are in Washington state.

Newly reported on March 13, 2020
Two women in their 90s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A woman in her 80s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A man in his 70s at Overlake Medical Center died on March 4.
A man in his 80s at Swedish Issaquah hospital, died on March 9.
Woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died on March 11.
Four Washington state deaths are from Snohomish County

A woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died March 11.
Woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions died March 10.
Man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, died March 9 at the Josephine Caring Community
A man in his 40s with underlying health conditions died but the date has not been specified.
One Washington State death is from Grant County, a patient in his or her 80s.
Four deaths are in California:

A woman, 90s, in assisted living.
A woman, 60s, hospitalized in Santa Clara.
An elderly man in assisted living.
A man, 71, with underlying health conditions who had been on a Grand Princess cruise ship.
Two deaths are in Florida:
A man and woman, both in their 70s, died after returning from foreign travel.
One death is in New Jersey:

A man, 69, who is diabetic and suffered two cardiac arrests, has died.
One death is in South Dakota:
A man in his 60s with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Georgia:

A man, 67, with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Kansas:
A man in his 70s with underlying health conditions died at the Life Care Center in Kansas City.
One death in is Colorado:

A woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions has died.

 

they don't test, no testkits, but testing will improve.

on 330 million people, my estimate is 500.000 are infected.

I agree and that’s why this is extremely overblown. 500k infected and less than 100 dead. Whole thing is looking very odd. 

3/16/20 11:43 PM
8/2/19
Posts: 1093
Eskimo -
Morpheus1976 -
D241 -

As of today March 16th (American only)

  • Total cases: 3,487
  • Total deaths: 68
Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. 

 

Thirty-seven deaths (77% of total) are in Washington state.

Newly reported on March 13, 2020
Two women in their 90s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A woman in her 80s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A man in his 70s at Overlake Medical Center died on March 4.
A man in his 80s at Swedish Issaquah hospital, died on March 9.
Woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died on March 11.
Four Washington state deaths are from Snohomish County

A woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died March 11.
Woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions died March 10.
Man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, died March 9 at the Josephine Caring Community
A man in his 40s with underlying health conditions died but the date has not been specified.
One Washington State death is from Grant County, a patient in his or her 80s.
Four deaths are in California:

A woman, 90s, in assisted living.
A woman, 60s, hospitalized in Santa Clara.
An elderly man in assisted living.
A man, 71, with underlying health conditions who had been on a Grand Princess cruise ship.
Two deaths are in Florida:
A man and woman, both in their 70s, died after returning from foreign travel.
One death is in New Jersey:

A man, 69, who is diabetic and suffered two cardiac arrests, has died.
One death is in South Dakota:
A man in his 60s with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Georgia:

A man, 67, with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Kansas:
A man in his 70s with underlying health conditions died at the Life Care Center in Kansas City.
One death in is Colorado:

A woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions has died.

 

they don't test, no testkits, but testing will improve.

on 330 million people, my estimate is 500.000 are infected.

I agree and that’s why this is extremely overblown. 500k infected and less than 100 dead. Whole thing is looking very odd. 

Before this is over there will be hundreds of millions infected and hundreds of thousands dead. 

You're too naive and stupid to understand what's going on around you, but luckily for your family and loved ones, there are people much smarter than you looking after their health and well being.

3/16/20 11:44 PM
12/9/13
Posts: 27379
jpm995 -
jspeed -
Erik Apple -
D241 -
jspeed - 
D241 -

As of today March 16th (American only)

  • Total cases: 3,487
  • Total deaths: 68
Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. 

 

Thirty-seven deaths (77% of total) are in Washington state.

Newly reported on March 13, 2020
Two women in their 90s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A woman in her 80s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A man in his 70s at Overlake Medical Center died on March 4.
A man in his 80s at Swedish Issaquah hospital, died on March 9.
Woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died on March 11.
Four Washington state deaths are from Snohomish County

A woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died March 11.
Woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions died March 10.
Man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, died March 9 at the Josephine Caring Community
A man in his 40s with underlying health conditions died but the date has not been specified.
One Washington State death is from Grant County, a patient in his or her 80s.
Four deaths are in California:

A woman, 90s, in assisted living.
A woman, 60s, hospitalized in Santa Clara.
An elderly man in assisted living.
A man, 71, with underlying health conditions who had been on a Grand Princess cruise ship.
Two deaths are in Florida:
A man and woman, both in their 70s, died after returning from foreign travel.
One death is in New Jersey:

A man, 69, who is diabetic and suffered two cardiac arrests, has died.
One death is in South Dakota:
A man in his 60s with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Georgia:

A man, 67, with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Kansas:
A man in his 70s with underlying health conditions died at the Life Care Center in Kansas City.
One death in is Colorado:

A woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions has died.

 

"Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. "

 

Only if you don't understand what you're talking about. 


Swift comeback paranoid panicker

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/entertainment/tom-hanks-rita-wilson-released-hospital-coronavirus/index.html

Keep in mind Hanks is 63 with diabeetus.  Said at worst he felt like he had a small cold. 

 

But you don't want to listen to positive shit or logical shit.  You want to panic, you want to be scared, you want to go panic buy things you don't need which will cause more problems than solutions.  

 

If you want to post here showing everyone how scared you are, keep doing it lol  

It's kinda funny to me.  

This

How do people still think that this is merely about mortality rate?  Are you really that stupid or uninformed?

With the UK taking do nothing approach it will be interesting to see how it fares versus the rest of the world using a lockdown approach. There big enough to give a realistac sample. Will herd immunity be effective?

they already admitted they were wrong, UK is dead, they can't recover from this

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/new-data-new-policy-why-uks-coronavirus-strategy-has-changed

3/16/20 11:53 PM
8/2/19
Posts: 1095
jpm995 -
jspeed -
Erik Apple -
D241 -
jspeed - 
D241 -

As of today March 16th (American only)

  • Total cases: 3,487
  • Total deaths: 68
Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. 

 

Thirty-seven deaths (77% of total) are in Washington state.

Newly reported on March 13, 2020
Two women in their 90s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A woman in her 80s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A man in his 70s at Overlake Medical Center died on March 4.
A man in his 80s at Swedish Issaquah hospital, died on March 9.
Woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died on March 11.
Four Washington state deaths are from Snohomish County

A woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died March 11.
Woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions died March 10.
Man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, died March 9 at the Josephine Caring Community
A man in his 40s with underlying health conditions died but the date has not been specified.
One Washington State death is from Grant County, a patient in his or her 80s.
Four deaths are in California:

A woman, 90s, in assisted living.
A woman, 60s, hospitalized in Santa Clara.
An elderly man in assisted living.
A man, 71, with underlying health conditions who had been on a Grand Princess cruise ship.
Two deaths are in Florida:
A man and woman, both in their 70s, died after returning from foreign travel.
One death is in New Jersey:

A man, 69, who is diabetic and suffered two cardiac arrests, has died.
One death is in South Dakota:
A man in his 60s with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Georgia:

A man, 67, with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Kansas:
A man in his 70s with underlying health conditions died at the Life Care Center in Kansas City.
One death in is Colorado:

A woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions has died.

 

"Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. "

 

Only if you don't understand what you're talking about. 


Swift comeback paranoid panicker

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/entertainment/tom-hanks-rita-wilson-released-hospital-coronavirus/index.html

Keep in mind Hanks is 63 with diabeetus.  Said at worst he felt like he had a small cold. 

 

But you don't want to listen to positive shit or logical shit.  You want to panic, you want to be scared, you want to go panic buy things you don't need which will cause more problems than solutions.  

 

If you want to post here showing everyone how scared you are, keep doing it lol  

It's kinda funny to me.  

This

How do people still think that this is merely about mortality rate?  Are you really that stupid or uninformed?

With the UK taking do nothing approach it will be interesting to see how it fares versus the rest of the world using a lockdown approach. There big enough to give a realistac sample. Will herd immunity be effective?

Its game over for UK when it comes to stopping this early. They are at 1k and will be at 10k cases in 10 or less days. 

3/16/20 11:58 PM
8/2/19
Posts: 1096
Morpheus1976 -
jpm995 -
jspeed -
Erik Apple -
D241 -
jspeed - 
D241 -

As of today March 16th (American only)

  • Total cases: 3,487
  • Total deaths: 68
Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. 

 

Thirty-seven deaths (77% of total) are in Washington state.

Newly reported on March 13, 2020
Two women in their 90s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A woman in her 80s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A man in his 70s at Overlake Medical Center died on March 4.
A man in his 80s at Swedish Issaquah hospital, died on March 9.
Woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died on March 11.
Four Washington state deaths are from Snohomish County

A woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died March 11.
Woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions died March 10.
Man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, died March 9 at the Josephine Caring Community
A man in his 40s with underlying health conditions died but the date has not been specified.
One Washington State death is from Grant County, a patient in his or her 80s.
Four deaths are in California:

A woman, 90s, in assisted living.
A woman, 60s, hospitalized in Santa Clara.
An elderly man in assisted living.
A man, 71, with underlying health conditions who had been on a Grand Princess cruise ship.
Two deaths are in Florida:
A man and woman, both in their 70s, died after returning from foreign travel.
One death is in New Jersey:

A man, 69, who is diabetic and suffered two cardiac arrests, has died.
One death is in South Dakota:
A man in his 60s with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Georgia:

A man, 67, with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Kansas:
A man in his 70s with underlying health conditions died at the Life Care Center in Kansas City.
One death in is Colorado:

A woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions has died.

 

"Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. "

 

Only if you don't understand what you're talking about. 


Swift comeback paranoid panicker

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/entertainment/tom-hanks-rita-wilson-released-hospital-coronavirus/index.html

Keep in mind Hanks is 63 with diabeetus.  Said at worst he felt like he had a small cold. 

 

But you don't want to listen to positive shit or logical shit.  You want to panic, you want to be scared, you want to go panic buy things you don't need which will cause more problems than solutions.  

 

If you want to post here showing everyone how scared you are, keep doing it lol  

It's kinda funny to me.  

This

How do people still think that this is merely about mortality rate?  Are you really that stupid or uninformed?

With the UK taking do nothing approach it will be interesting to see how it fares versus the rest of the world using a lockdown approach. There big enough to give a realistac sample. Will herd immunity be effective?

they already admitted they were wrong, UK is dead, they can't recover from this

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/new-data-new-policy-why-uks-coronavirus-strategy-has-changed

"What changed was new data on the impact of Italy’s out-of-control epidemic on its health service. Basically, it is catastrophic, with 30% of hospitalised patients having to be admitted to intensive care. "

 

- weird...we need the OG experts to quickly draft an email explaining to the prime minister that these numbers must be wrong because Tom Hanks recovered.

 

 

 

3/17/20 12:10 AM
2/7/20
Posts: 74

We’ll see gents. I’ve been all over the board on this. What first drew my attention was the propaganda from China about cases, and deaths. They’ve done a good job of blanketing real information with official approved information. A lot of us on the forum were focused on the LYING. And then the virus started to spread. Now I see a bunch of arguing men.. either contesting “too much or too little”... or trying to add inches to their dicks with stats they didn’t even come up with about how we’re all a bunch worriers. It’s got to the point where we’re going to see what happens here in the next two months... not two days worth of stats.. two months and maybe more if all you super heroes don’t take reasonable precautions to not spread an infectious disease pandemic.  

3/17/20 12:16 AM
2/7/20
Posts: 75

We should always always remember... that the statistics given to us are dictated by others, whom either want to exaggerate or play down the real story. It’s nearly impossible to get the truth. Sure D241ten9er... the deaths have been mostly elderly people here in Washington. Because the first infected area was a life care center, but that’s not the case everywhere. So stop with that shit. 

And also don’t downplay those peoples deaths... if the prime candidate for the virus was a middle aged fat babysitter... you wouldn’t want anyone devaluing you because of it. 

3/17/20 12:46 AM
11/10/18
Posts: 6570
jspeed -
Eskimo -
Morpheus1976 -
D241 -

As of today March 16th (American only)

  • Total cases: 3,487
  • Total deaths: 68
Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. 

 

Thirty-seven deaths (77% of total) are in Washington state.

Newly reported on March 13, 2020
Two women in their 90s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A woman in her 80s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A man in his 70s at Overlake Medical Center died on March 4.
A man in his 80s at Swedish Issaquah hospital, died on March 9.
Woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died on March 11.
Four Washington state deaths are from Snohomish County

A woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died March 11.
Woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions died March 10.
Man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, died March 9 at the Josephine Caring Community
A man in his 40s with underlying health conditions died but the date has not been specified.
One Washington State death is from Grant County, a patient in his or her 80s.
Four deaths are in California:

A woman, 90s, in assisted living.
A woman, 60s, hospitalized in Santa Clara.
An elderly man in assisted living.
A man, 71, with underlying health conditions who had been on a Grand Princess cruise ship.
Two deaths are in Florida:
A man and woman, both in their 70s, died after returning from foreign travel.
One death is in New Jersey:

A man, 69, who is diabetic and suffered two cardiac arrests, has died.
One death is in South Dakota:
A man in his 60s with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Georgia:

A man, 67, with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Kansas:
A man in his 70s with underlying health conditions died at the Life Care Center in Kansas City.
One death in is Colorado:

A woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions has died.

 

they don't test, no testkits, but testing will improve.

on 330 million people, my estimate is 500.000 are infected.

I agree and that’s why this is extremely overblown. 500k infected and less than 100 dead. Whole thing is looking very odd. 

Before this is over there will be hundreds of millions infected and hundreds of thousands dead. 

You're too naive and stupid to understand what's going on around you, but luckily for your family and loved ones, there are people much smarter than you looking after their health and well being.

100’s of thousands dead out of 7 billion people? You’re right, I just didn’t understand. Lol what the fuck is wrong with you? If you’re gonna run around calling everyone dumb at least say 100 million dead. Still a relatively insignificant number for the world, but it sounds better.

3/17/20 12:57 AM
11/20/09
Posts: 42930
jspeed - 
D241 -

I'm not trying to make a point.  I'm trying to put things into perspective. 

 

68 deaths, all but one over the age of 70, majority of those already had bad health. 

 

Hundreds, perhaps thousands will be without income.  People have a higher chance of looting and rioting from the fallout of all the panic and panic buying more than they would have a risk of getting the virus and dying from it.

 

I know EVERYONE is panicking and media is telling you to panick, but here we are in the ides of March and the death count is still very low, and there are famous people, old famous people who are catching the virus and only experiencing mild symptoms before beating it. 

 

How scared should you be?

The Italians took this laid-back approach and their healthcare system has collapsed and estimates as to how long it will take their economy to recover suggest it will take a decade. Spain also took a laid back "lets put it in perspective" approach and are now just entering the panic phase.

 

Thank goodness leaders in the West woke up instead of being dumb ignorant fucks like you.


It seems like my post triggered you as your response sure is an emotional one, ending with "ignorant fucks like you". 

 

Did I trigger you?

 

What part triggered you, the logical part?

Was it the part where I asked how scared you should be?

Tell me where this bad man hurt you.

3/17/20 1:02 AM
11/20/09
Posts: 42931
Dadicus - 

We’ll see gents. I’ve been all over the board on this. What first drew my attention was the propaganda from China about cases, and deaths. They’ve done a good job of blanketing real information with official approved information. A lot of us on the forum were focused on the LYING. And then the virus started to spread. Now I see a bunch of arguing men.. either contesting “too much or too little”... or trying to add inches to their dicks with stats they didn’t even come up with about how we’re all a bunch worriers. It’s got to the point where we’re going to see what happens here in the next two months... not two days worth of stats.. two months and maybe more if all you super heroes don’t take reasonable precautions to not spread an infectious disease pandemic.  


"It's got to the point where we're going to see what happens here in the next two months"....

A couple weeks ago I was, and still am under the impression the scale of this won't start really being known for about 12-15 months from Jan 2020. 

Precautions are being made.  You'd have to be living under a rock or a dumb bold person to not do otherwise. 

3/17/20 1:04 AM
8/2/19
Posts: 1103
Eskimo -
jspeed -
Eskimo -
Morpheus1976 -
D241 -

As of today March 16th (American only)

  • Total cases: 3,487
  • Total deaths: 68
Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. 

 

Thirty-seven deaths (77% of total) are in Washington state.

Newly reported on March 13, 2020
Two women in their 90s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A woman in her 80s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
A man in his 70s at Overlake Medical Center died on March 4.
A man in his 80s at Swedish Issaquah hospital, died on March 9.
Woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died on March 11.
Four Washington state deaths are from Snohomish County

A woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died March 11.
Woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions died March 10.
Man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, died March 9 at the Josephine Caring Community
A man in his 40s with underlying health conditions died but the date has not been specified.
One Washington State death is from Grant County, a patient in his or her 80s.
Four deaths are in California:

A woman, 90s, in assisted living.
A woman, 60s, hospitalized in Santa Clara.
An elderly man in assisted living.
A man, 71, with underlying health conditions who had been on a Grand Princess cruise ship.
Two deaths are in Florida:
A man and woman, both in their 70s, died after returning from foreign travel.
One death is in New Jersey:

A man, 69, who is diabetic and suffered two cardiac arrests, has died.
One death is in South Dakota:
A man in his 60s with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Georgia:

A man, 67, with underlying medical conditions has died.
One death is in Kansas:
A man in his 70s with underlying health conditions died at the Life Care Center in Kansas City.
One death in is Colorado:

A woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions has died.

 

they don't test, no testkits, but testing will improve.

on 330 million people, my estimate is 500.000 are infected.

I agree and that’s why this is extremely overblown. 500k infected and less than 100 dead. Whole thing is looking very odd. 

Before this is over there will be hundreds of millions infected and hundreds of thousands dead. 

You're too naive and stupid to understand what's going on around you, but luckily for your family and loved ones, there are people much smarter than you looking after their health and well being.

100’s of thousands dead out of 7 billion people? You’re right, I just didn’t understand. Lol what the fuck is wrong with you? If you’re gonna run around calling everyone dumb at least say 100 million dead. Still a relatively insignificant number for the world, but it sounds better.

Admitting that you think 100,000,000 dying from a virus is relatively insignificant at least summarizes the sort of person that believes this to all be overblown.

 

I couldn't make a stronger case.

 

3/17/20 1:05 AM
11/20/09
Posts: 42932
Dadicus - 

We should always always remember... that the statistics given to us are dictated by others, whom either want to exaggerate or play down the real story. It’s nearly impossible to get the truth. Sure D241ten9er... the deaths have been mostly elderly people here in Washington. Because the first infected area was a life care center, but that’s not the case everywhere. So stop with that shit. 

And also don’t downplay those peoples deaths... if the prime candidate for the virus was a middle aged fat babysitter... you wouldn’t want anyone devaluing you because of it. 


I agree with most of this(before your "so stop with this).  I just want to say I think you might be slightly guilty of being too emotional on this topic if you took me stating facts about deaths as a slight.  If someone was over 70 years old, that's not a slight.  At worst, it could be incorrect.

And did you just slight me referring to me as a middle aged fat babysitter, or was that just a weird analogy that doesn't make much sense?

3/17/20 1:09 AM
11/20/09
Posts: 42933
Morpheus1976 - 
D241 -

I'm not trying to make a point.  I'm trying to put things into perspective. 

 

68 deaths, all but one over the age of 70, majority of those already had bad health. 

 

Hundreds, perhaps thousands will be without income.  People have a higher chance of looting and rioting from the fallout of all the panic and panic buying more than they would have a risk of getting the virus and dying from it.

 

I know EVERYONE is panicking and media is telling you to panick, but here we are in the ides of March and the death count is still very low, and there are famous people, old famous people who are catching the virus and only experiencing mild symptoms before beating it. 

 

How scared should you be?

first the numbers aren't realistic

second its not so much about the virus itself, but it will overrun the ICU's at the hospital, no more beds for other heavily injured people, like hartattacks,car accidents

happend in China and Italy, Europe has code red and locked downs with martial law

not just for a flu virus, its a killer.


I understand the #'s may not be accurate but I tend to believe the death #'s would be more accurate than cases reported, non cases reported, recoveries...

Hosptial overcrowding does seem like it could be a legit problem.  I haven't heard anything about it being close to a problem around my parts, and hopefully it stays that way.  How about where you are?  I have heard people work in large groups together to build hospitals so that's uplifting and positive, the silver lining if you will.

There's been inconsistencies with what's going on in certain countries.  I think it's still too early to tell where America will be in the mix.  I think a year, 15 months or so we will know a lot more. 

I know you wouldn't because you're cool, but these other guys, they can totally mock me and say how they were right if I'm dead from the corona virus in the next year or so. Over my dead body. 

But if they're still here and in good health with no losses of their own due to the virus, I might, I just might mock these other guys.  You've always been cool though.  I can acknowledge when points are made and your point about hospitals is a valid one.  No arguments there.

 

 

Edited: 3/17/20 1:14 AM
11/20/09
Posts: 42934
jspeed - 
Eskimo -
jspeed -
Eskimo -
Morpheus1976 -
D241 -

As of today March 16th (American only)

  • Total cases: 3,487
  • Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. 

    Thirty-seven deaths (77% of total) are in Washington state.

    Two women in their 90s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
    A woman in her 80s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
    A man in his 70s at Overlake Medical Center died on March 4.
    A man in his 80s at Swedish Issaquah hospital, died on March 9.
    Woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died on March 11.
    Four Washington state deaths are from Snohomish County

    A woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died March 11.
    Woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions died March 10.
    Man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, died March 9 at the Josephine Caring Community
    A man in his 40s with underlying health conditions died but the date has not been specified.
    One Washington State death is from Grant County, a patient in his or her 80s.
    Four deaths are in California:

    A man, 69, who is diabetic and suffered two cardiac arrests, has died.
    One death is in South Dakota:
    A man in his 60s with underlying medical conditions has died.
    One death is in Georgia:

    A woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions has died.

     

they don't test, no testkits, but testing will improve.

on 330 million people, my estimate is 500.000 are infected.

I agree and that’s why this is extremely overblown. 500k infected and less than 100 dead. Whole thing is looking very odd. 

Before this is over there will be hundreds of millions infected and hundreds of thousands dead. 

You're too naive and stupid to understand what's going on around you, but luckily for your family and loved ones, there are people much smarter than you looking after their health and well being.

100’s of thousands dead out of 7 billion people? You’re right, I just didn’t understand. Lol what the fuck is wrong with you? If you’re gonna run around calling everyone dumb at least say 100 million dead. Still a relatively insignificant number for the world, but it sounds better.

Admitting that you think 100,000,000 dying from a virus is relatively insignificant at least summarizes the sort of person that believes this to all be overblown.

 

I couldn't make a stronger case.

 

 

You have a point on this last quote of yours, but for you in March of 2020 to suggest 100's of thousdands will be dead, I think you're being a little close minded and rather extreme.  In no way am I shutting that possability down.  I am however saying that does sound a little extreme and seeing how emotional majority of your post are on this topic, I think you're speaking more out of emotion of the worst possible case scenarios and for some reason have an instinct to argue logic. 

 

I mean look at my recent post, I just acknowled Morpheus' point, as well as I acknowledged your counter point to Eskimo(regarding 100 million dead not being signifcant). 

You can actually see both sides of an argument if you try to debate logically instead of with emotion.  But if it makes you feel better to call me or others ignorant fucks, I'm all for people being healthy and positive :)

3/17/20 1:18 AM
8/2/19
Posts: 1104
D241 -

Cire you are causing more harm than good and I bet you haven't for one second even considered that.

 

People panicking over something this early is doing more harm than good.

People are buying out medical masks and hospitals, doctors, nurses who actually need them are going to be at huge risk because of people like you causing this wide spread panic.  Why can't you worry to yourself?  Why do you have to cause so much drama and worry for people?

 

Are you a woman 70 years old with pre-existing respiroty issues or something?  Quit acting like one.

 

If you want to do good, STOP SPREADINGI FEAR DUDE jesus christ.  You are the problem, not the solution.  Think about this for 1 second what good you "think" you're doing.

 

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Here's D241 accusing Cire of doing more harm then good by simply keeping us updated... But NOW hes talking about how OBVIOULSY "precautions" must be taken looool.  Goof ball. Lol.

3/17/20 1:24 AM
8/2/19
Posts: 1105
D241 -
jspeed - 
Eskimo -
jspeed -
Eskimo -
Morpheus1976 -
D241 -

As of today March 16th (American only)

  • Total cases: 3,487
  • Seems very odd government is shutting so much stuff down with so little cases and deaths.  This virus first was reported December 2019 right?  It's the ides of March and I was expecting the cases to be over 100 thousand with over a thousand deaths. 

    Thirty-seven deaths (77% of total) are in Washington state.

    Two women in their 90s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
    A woman in her 80s at Life Care Center died on March 6.
    A man in his 70s at Overlake Medical Center died on March 4.
    A man in his 80s at Swedish Issaquah hospital, died on March 9.
    Woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died on March 11.
    Four Washington state deaths are from Snohomish County

    A woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions died March 11.
    Woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions died March 10.
    Man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, died March 9 at the Josephine Caring Community
    A man in his 40s with underlying health conditions died but the date has not been specified.
    One Washington State death is from Grant County, a patient in his or her 80s.
    Four deaths are in California:

    A man, 69, who is diabetic and suffered two cardiac arrests, has died.
    One death is in South Dakota:
    A man in his 60s with underlying medical conditions has died.
    One death is in Georgia:

    A woman in her 80s with underlying health conditions has died.

     

they don't test, no testkits, but testing will improve.

on 330 million people, my estimate is 500.000 are infected.

I agree and that’s why this is extremely overblown. 500k infected and less than 100 dead. Whole thing is looking very odd. 

Before this is over there will be hundreds of millions infected and hundreds of thousands dead. 

You're too naive and stupid to understand what's going on around you, but luckily for your family and loved ones, there are people much smarter than you looking after their health and well being.

100’s of thousands dead out of 7 billion people? You’re right, I just didn’t understand. Lol what the fuck is wrong with you? If you’re gonna run around calling everyone dumb at least say 100 million dead. Still a relatively insignificant number for the world, but it sounds better.

Admitting that you think 100,000,000 dying from a virus is relatively insignificant at least summarizes the sort of person that believes this to all be overblown.

 

I couldn't make a stronger case.

 

 

You have a point on this last quote of yours, but for you in March of 2020 to suggest 100's of thousdands will be dead, I think you're being a little close minded and rather extreme.  In no way am I shutting that possability down.  I am however saying that does sound a little extreme and seeing how emotional majority of your post are on this topic, I think you're speaking more out of emotion of the worst possible case scenarios and for some reason have an instinct to argue logic. 

 

I mean look at my recent post, I just acknowled Morpheus' point, as well as I acknowledged your counter point to Eskimo(regarding 100 million dead not being signifcant). 

You can actually see both sides of an argument if you try to debate logically instead of with emotion.  But if it makes you feel better to call me or others ignorant fucks, I'm all for people being healthy and positive :)

The models we have of this disease have been as accurate as you could hope for.  The same models that told us this would climb an order of magnitude every 10 days are the same models that predict we will be at 1M in 19 days.  Of course I always bring up that successful intervention can prevent that trajectory. 

 

So I dont care what you feel or what the other dolt feels or thinks is 'extreme' or overblown... I dont even care what I feel. The math holds as long as there is no intervention.  It has held for every single country so far and is spot on with its predictions.  I dont care if you dont believe it or dont like it l.  It's been right where you've been wrong.

3/17/20 1:35 AM
8/2/19
Posts: 1106

"You can actually see both sides of an argument if you try to debate logically instead of with emotion".

 

Wrong.  Theres the mathematical model side - where you use the best data and models to make predictions.  Or theres the "other" side where you try to use some sort of hand wavy intuition / pseudoknowledge to draw your conclusions.

 I prefer to use the models that have been accurate thus far. You seem to prefer the other route.

3/17/20 1:42 AM
2/7/20
Posts: 76

Hey d241... if you’re so unconcerned about the virus and the impact, and discrediting preparedness... why do you post on these Coronavirus threads like ten times a night? What’s your angle? You just trying to be an antagonist? A troll? ... suuuure preaching positivity and level headed awareness. But always always posting homie. If you aren’t concerned... take a walk 

3/17/20 1:44 AM
4/28/12
Posts: 4542
Bam57Bam -
trobinson21 -

US influenza:

13,000,000 cases

180,000 hospitalizations 

10,000 deaths 

I keep seeing this repeated but no one wants to mention the difference. There problem with coronavirus is it's killing young healthy folks whereas the deaths from flu are usually the elderly or people with immune systems already compromised.

No it isn’t not many anyway

3/17/20 7:08 AM
12/9/13
Posts: 27383
D241 -
Morpheus1976 - 
D241 -

I'm not trying to make a point.  I'm trying to put things into perspective. 

 

68 deaths, all but one over the age of 70, majority of those already had bad health. 

 

Hundreds, perhaps thousands will be without income.  People have a higher chance of looting and rioting from the fallout of all the panic and panic buying more than they would have a risk of getting the virus and dying from it.

 

I know EVERYONE is panicking and media is telling you to panick, but here we are in the ides of March and the death count is still very low, and there are famous people, old famous people who are catching the virus and only experiencing mild symptoms before beating it. 

 

How scared should you be?

first the numbers aren't realistic

second its not so much about the virus itself, but it will overrun the ICU's at the hospital, no more beds for other heavily injured people, like hartattacks,car accidents

happend in China and Italy, Europe has code red and locked downs with martial law

not just for a flu virus, its a killer.


I understand the #'s may not be accurate but I tend to believe the death #'s would be more accurate than cases reported, non cases reported, recoveries...

Hosptial overcrowding does seem like it could be a legit problem.  I haven't heard anything about it being close to a problem around my parts, and hopefully it stays that way.  How about where you are?  I have heard people work in large groups together to build hospitals so that's uplifting and positive, the silver lining if you will.

There's been inconsistencies with what's going on in certain countries.  I think it's still too early to tell where America will be in the mix.  I think a year, 15 months or so we will know a lot more. 

I know you wouldn't because you're cool, but these other guys, they can totally mock me and say how they were right if I'm dead from the corona virus in the next year or so. Over my dead body. 

But if they're still here and in good health with no losses of their own due to the virus, I might, I just might mock these other guys.  You've always been cool though.  I can acknowledge when points are made and your point about hospitals is a valid one.  No arguments there.

 

 

the government goes for "herd immunity" its a death sentence. basically 70% of the people will get the virus to build up immunity for the next wave during the winter of 2021, but if the virus mutates(which already happend) were are fucked.

3/17/20 8:18 AM
12/9/13
Posts: 27384

3/17/20 8:30 AM
2/27/11
Posts: 11203
jspeed -
Toiletclogger -

Not sure if this has been asked/answered here, but why has Hong Kong not been affected much. Don’t they have minimal cases? 

Hong Kong was one of the first (Feb 1st) to put travel restrictions in place, preventing people from China from coming in.  This was a great move and will be discussed in the future I'm sure.

they're also used to wear face masks since the previous infections like SARS and such.

And on that note, i noticed many govt in western europe are not pushing for the use of masks, even the WHO, reasons? I dont know.

But a very good doctor i know advised me to use a mask every times i go outside, it might not protect me 100% but it helps FOR SURE.

Just keep in mind that just because you have a mask you cant go around in public and be careless.

Also it helps a shitton to protect OTHERS from yourself, and seeing we might already have like 20% of the population infected with the large majority not knowing it and being asymptomatic that makes a huge recipe for disaster.

 

3/17/20 8:34 AM
12/18/19
Posts: 184

Why is everyone so angry?