What if ... C. Booker just said, black males are 6% of the pop

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ulation, but are 55% of the homicide victims.

Can someone tell me what percentage of those homicide victims are killed by other african americans?


the funny thing is this dude really thought he had a point of some sort.

He does have a point .... black men are far more likely to get murdered than white men. That their murderers share the same skin color doesn't change that.

However, if Corey Booker (or any politician) really gave a shit about dead black people, he'd talk about the genocide of black babies by the abortion industry. A number of large cities abort more black babies than are delivered alive. The only place more deadly for a black man (or woman) than on the street is in the womb. It is the single biggest reason that the black population has remained static as a percentage for the last 50 years, while other minority groups have experienced explosive growth.

no its not

 

other minorities have experienced exlposive growth because our borders are almost wide open.

 

asian and hipsanic growth has come from immigration, not birth rates. the US is only 5% of the world population, with a lax immigration policy and the desireabilty of our country to live in we're being flooded.

 

asian and hispanic immigrants birth rates plummet when they come to the US too.

Maybe this is when brainwashing the world with ideas that your country is the best in the world backfires because every third worlder now wants to come there.


Ah yes, we're "brainwashing" people into thinking we have the largest, strongest economy in the world
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6% are males but let's say half of those are either very young or old. Let's say 3% of that 6% are males between 15-35

Essentially, around 3% account for over half of the murders. Crazy.

 

Fucking Trump!


Crazy. Such a HUGE issue going on, I mean it's gigantic, not only murders, but for violent crimes in general, work, schools. etc. Yet according to mainstream media, all that doesn't even exist, White Men are evil and so on.

I mean, that's Soviet/dictatorship level distortion of facts and supposedly our media are free and serve many different masters/owners/"the Truth". Certainly not State controlled as in dictatorships. Unbelievable to me. I can't and don't want to get used to these lying fucks.

All the media wants to talk about is a few hundred blue-on-black killings and few hundred killings from mass shootings, while ignoring the tens of thousands of black-on-black killings. It's a Stalinist outlook on murder. A few dozen/hundred killings with a particular method are tragedies (and therefore worthy of coverage), while tens of thousands of them in black neighborhoods are just statistics (and can be ignored).

It is a Stalinist outlook on murder. But it is multifaceted - media want to talk about things that draw attention so ghetto murders barely get covered. BUT, they also push an agenda where Blacks are in the "victim" and "oppressed" class and the Evil White Men/Society and its police force are the oppressors. 1000s of Black on White crimes are ignored! Including blatant racist "youths" attacking Whites. It's crazy t o me.

And Stalin controlled his media. My point was that ours is supposed to be somewhat "free", or at least controlled by different groups with opposing views, so how come this blatant distortion of facts is going on?
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ulation, but are 55% of the homicide victims.

Can someone tell me what percentage of those homicide victims are killed by other african americans?


the funny thing is this dude really thought he had a point of some sort.

He does have a point .... black men are far more likely to get murdered than white men. That their murderers share the same skin color doesn't change that.

However, if Corey Booker (or any politician) really gave a shit about dead black people, he'd talk about the genocide of black babies by the abortion industry. A number of large cities abort more black babies than are delivered alive. The only place more deadly for a black man (or woman) than on the street is in the womb. It is the single biggest reason that the black population has remained static as a percentage for the last 50 years, while other minority groups have experienced explosive growth.

no its not

 

other minorities have experienced exlposive growth because our borders are almost wide open.

 

asian and hipsanic growth has come from immigration, not birth rates. the US is only 5% of the world population, with a lax immigration policy and the desireabilty of our country to live in we're being flooded.

 

asian and hispanic immigrants birth rates plummet when they come to the US too.

Maybe this is when brainwashing the world with ideas that your country is the best in the world backfires because every third worlder now wants to come there.


Ah yes, we're "brainwashing" people into thinking we have the largest, strongest economy in the world

Well, I'm a fan of the US. But pretending for example your homeless problem isn't insanely large for a western country is closing your eyes to reality. 

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I would like to know the rest of his statement and where he was trying to go with it.

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ulation, but are 55% of the homicide victims.

Can someone tell me what percentage of those homicide victims are killed by other african americans?


the funny thing is this dude really thought he had a point of some sort.

He does have a point .... black men are far more likely to get murdered than white men. That their murderers share the same skin color doesn't change that.

However, if Corey Booker (or any politician) really gave a shit about dead black people, he'd talk about the genocide of black babies by the abortion industry. A number of large cities abort more black babies than are delivered alive. The only place more deadly for a black man (or woman) than on the street is in the womb. It is the single biggest reason that the black population has remained static as a percentage for the last 50 years, while other minority groups have experienced explosive growth.

no its not

 

other minorities have experienced exlposive growth because our borders are almost wide open.

 

asian and hipsanic growth has come from immigration, not birth rates. the US is only 5% of the world population, with a lax immigration policy and the desireabilty of our country to live in we're being flooded.

 

asian and hispanic immigrants birth rates plummet when they come to the US too.

Maybe this is when brainwashing the world with ideas that your country is the best in the world backfires because every third worlder now wants to come there.


Ah yes, we're "brainwashing" people into thinking we have the largest, strongest economy in the world

Well, I'm a fan of the US. But pretending for example your homeless problem isn't insanely large for a western country is closing your eyes to reality. 

let in the 3rd world and you get the thirdl world

 

we've been doing this massive immigration thing foir a while, its starting to fray us at the seams

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ulation, but are 55% of the homicide victims.

Can someone tell me what percentage of those homicide victims are killed by other african americans?


the funny thing is this dude really thought he had a point of some sort.

He does have a point .... black men are far more likely to get murdered than white men. That their murderers share the same skin color doesn't change that.

However, if Corey Booker (or any politician) really gave a shit about dead black people, he'd talk about the genocide of black babies by the abortion industry. A number of large cities abort more black babies than are delivered alive. The only place more deadly for a black man (or woman) than on the street is in the womb. It is the single biggest reason that the black population has remained static as a percentage for the last 50 years, while other minority groups have experienced explosive growth.

no its not

 

other minorities have experienced exlposive growth because our borders are almost wide open.

 

asian and hipsanic growth has come from immigration, not birth rates. the US is only 5% of the world population, with a lax immigration policy and the desireabilty of our country to live in we're being flooded.

 

asian and hispanic immigrants birth rates plummet when they come to the US too.

Maybe this is when brainwashing the world with ideas that your country is the best in the world backfires because every third worlder now wants to come there.

they want to go anywhere but whatever shithole they're in

 

im glad hollywood has started telling everyoen what an aoppressive racist shithole america is now.

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ulation, but are 55% of the homicide victims.

Can someone tell me what percentage of those homicide victims are killed by other african americans?


the funny thing is this dude really thought he had a point of some sort.

He does have a point .... black men are far more likely to get murdered than white men. That their murderers share the same skin color doesn't change that.

However, if Corey Booker (or any politician) really gave a shit about dead black people, he'd talk about the genocide of black babies by the abortion industry. A number of large cities abort more black babies than are delivered alive. The only place more deadly for a black man (or woman) than on the street is in the womb. It is the single biggest reason that the black population has remained static as a percentage for the last 50 years, while other minority groups have experienced explosive growth.

no its not

 

other minorities have experienced exlposive growth because our borders are almost wide open.

 

asian and hipsanic growth has come from immigration, not birth rates. the US is only 5% of the world population, with a lax immigration policy and the desireabilty of our country to live in we're being flooded.

 

asian and hispanic immigrants birth rates plummet when they come to the US too.

Maybe this is when brainwashing the world with ideas that your country is the best in the world backfires because every third worlder now wants to come there.


Ah yes, we're "brainwashing" people into thinking we have the largest, strongest economy in the world

Well, I'm a fan of the US. But pretending for example your homeless problem isn't insanely large for a western country is closing your eyes to reality. 

let in the 3rd world and you get the thirdl world

 

we've been doing this massive immigration thing foir a while, its starting to fray us at the seams

Yeah here in Sweden we're going in the same direction.

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ulation, but are 55% of the homicide victims.

Can someone tell me what percentage of those homicide victims are killed by other african americans?


the funny thing is this dude really thought he had a point of some sort.

He does have a point .... black men are far more likely to get murdered than white men. That their murderers share the same skin color doesn't change that.

However, if Corey Booker (or any politician) really gave a shit about dead black people, he'd talk about the genocide of black babies by the abortion industry. A number of large cities abort more black babies than are delivered alive. The only place more deadly for a black man (or woman) than on the street is in the womb. It is the single biggest reason that the black population has remained static as a percentage for the last 50 years, while other minority groups have experienced explosive growth.

no its not

 

other minorities have experienced exlposive growth because our borders are almost wide open.

 

asian and hipsanic growth has come from immigration, not birth rates. the US is only 5% of the world population, with a lax immigration policy and the desireabilty of our country to live in we're being flooded.

 

asian and hispanic immigrants birth rates plummet when they come to the US too.

Maybe this is when brainwashing the world with ideas that your country is the best in the world backfires because every third worlder now wants to come there.

they want to go anywhere but whatever shithole they're in

 

im glad hollywood has started telling everyoen what an aoppressive racist shithole america is now.

I think that's too late.

Hollywood oppressive is calling a man in a dress sir.

Shithole oppressive is murdering entire family trees of dissidents.

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ulation, but are 55% of the homicide victims.

Can someone tell me what percentage of those homicide victims are killed by other african americans?


the funny thing is this dude really thought he had a point of some sort.

He does have a point .... black men are far more likely to get murdered than white men. That their murderers share the same skin color doesn't change that.

However, if Corey Booker (or any politician) really gave a shit about dead black people, he'd talk about the genocide of black babies by the abortion industry. A number of large cities abort more black babies than are delivered alive. The only place more deadly for a black man (or woman) than on the street is in the womb. It is the single biggest reason that the black population has remained static as a percentage for the last 50 years, while other minority groups have experienced explosive growth.

no its not

 

other minorities have experienced exlposive growth because our borders are almost wide open.

 

asian and hipsanic growth has come from immigration, not birth rates. the US is only 5% of the world population, with a lax immigration policy and the desireabilty of our country to live in we're being flooded.

 

asian and hispanic immigrants birth rates plummet when they come to the US too.

Maybe this is when brainwashing the world with ideas that your country is the best in the world backfires because every third worlder now wants to come there.


Ah yes, we're "brainwashing" people into thinking we have the largest, strongest economy in the world

Well, I'm a fan of the US. But pretending for example your homeless problem isn't insanely large for a western country is closing your eyes to reality. 

let in the 3rd world and you get the thirdl world

 

we've been doing this massive immigration thing foir a while, its starting to fray us at the seams

Yeah here in Sweden we're going in the same direction.

Going?

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Can we get a clip, or at least the full context? 

I really want to know why he brought that up and what point he thought he was making.

All murder if primarily intra-racial, the overwhelming majority being white on white, black on black, etc.

However when it comes to inter racial murder, there are less white on black killings, than their are black on white, consistantly.

If he's wanting to talk about the fact that a group that makes up 4% or so of the US population accounts for over 50% of all violent crime including murder (again of mostly people within their own race) I'm all ears.

If it's more of this let's raise quotas for hiring/college, mandate that black kids can't be suspended from schools anymore, dump money into primarily black inner city schools with no real positive outcome as a result then I'll pass.

Eventually someone has to get real and figure out how that can be stopped that isn't simply "give people more free shit" and have the conversation where people realize it's not some external force to be scared of, it's perpetuating the same violent and vicious cycle that hurts their own people.

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This is from 2016 on the FBI website... oddly after that they don't post them for the 2017,2018 years... maybe the numbers aren't in yet?


Statistics on the Fed level are updated every 5 years usually
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And this is in the polticalground beacuse...?

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Black men make up 55% of homicide victims. Now what is the percentage of homicide perpetrators? What percentage of those 55% are black on black? It is to bad he didn’t finish the thought.

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ulation, but are 55% of the homicide victims.

Can someone tell me what percentage of those homicide victims are killed by other african americans?


the funny thing is this dude really thought he had a point of some sort.

He does have a point .... black men are far more likely to get murdered than white men. That their murderers share the same skin color doesn't change that.

However, if Corey Booker (or any politician) really gave a shit about dead black people, he'd talk about the genocide of black babies by the abortion industry. A number of large cities abort more black babies than are delivered alive. The only place more deadly for a black man (or woman) than on the street is in the womb. It is the single biggest reason that the black population has remained static as a percentage for the last 50 years, while other minority groups have experienced explosive growth.

sounds like a black person problem to me?

How's whitey suppose to help black Mama's be good black Mama's?

 

Now when black folks start killing white people, babys or otherwise then whitey can help them out via death and/or incarceration.

 

Fact is fact blacks have and will always be fucked everywhere.

They only ones that have a half a chance are the light skinned ones that pass or are straight up oreos.

 


Whitey needs to STOP trying to fix things for black America, because he screws it up every time. Blacks were making solid economic progress in the 100 years between the restoration and the civil rights movement. Then the nanny state stepped in to 'fix things' and everything went to shit.

Welfare pretty much destroyed the black nuclear family. Up until the 1960s, blacks and whites had nearly the same percentage of two-parent households. Now nearly three-quarters of black fathers are at best an intermittent presence in their children's lives (and often no presence at all).

The war on drugs was supposed to make black neighborhoods safer. It did the opposite. It was supposed to help reduce black substance abuse. It did the opposite.

Obama's school discipline reforms were supposed to improve black student outcomes in American public schools. It made them worse .... for everybody. It also made them much more dangerous.

The list goes on and on. Almost every government program put in place to help black people has hurt them instead.

That was all by design, not a screw up. Same as flooding Appalachia with pain meds. Controlling poor people has always been a priority. 


I disagree.

I don't believe there is some Machiavellian plan to do harm to poor Americans. That is where I draw the line between legitimate criticism of the government and conspiracy theories.

I refuse to believe there is some purely evil oligarch class that intentionally put millions of their fellow Americans through pain and misery. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions, and I truly believe that every awful, shitty government program that has backfired was put in place with the best intentions, even though most of them amount to nothing more than magical thinking.

The real problem is a failure to acknowledge past failures. We see it all the time with socialists and their 'real socialism' arguments that by God we'll get it right next time, when the entire history of the 20th-21st century tells us that planned economies are doomed to failure. The same is true of all of these 'wars' against social issues. Nobody ever stops to see whether the billions flushed down on the toilet on the 'war on drugs', 'war on poverty', 'war on homelessness' etc. have done anything to accomplish their goal.

Bureaucrats would rather keep burning money doing the same shit that hasn't worked for the past 50 years rather than admit they are abysmal failures. Einstein would call that insanity. As Ronald Reagan said 'Government programs once launched never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth'.

If you don't think there is a class of oligarchs manipulating poor people for their enrichment and at the poor's peril, then you're the most naive fucker on the planet. 


Do I believe there are oligarchs out there manipulating people for their own profit? Sure.

Do I believe they are intentionally creating bad outcomes that create pain and misery? No.

I think the oligarchs want a happy, pliant, productive labor force, not an angry and vengeful one. Exploiting the peasants is one thing. Making them so miserable they start lashing out and disrupting the system is something entirely different. That's how you wind up with Trump, or Brexit, or in the most extreme case, the Terror. Nobody in the oligarch class wants to see the guillotines come out again.

I had forgotten all about this thread, but given the events of the last few weeks, this post in particular holds up well. The oligarch class didn't want this shit. The mass civil disorder is costing them trillions. Plus, we've already seen the rhetorical guillotines coming out, and the distance between rhetoric and actions is getting uncomfortably small.