PoliticalGround Conservatives Happier Than Liberals??

 OK, lets count the conservative and Republican "dillusions":

"Fraser is a prime example of a media created liberal. Wow just Wow... Fraser, all I want you to do is do some real research. Here's a good topic to research. Look which party it was that passed the equal rights amendment and which party it was that shot it down."

1) I am a "media created liberal". LOL! I reach my positions by thinking about issues, and not all the conclusions I reach are liberal ones. I can back up this statement by providing arguments, rather than flinging out unsupported platitudes. This is an empty insult, and an attempt to make the world (in this case, me) fit into easy-to-understand boxes. A simple world is a happy one! "Dillusion".

2) The Republicans which supported the ERA are the Republicans of today. Please, that's like saying Bush is from the party of Lincoln. Technically it's true... in reality it's a "dillusion".

"Newsflash Fraser - Democrats are opposed to gay marriage and drug prohibition also."

3) Actually, according to this FOX News poll the majority of people support legal recognition of gay relationships in some form. I think your numbers are outdated, or maybe just a "dillusion".

4) Democrats as well as Conservatives are "opposed to drug prohibition"? I think you misunderstand what "prohibition" means. You basically just said that conservatives want to legalize drugs. That's certainly a "dillusion". And the point is that the party of supposed smaller government is actually in favor of controlling our lives on certain "moral" issues. The views of Democrats have nothing to do with that, this is the fallacy of irrelevant conclusion "dillusion".

"LOL @ the hypocrisy of that statement. I'm not a bigoted control freak, but I'm going to slam Christians for their beliefs and label them while trying to change/control a centuries old tradition because I think a man putting his cock in another man's ass is the highest virtue imaginable."

5) Ah, LeShat. King of the "dillusional" conservatives. If you bothered to read with comprehension you'd see I  wasn't slamming Christianity, I was slamming using the bible to dictate public policy. Those are two different things, but not to your "dillusional" mind. But why think about discerning between the two? Choose the simple road, as usual.

6) Just because something is old, doesn't make it correct, or the basis for a Constitutional Amendment. That's a "dillusion".

7) Strawman "dillusion" anyone? Personally I think male anal sex is gross, but because I can think objectively I don't think that because something is gross it should affect human rights. You would have to be "dillusional" to hold that view.

"Apparently the people who aren't ignorant refuse to do anything about the problems (like donate time and money), they just decide to be miserable about it. Sounds like a real smart plan for life."

8) You are correct that left-leaning people tend to be more educated, that's no "dillusion". But you are incorrect that dealing with problems and having compassion are mutually exclusive. I donate plenty of time and money, but I still have the ability to sympathize with those less fortunate. I think that's far less "dillusional" than pretending the world is a great place because I personally am successful. That's the "sometimes it's not all about you "dillusion".

Hope this clears things up a little.

Fraser - 

8) You are correct that left-leaning people tend to be more educated, that's no "dillusion". But you are incorrect that dealing with problems and having compassion are mutually exclusive. I donate plenty of time and money, but I still have the ability to sympathize with those less fortunate. I think that's far less "dillusional" than pretending the world is a great place because I personally am successful. That's the "sometimes it's not all about you "dillusion".

Hope this clears things up a little.

Actually the exact opposite is true. A person is more than twice as likely to be left-leaning if they fail to finish high school. That's a fact done through research by the Pew Institute.

 

"you'd see I wasn't slamming Christianity, I was slamming using the bible to dictate public policy."

Yes you were, you slammed the core of their faith, ie the Bible, and called them bigots because they disagree on what homosexuality is.

P.S. please don't fool yourself into thinking that your knee jerk reactions are complex, liberal beliefs are always the simple and easy road, education, economy, society, etc.....always.

"2) The Republicans which supported the ERA are the Republicans of today. Please, that's like saying Bush is from the party of Lincoln. Technically it's true... in reality it's a "dillusion"."


and I say the Democrats of today are not the party of FDR..Just a bunch of socialists..


As far a Gay Marriage...If the numbers you sight are true (I'm a libertarian and for gay marriage) why then did Bill Clinton Sign the Defense of Marriage Act?



The Defense of Marriage Act, or DOMA, is the commonly-used name of a federal law of the United States that is officially known as Pub. L. No. 104-199, 110 Stat. 2419 (Sept. 21, 1996) and codified at 1 U.S.C. § 7 and 28 U.S.C. § 1738C. The law has two effects.

No state (or other political subdivision within the United States) need treat a relationship between persons of the same sex as a marriage, even if the relationship is considered a marriage in another state.
The Federal Government may not treat same-sex relationships as marriages for any purpose, even if concluded or recognized by one of the states.
The bill was passed by Congress by a vote of 85-14 in the Senate[1] and a vote of 342-67 in the House of Representatives[2], and was signed by President Bill Clinton on September 21, 1996.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act

conservatives are happier because ignorance is bliss. they hold on to dogma for dear life, close their eyes, and bend over for the people they vote for.

red states are red because the GOP doesnt use lube.

 Middle of the road people are probably happiest because they don't have to conform all their views to whatever their "leaders'  tell them is right.  Unfortunately MOR people should get fucked from both sides.

 

MOR people are least happy because of all of the effort from thinking for themselves.

Good thread!

 

Le Shat

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This is about the least surprising thing I have ever heard.  More people are unhappy and sick than there are truly happy people out there, that is why the wiorld is getting increasingly progressive.  The happiest people in the US are the Amish, and they stay with their families their whole life, will not accept more than a fixed wage of like 20 an hour, do the best work out there, are profoundly spiritiually rooted, dont drink/drug/etc, dont use technology and still work with horses, etc.  I can attest that the happiest I ever was (and Ive lived in dozens of places) was living in the country when I had a farm, working hard from sun up to sun down, riding to the local store on my horse and becoming unplugged from society.  The most unhappy I was while I was in the city slaying pussy and partying all the time.