PoliticalGround Mueller Giving Tony Podesta Immunity.

7/19/18 10:55 PM
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If manafort pleads guilty, no need to give Podesta immunity, right?

Why wasn't Podesta charged, and Manafort? 

Why do the DNC always get away with it?

Manafort is not going to plead guilty. It's reported that the investigation is in the final stages, and Mueller needs a big scalp to show that the investigation wasn''t a waste of tax payers money. My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.


Why are you guessing? Manafort was first indicted in October of last year.

Podesta isn't charged because this special counsel is assigned to investigate the Trump campaign for any coordination with Russia, and any crimes that arise as the result of the investigation per the appointment document.

In the Manafort case -- they have been arguing for nearly 9 months about the legitimacy of the special counsel, and their authority to charge a crime like those dealing with Manafort's non-campaign work in Ukraine. Mueller has won those pre-trial motions, but it would be much harder to do that if charging Podesta (who was not affiliated with the campaign whatsoever, so you then have to argue why you are charging someone who didn't commit the crime during the campaign, but who wasn't even a part of it).

But as I mentioned -- the DOJ claims that they are going to pursue FARA violations aggressively to combat foreign influence going forward, so you could see Podesta charged outside of the special counsel potentially. That likely would have already happened though.

What are you talking about? Everyone not associated with the investigators are guessing/predicting at this point, including you, the MSM, and everyone on this forum. Manafort up to this point hasn't blinked and has pleaded not guilty on everything. It been reported by numerous news outlets that the investigation is likely winding down. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-pushing-to-wrap-up-parts-of-russia-probe-faces-question-of-american-involvement/2018/07/14/4bdcef90-8786-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html?utm_term=.6572f5045d70

 

 

7/19/18 10:58 PM
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Mueller is tightening that noose around Manafort until his head pops. 

 

Podesta bros had business deals with Manafort years ago.

 

I bet the "immunity" is "testify in court of his wrong doings, and we will only give you a slight peepee slap.


I want my peepee slapped.
7/19/18 11:00 PM
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If manafort pleads guilty, no need to give Podesta immunity, right?

Why wasn't Podesta charged, and Manafort? 

Why do the DNC always get away with it?

Manafort is not going to plead guilty. It's reported that the investigation is in the final stages, and Mueller needs a big scalp to show that the investigation wasn''t a waste of tax payers money. My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.


Why are you guessing? Manafort was first indicted in October of last year.

Podesta isn't charged because this special counsel is assigned to investigate the Trump campaign for any coordination with Russia, and any crimes that arise as the result of the investigation per the appointment document.

In the Manafort case -- they have been arguing for nearly 9 months about the legitimacy of the special counsel, and their authority to charge a crime like those dealing with Manafort's non-campaign work in Ukraine. Mueller has won those pre-trial motions, but it would be much harder to do that if charging Podesta (who was not affiliated with the campaign whatsoever, so you then have to argue why you are charging someone who didn't commit the crime during the campaign, but who wasn't even a part of it).

But as I mentioned -- the DOJ claims that they are going to pursue FARA violations aggressively to combat foreign influence going forward, so you could see Podesta charged outside of the special counsel potentially. That likely would have already happened though.

What are you talking about? Everyone not associated with the investigators are guessing/predicting at this point, including you, the MSM, and everyone on this forum. Manafort up to this point hasn't blinked and has pleaded not guilty on everything. It been reported by numerous news outlets that the investigation is likely winding down. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-pushing-to-wrap-up-parts-of-russia-probe-faces-question-of-american-involvement/2018/07/14/4bdcef90-8786-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html?utm_term=.6572f5045d70

 

 

You wrote, “My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.”

You don’t have to guess about that. He has already been charged multiple times with superseding indictments even. He’s facing more than 30 counts. He opted for trials in two different venues — one in Virgina starts next week unless delayed. Another in D.C. set for September. 

So, what are you guessing?

Edited: 7/19/18 11:07 PM
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If manafort pleads guilty, no need to give Podesta immunity, right?

Why wasn't Podesta charged, and Manafort? 

Why do the DNC always get away with it?

Manafort is not going to plead guilty. It's reported that the investigation is in the final stages, and Mueller needs a big scalp to show that the investigation wasn''t a waste of tax payers money. My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.

 

Why are you guessing? Manafort was first indicted in October of last year.

Podesta isn't charged because this special counsel is assigned to investigate the Trump campaign for any coordination with Russia, and any crimes that arise as the result of the investigation per the appointment document.

In the Manafort case -- they have been arguing for nearly 9 months about the legitimacy of the special counsel, and their authority to charge a crime like those dealing with Manafort's non-campaign work in Ukraine. Mueller has won those pre-trial motions, but it would be much harder to do that if charging Podesta (who was not affiliated with the campaign whatsoever, so you then have to argue why you are charging someone who didn't commit the crime during the campaign, but who wasn't even a part of it).

But as I mentioned -- the DOJ claims that they are going to pursue FARA violations aggressively to combat foreign influence going forward, so you could see Podesta charged outside of the special counsel potentially. That likely would have already happened though.

What are you talking about? Everyone not associated with the investigators are guessing/predicting at this point, including you, the MSM, and everyone on this forum. Manafort up to this point hasn't blinked and has pleaded not guilty on everything. It been reported by numerous news outlets that the investigation is likely winding down. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-pushing-to-wrap-up-parts-of-russia-probe-faces-question-of-american-involvement/2018/07/14/4bdcef90-8786-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html?utm_term=.6572f5045d70

 

 

You wrote, “My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.”

You don’t have to guess about that. He has already been charged multiple times with superseding indictments even. He’s facing more than 30 counts. He opted for trials in two different venues — one in Virgina starts next week unless delayed. Another in D.C. set for September. 

So, what are you guessing?

How about threw instead of throw and would instead of will, that better cunt? I guess your mother would swallow my man batter, given the chance. Is that proper enough for you? 

7/19/18 11:07 PM
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If manafort pleads guilty, no need to give Podesta immunity, right?

Why wasn't Podesta charged, and Manafort? 

Why do the DNC always get away with it?

Manafort is not going to plead guilty. It's reported that the investigation is in the final stages, and Mueller needs a big scalp to show that the investigation wasn''t a waste of tax payers money. My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.


Why are you guessing? Manafort was first indicted in October of last year.

Podesta isn't charged because this special counsel is assigned to investigate the Trump campaign for any coordination with Russia, and any crimes that arise as the result of the investigation per the appointment document.

In the Manafort case -- they have been arguing for nearly 9 months about the legitimacy of the special counsel, and their authority to charge a crime like those dealing with Manafort's non-campaign work in Ukraine. Mueller has won those pre-trial motions, but it would be much harder to do that if charging Podesta (who was not affiliated with the campaign whatsoever, so you then have to argue why you are charging someone who didn't commit the crime during the campaign, but who wasn't even a part of it).

But as I mentioned -- the DOJ claims that they are going to pursue FARA violations aggressively to combat foreign influence going forward, so you could see Podesta charged outside of the special counsel potentially. That likely would have already happened though.

What are you talking about? Everyone not associated with the investigators are guessing/predicting at this point, including you, the MSM, and everyone on this forum. Manafort up to this point hasn't blinked and has pleaded not guilty on everything. It been reported by numerous news outlets that the investigation is likely winding down. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-pushing-to-wrap-up-parts-of-russia-probe-faces-question-of-american-involvement/2018/07/14/4bdcef90-8786-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html?utm_term=.6572f5045d70

 

 

Your linked article offers a different perspective than what you are portraying, although he has clearly established Russian interference and campaign connections via the work already produced. It is moving fast for sure. Here’s how the WaPo describes it in the article: 

‘... people familiar with the investigation said the special counsel is pushing to wrap up a significant portion of his investigative work by the end of summer.

There are various factors that could alter Mueller’s efforts and timeline, most notably whether the standoff over an interview with Trump is resolved or ends up being litigated in court, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be able to discuss an ongoing investigation.

As recently as this week, Mueller’s team has discussed interviewing more witnesses, a sign that a part of the probe remains very active, a person familiar with the matter said.

Mueller has discussed scenarios for winding down at least some of his office’s work in the coming months, the people said, emphasizing that the special counsel views his primary responsibility to be investigating — not necessarily prosecuting — any wrongdoing linked to the Russian interference efforts...

... Former federal prosecutors noted that investigators often approach a case as if it has the concentric circles of a target — starting with the larger circles and moving inward.

“It’s standard practice to start at the outside of the misconduct and work towards the center,” said David Kris, who oversaw national security matters at the Justice Department in the Obama administration. “Depending on what other evidence Mueller has, it might start to look like the walls are starting to close in on the president and his closest associates.”...

... Friday’s Russian hacking indictment revealed an astonishing level of detail, which means that intelligence and law enforcement officials were prepared to expose valuable sources and methods to make a public case, said Aloke Chakravarty, a former Justice Department attorney who prosecuted the Boston Marathon bombing.

“If they can do that in a way they can prove beyond reasonable doubt, it opens up all the connections that a conspiracy might have: the facilitators, the aiders and abettors,” he said, adding that the indictment could be used as a springboard to bring other conspiracy charges later.”

Edited: 7/19/18 11:13 PM
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If manafort pleads guilty, no need to give Podesta immunity, right?

Why wasn't Podesta charged, and Manafort? 

Why do the DNC always get away with it?

Manafort is not going to plead guilty. It's reported that the investigation is in the final stages, and Mueller needs a big scalp to show that the investigation wasn''t a waste of tax payers money. My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.

 

Why are you guessing? Manafort was first indicted in October of last year.

Podesta isn't charged because this special counsel is assigned to investigate the Trump campaign for any coordination with Russia, and any crimes that arise as the result of the investigation per the appointment document.

In the Manafort case -- they have been arguing for nearly 9 months about the legitimacy of the special counsel, and their authority to charge a crime like those dealing with Manafort's non-campaign work in Ukraine. Mueller has won those pre-trial motions, but it would be much harder to do that if charging Podesta (who was not affiliated with the campaign whatsoever, so you then have to argue why you are charging someone who didn't commit the crime during the campaign, but who wasn't even a part of it).

But as I mentioned -- the DOJ claims that they are going to pursue FARA violations aggressively to combat foreign influence going forward, so you could see Podesta charged outside of the special counsel potentially. That likely would have already happened though.

What are you talking about? Everyone not associated with the investigators are guessing/predicting at this point, including you, the MSM, and everyone on this forum. Manafort up to this point hasn't blinked and has pleaded not guilty on everything. It been reported by numerous news outlets that the investigation is likely winding down. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-pushing-to-wrap-up-parts-of-russia-probe-faces-question-of-american-involvement/2018/07/14/4bdcef90-8786-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html?utm_term=.6572f5045d70

 

 

Your linked article offers a different perspective than what you are portraying, although he has clearly established Russian interference and campaign connections via the work already produced. It is moving fast for sure. Here’s how the WaPo describes it in the article: 

‘... people familiar with the investigation said the special counsel is pushing to wrap up a significant portion of his investigative work by the end of summer.

There are various factors that could alter Mueller’s efforts and timeline, most notably whether the standoff over an interview with Trump is resolved or ends up being litigated in court, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be able to discuss an ongoing investigation.

As recently as this week, Mueller’s team has discussed interviewing more witnesses, a sign that a part of the probe remains very active, a person familiar with the matter said.

Mueller has discussed scenarios for winding down at least some of his office’s work in the coming months, the people said, emphasizing that the special counsel views his primary responsibility to be investigating — not necessarily prosecuting — any wrongdoing linked to the Russian interference efforts...

... Former federal prosecutors noted that investigators often approach a case as if it has the concentric circles of a target — starting with the larger circles and moving inward.

“It’s standard practice to start at the outside of the misconduct and work towards the center,” said David Kris, who oversaw national security matters at the Justice Department in the Obama administration. “Depending on what other evidence Mueller has, it might start to look like the walls are starting to close in on the president and his closest associates.”...

... Friday’s Russian hacking indictment revealed an astonishing level of detail, which means that intelligence and law enforcement officials were prepared to expose valuable sources and methods to make a public case, said Aloke Chakravarty, a former Justice Department attorney who prosecuted the Boston Marathon bombing.

“If they can do that in a way they can prove beyond reasonable doubt, it opens up all the connections that a conspiracy might have: the facilitators, the aiders and abettors,” he said, adding that the indictment could be used as a springboard to bring other conspiracy charges later.”

Here is another. I'm catching a whiff of "this investigation isn't going the way I thought it would" from you. Nice.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/as-the-russia-investigation-approaches-its-final-stages-what-has-it-accomplished-1278776899574

7/19/18 11:11 PM
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If manafort pleads guilty, no need to give Podesta immunity, right?

Why wasn't Podesta charged, and Manafort? 

Why do the DNC always get away with it?

Manafort is not going to plead guilty. It's reported that the investigation is in the final stages, and Mueller needs a big scalp to show that the investigation wasn''t a waste of tax payers money. My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.

 

Why are you guessing? Manafort was first indicted in October of last year.

Podesta isn't charged because this special counsel is assigned to investigate the Trump campaign for any coordination with Russia, and any crimes that arise as the result of the investigation per the appointment document.

In the Manafort case -- they have been arguing for nearly 9 months about the legitimacy of the special counsel, and their authority to charge a crime like those dealing with Manafort's non-campaign work in Ukraine. Mueller has won those pre-trial motions, but it would be much harder to do that if charging Podesta (who was not affiliated with the campaign whatsoever, so you then have to argue why you are charging someone who didn't commit the crime during the campaign, but who wasn't even a part of it).

But as I mentioned -- the DOJ claims that they are going to pursue FARA violations aggressively to combat foreign influence going forward, so you could see Podesta charged outside of the special counsel potentially. That likely would have already happened though.

What are you talking about? Everyone not associated with the investigators are guessing/predicting at this point, including you, the MSM, and everyone on this forum. Manafort up to this point hasn't blinked and has pleaded not guilty on everything. It been reported by numerous news outlets that the investigation is likely winding down. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-pushing-to-wrap-up-parts-of-russia-probe-faces-question-of-american-involvement/2018/07/14/4bdcef90-8786-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html?utm_term=.6572f5045d70

 

 

You wrote, “My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.”

You don’t have to guess about that. He has already been charged multiple times with superseding indictments even. He’s facing more than 30 counts. He opted for trials in two different venues — one in Virgina starts next week unless delayed. Another in D.C. set for September. 

So, what are you guessing?

How about threw instead of throw and would instead of will, that better cunt? I guess your mother would swallow my man batter, given the chance. Is that proper enough for you? 

Well... that properly clarifies it in my book. Thank you. 

& yes — Manafort is a big fish for them. The DOJ is claiming they will take seriously violations against unregistered foreign agents and that is a result of this case. 

7/19/18 11:20 PM
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If manafort pleads guilty, no need to give Podesta immunity, right?

Why wasn't Podesta charged, and Manafort? 

Why do the DNC always get away with it?

Manafort is not going to plead guilty. It's reported that the investigation is in the final stages, and Mueller needs a big scalp to show that the investigation wasn''t a waste of tax payers money. My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.

 

Why are you guessing? Manafort was first indicted in October of last year.

Podesta isn't charged because this special counsel is assigned to investigate the Trump campaign for any coordination with Russia, and any crimes that arise as the result of the investigation per the appointment document.

In the Manafort case -- they have been arguing for nearly 9 months about the legitimacy of the special counsel, and their authority to charge a crime like those dealing with Manafort's non-campaign work in Ukraine. Mueller has won those pre-trial motions, but it would be much harder to do that if charging Podesta (who was not affiliated with the campaign whatsoever, so you then have to argue why you are charging someone who didn't commit the crime during the campaign, but who wasn't even a part of it).

But as I mentioned -- the DOJ claims that they are going to pursue FARA violations aggressively to combat foreign influence going forward, so you could see Podesta charged outside of the special counsel potentially. That likely would have already happened though.

What are you talking about? Everyone not associated with the investigators are guessing/predicting at this point, including you, the MSM, and everyone on this forum. Manafort up to this point hasn't blinked and has pleaded not guilty on everything. It been reported by numerous news outlets that the investigation is likely winding down. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-pushing-to-wrap-up-parts-of-russia-probe-faces-question-of-american-involvement/2018/07/14/4bdcef90-8786-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html?utm_term=.6572f5045d70

 

 

Your linked article offers a different perspective than what you are portraying, although he has clearly established Russian interference and campaign connections via the work already produced. It is moving fast for sure. Here’s how the WaPo describes it in the article: 

‘... people familiar with the investigation said the special counsel is pushing to wrap up a significant portion of his investigative work by the end of summer.

There are various factors that could alter Mueller’s efforts and timeline, most notably whether the standoff over an interview with Trump is resolved or ends up being litigated in court, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be able to discuss an ongoing investigation.

As recently as this week, Mueller’s team has discussed interviewing more witnesses, a sign that a part of the probe remains very active, a person familiar with the matter said.

Mueller has discussed scenarios for winding down at least some of his office’s work in the coming months, the people said, emphasizing that the special counsel views his primary responsibility to be investigating — not necessarily prosecuting — any wrongdoing linked to the Russian interference efforts...

... Former federal prosecutors noted that investigators often approach a case as if it has the concentric circles of a target — starting with the larger circles and moving inward.

“It’s standard practice to start at the outside of the misconduct and work towards the center,” said David Kris, who oversaw national security matters at the Justice Department in the Obama administration. “Depending on what other evidence Mueller has, it might start to look like the walls are starting to close in on the president and his closest associates.”...

... Friday’s Russian hacking indictment revealed an astonishing level of detail, which means that intelligence and law enforcement officials were prepared to expose valuable sources and methods to make a public case, said Aloke Chakravarty, a former Justice Department attorney who prosecuted the Boston Marathon bombing.

“If they can do that in a way they can prove beyond reasonable doubt, it opens up all the connections that a conspiracy might have: the facilitators, the aiders and abettors,” he said, adding that the indictment could be used as a springboard to bring other conspiracy charges later.”

Here is another. I'm catching a whiff of "this investigation isn't going the way I thought it would" from you. Nice.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/as-the-russia-investigation-approaches-its-final-stages-what-has-it-accomplished-1278776899574

Did you read the WaPo article you linked, or watch that video?

I’m not sure why pasting links you aren’t familiar with in an effort to support a claim you’re confused about leads you to have the balls to shit-talk me. Clearly one of us knows what they’re talking about, and another is working backwards to try to prove something. 

Edited: 7/19/18 11:25 PM
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If manafort pleads guilty, no need to give Podesta immunity, right?

Why wasn't Podesta charged, and Manafort? 

Why do the DNC always get away with it?

Manafort is not going to plead guilty. It's reported that the investigation is in the final stages, and Mueller needs a big scalp to show that the investigation wasn''t a waste of tax payers money. My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.

 

Why are you guessing? Manafort was first indicted in October of last year.

Podesta isn't charged because this special counsel is assigned to investigate the Trump campaign for any coordination with Russia, and any crimes that arise as the result of the investigation per the appointment document.

In the Manafort case -- they have been arguing for nearly 9 months about the legitimacy of the special counsel, and their authority to charge a crime like those dealing with Manafort's non-campaign work in Ukraine. Mueller has won those pre-trial motions, but it would be much harder to do that if charging Podesta (who was not affiliated with the campaign whatsoever, so you then have to argue why you are charging someone who didn't commit the crime during the campaign, but who wasn't even a part of it).

But as I mentioned -- the DOJ claims that they are going to pursue FARA violations aggressively to combat foreign influence going forward, so you could see Podesta charged outside of the special counsel potentially. That likely would have already happened though.

What are you talking about? Everyone not associated with the investigators are guessing/predicting at this point, including you, the MSM, and everyone on this forum. Manafort up to this point hasn't blinked and has pleaded not guilty on everything. It been reported by numerous news outlets that the investigation is likely winding down. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-pushing-to-wrap-up-parts-of-russia-probe-faces-question-of-american-involvement/2018/07/14/4bdcef90-8786-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html?utm_term=.6572f5045d70

 

 

Your linked article offers a different perspective than what you are portraying, although he has clearly established Russian interference and campaign connections via the work already produced. It is moving fast for sure. Here’s how the WaPo describes it in the article: 

‘... people familiar with the investigation said the special counsel is pushing to wrap up a significant portion of his investigative work by the end of summer.

There are various factors that could alter Mueller’s efforts and timeline, most notably whether the standoff over an interview with Trump is resolved or ends up being litigated in court, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be able to discuss an ongoing investigation.

As recently as this week, Mueller’s team has discussed interviewing more witnesses, a sign that a part of the probe remains very active, a person familiar with the matter said.

Mueller has discussed scenarios for winding down at least some of his office’s work in the coming months, the people said, emphasizing that the special counsel views his primary responsibility to be investigating — not necessarily prosecuting — any wrongdoing linked to the Russian interference efforts...

... Former federal prosecutors noted that investigators often approach a case as if it has the concentric circles of a target — starting with the larger circles and moving inward.

“It’s standard practice to start at the outside of the misconduct and work towards the center,” said David Kris, who oversaw national security matters at the Justice Department in the Obama administration. “Depending on what other evidence Mueller has, it might start to look like the walls are starting to close in on the president and his closest associates.”...

... Friday’s Russian hacking indictment revealed an astonishing level of detail, which means that intelligence and law enforcement officials were prepared to expose valuable sources and methods to make a public case, said Aloke Chakravarty, a former Justice Department attorney who prosecuted the Boston Marathon bombing.

“If they can do that in a way they can prove beyond reasonable doubt, it opens up all the connections that a conspiracy might have: the facilitators, the aiders and abettors,” he said, adding that the indictment could be used as a springboard to bring other conspiracy charges later.”

Here is another. I'm catching a whiff of "this investigation isn't going the way I thought it would" from you. Nice.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/as-the-russia-investigation-approaches-its-final-stages-what-has-it-accomplished-1278776899574

Did you read the WaPo article you linked, or watch that video?

I’m not sure why pasting links you aren’t familiar with in an effort to support a claim you’re confused about leads you to have the balls to shit-talk me. Clearly one of us knows what they’re talking about, and another is working backwards to try to prove something. 

In my origional post I said its been reported, and didn't give specifc sources, but clearly the 2nd one I posted, which of course you're ignoring, clearly supports my post. 

Edited: 7/19/18 11:41 PM
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If manafort pleads guilty, no need to give Podesta immunity, right?

Why wasn't Podesta charged, and Manafort? 

Why do the DNC always get away with it?

Manafort is not going to plead guilty. It's reported that the investigation is in the final stages, and Mueller needs a big scalp to show that the investigation wasn''t a waste of tax payers money. My guess, they throw the book at Manafort knowing Trump will pardon him.

 

Why are you guessing? Manafort was first indicted in October of last year.

Podesta isn't charged because this special counsel is assigned to investigate the Trump campaign for any coordination with Russia, and any crimes that arise as the result of the investigation per the appointment document.

In the Manafort case -- they have been arguing for nearly 9 months about the legitimacy of the special counsel, and their authority to charge a crime like those dealing with Manafort's non-campaign work in Ukraine. Mueller has won those pre-trial motions, but it would be much harder to do that if charging Podesta (who was not affiliated with the campaign whatsoever, so you then have to argue why you are charging someone who didn't commit the crime during the campaign, but who wasn't even a part of it).

But as I mentioned -- the DOJ claims that they are going to pursue FARA violations aggressively to combat foreign influence going forward, so you could see Podesta charged outside of the special counsel potentially. That likely would have already happened though.

What are you talking about? Everyone not associated with the investigators are guessing/predicting at this point, including you, the MSM, and everyone on this forum. Manafort up to this point hasn't blinked and has pleaded not guilty on everything. It been reported by numerous news outlets that the investigation is likely winding down. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-pushing-to-wrap-up-parts-of-russia-probe-faces-question-of-american-involvement/2018/07/14/4bdcef90-8786-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html?utm_term=.6572f5045d70

 

 

Your linked article offers a different perspective than what you are portraying, although he has clearly established Russian interference and campaign connections via the work already produced. It is moving fast for sure. Here’s how the WaPo describes it in the article: 

‘... people familiar with the investigation said the special counsel is pushing to wrap up a significant portion of his investigative work by the end of summer.

There are various factors that could alter Mueller’s efforts and timeline, most notably whether the standoff over an interview with Trump is resolved or ends up being litigated in court, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be able to discuss an ongoing investigation.

As recently as this week, Mueller’s team has discussed interviewing more witnesses, a sign that a part of the probe remains very active, a person familiar with the matter said.

Mueller has discussed scenarios for winding down at least some of his office’s work in the coming months, the people said, emphasizing that the special counsel views his primary responsibility to be investigating — not necessarily prosecuting — any wrongdoing linked to the Russian interference efforts...

... Former federal prosecutors noted that investigators often approach a case as if it has the concentric circles of a target — starting with the larger circles and moving inward.

“It’s standard practice to start at the outside of the misconduct and work towards the center,” said David Kris, who oversaw national security matters at the Justice Department in the Obama administration. “Depending on what other evidence Mueller has, it might start to look like the walls are starting to close in on the president and his closest associates.”...

... Friday’s Russian hacking indictment revealed an astonishing level of detail, which means that intelligence and law enforcement officials were prepared to expose valuable sources and methods to make a public case, said Aloke Chakravarty, a former Justice Department attorney who prosecuted the Boston Marathon bombing.

“If they can do that in a way they can prove beyond reasonable doubt, it opens up all the connections that a conspiracy might have: the facilitators, the aiders and abettors,” he said, adding that the indictment could be used as a springboard to bring other conspiracy charges later.”

Here is another. I'm catching a whiff of "this investigation isn't going the way I thought it would" from you. Nice.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/as-the-russia-investigation-approaches-its-final-stages-what-has-it-accomplished-1278776899574

Did you read the WaPo article you linked, or watch that video?

I’m not sure why pasting links you aren’t familiar with in an effort to support a claim you’re confused about leads you to have the balls to shit-talk me. Clearly one of us knows what they’re talking about, and another is working backwards to try to prove something. 

In my origional post I said its been reported, and didn't give specifc sources, but clearly the 2nd one I posted, which of course you're ignoring, clearly supports my post. 

It’s a 90 second nightly news clip, and a shitty one. Also likely derived from that WaPo report. 

I wasn’t arguing against you though. I was pointing out that the article you linked wasn’t what you described. 

This investigation could very well end tomorrow. They’ve made allegations against Russia’s military intelligence agency. Attempted to answer the question re: the hacks and spearfishing, the online propaganda campaign, made some charges against campaign members which established contact with Russians, but no formal allegation of a crime wittingly committed related to collusion.

There are some things we can definitely expect though. The obstruction of justice probe was reportedly supposed to be done with after a Trump interview, but they’re fighting it. Mueller can subpoena like we saw Ken Starr do with Clinton — but Trump will likely fight that in court, and it might not be worth the effort, and the chances of an Emmet Flood winning that battle are solid. Latest reports were that he’ll likely move on without the interview. 

We also have cooperation that hasn’t resulted in anything. What are they delaying Flynn’s sentencing for? What will they do with the cooperation of Papadopoulos, Nader, and Gates? They were in court today fighting a Roger Stone witness refusing to give grand jury testimony. What will that result in? & so on...

7/19/18 11:41 PM
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Mueller's gonna drain the swamp! 

7/19/18 11:46 PM
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No reason to doubt Tucker because this makes sense, but surprised this hasn’t been indepensently verified elsewhere yet. 

Someone call Tony. 

7/20/18 1:49 AM
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I'm pooping at an airport. 

Is it in San Francisco ?

At an airport.  Not on an airport.

7/20/18 2:18 AM
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Mueller apparently enjoys pizza and hot dogs as well!

7/20/18 8:41 AM
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cruedi - are you surprised?

Maybe a little, since the corruption is so balntant.


You shouldnt be. The vast majority of people are idiots who cannot process information even if it was spoon fed to them.
7/20/18 9:04 AM
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If serious charges are brought against Hillary without immunity for her, I’ll admit I was wrong about this being a witch hunt. 

7/20/18 12:00 PM
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This clearly is evidence of the swamp.
7/20/18 12:10 PM
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FBI standard procedure seems to be give everybody with direct ties to the DNC and Clinton immunity and kick everyone's door down with ties to Trump.
7/20/18 12:19 PM
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Alll part of the grand scheme.   3D chess going on here.

Edited: 7/20/18 12:31 PM
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Again... 

Are you guys serious? I’ve outlined how Mueller had to fight pre-trial motions to dismiss the charges against Manafort, the *campaign manager*, for potentially going outside the scope of the special counsel appointment which is to investigate coordination between Trump campaign/Russia. 

How can he justify, in court, a charge against Podesta and Weber? He almost certainly can’t. 

You should be saying “the DOJ should take that up and charge Podesta and Weber outside of the special counsel’s office”. 

& they just might. 

7/20/18 1:03 PM
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conservative tears!

7/20/18 2:02 PM
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Bad Monkey -

Would that maybe mean he’s rolling on Hilldog?

Why else would this be happening outside of corruption?  

That is exactly what i thought when i read that.  They may be going after the clinton foundation.

7/20/18 2:21 PM
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Bad Monkey -

Would that maybe mean he’s rolling on Hilldog?

Why else would this be happening outside of corruption?  

That is exactly what i thought when i read that.  They may be going after the clinton foundation.

His lobbying firm was referenced in the Manafort indictment for work done in Ukraine (the core of the charges against Manafort). & the immunity concerns testimony in Manafort’s EVDA trial. 

God damn... legal-convos on the OG need some work.

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tetris -
Bad Monkey -

Would that maybe mean he’s rolling on Hilldog?

Why else would this be happening outside of corruption?  

That is exactly what i thought when i read that.  They may be going after the clinton foundation.

His lobbying firm was referenced in the Manafort indictment for work done in Ukraine (the core of the charges against Manafort). & the immunity concerns testimony in Manafort’s EVDA trial. 

God damn... legal-convos on the OG need some work.


I knew this was going to go crazy when the name Podesta appeared. Pizzagate 2.0 incoming, imo.

For the record — I would love to see Podesta charged for a FARA violation if warranted. & if he had the habit of laundering money even better. 

Some of the evidence in the Manafort case shows off his rug collection. Imagine FARA opening the door to Tony’s infamous art collection. 

7/20/18 8:16 PM
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Again... 

Are you guys serious? I’ve outlined how Mueller had to fight pre-trial motions to dismiss the charges against Manafort, the *campaign manager*, for potentially going outside the scope of the special counsel appointment which is to investigate coordination between Trump campaign/Russia. 

How can he justify, in court, a charge against Podesta and Weber? He almost certainly can’t. 

You should be saying “the DOJ should take that up and charge Podesta and Weber outside of the special counsel’s office”. 

& they just might. 


You're truly a piece of shit shill.