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is this the same russian meddling that 99% of the OG trumptards denied for 2+ years, despite a mountain of evidence supporting it?
Russian Collusion and Russian meddling, 2 different things.
The collusion has definitely been dismantled. Did Trump and co interact with Russians? Yep, but not to the level that was being portrayed by the media. The Dossier, Manafort, all that is crap.
As for interference, I personally think the proven actions of the Clintons and the DNC did way more damage, and they aren't even a foreign entity!
Foreign money and influence will always be present in our elections. Soviet, Israeli, the Saudis, Chinese, lots of foreign interests at stake. The whole Russia focus had a very specific function, it wasn't achieved, it backfired, and now has become a grotesque monster consuming our media and dividing people.
well, this is a completely useless post that does not answer my question.
99% may be an exaggeration, but only by individual percentage points. the vast, vast majority of the OG trump crew denied flat out that the russian government was behind the wikileaks releases, that they coordinated and carried out an organized, top down social media disinformation campaign, and that they did so in direct support of the trump campaign. all of which was spelled out in excruciating detail in the mueller report (you know, the one the OP didn't read).
i just want to be clear that the meddling that the OG is disingenuously talking about is the same meddling he has been denying all along.
William Binney, top NSA veteran has widely disputed the Russians were behind the DNC hack. His credentials dwarf yours, so I tend to go with his assessment. Others in that circle are mixed on that one, so I can't 100% buy that one.
Binney says the download speed looks more like it was put on a flash drive than it was downloaded. Also, to this day the CIA has never had access to that server, protocol was broken, a private company was allowed access to it first. Not at all the way a definitive answer is reached.
so, the OP is wrong?
If OP is referring to the DNC hack then I personally disagree, I don't believe it was a hack. Again, just my opinion. We will never truly know since the server was never made accessible.
If the OP is referring to Russian troll farms etc then yes, those did exist. Again, I personally don't think they were as effective as people like Comey like to claim. Something not mentioned about the Mueller reports findings on the meddling Russians is his allegations are just that, allegations. Some are actually in court trying to clear their names and are being Stone walled. I believe one case is the Concord Group.