PoliticalGround Trump officially says Russian hacking is a hoax

7/24/18 7:54 AM
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dabigchet -
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I already explained to you why collusion doesn’t make sense. Why are you repeating that absurd suggestion without addressing the context of his actual words?

The only thing that makes sense is the main Russian pre-election narrative. That’s what obama knew about. That is what is a hoax. It is the only thing that makes sense in context.

THEN, as ADDITIONAL supporting evidence we can heap on the many, many prior statements where he has said the same thing, often more specifically. As recently as last week.

You are arguing that black is white. Why would you do that?

 


Sanders clarified he was talking about collusion.... your attempt at logic means nothing. Read between the lines.

You know that feeling you're having that maybe Trump was set the fuck up.... yeah that's what happened.

Her clarification also makes zero sense and the is/isn’t bullshit was not the totality of his comments.

it isr eally, really, really creepy that you guys are so compelled to defend such obvious nonsense. 

 

It’s really, really, creepy that you can’t except anything but the narrative you’re told to push.

 

Sad. : ‘ (

What narrative? I am discussing the presidents words.

you are deflecting from the presidents words without offering any other explanation.

its creepy as fuck.

 

You pushed the narrative in the OP without good evidence. I gave an alternative. You lamented and were emotional. Now that you were proven wrong, you’re frustrated and trying to take out your frustrations on me with more emotional posts.

Just be an adult; admit to yourself at least that you were wrong, and move on.

7/24/18 7:59 AM
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dabigchet -
The Jentleman -
dabigchet -
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dabigchet - 

I already explained to you why collusion doesn’t make sense. Why are you repeating that absurd suggestion without addressing the context of his actual words?

The only thing that makes sense is the main Russian pre-election narrative. That’s what obama knew about. That is what is a hoax. It is the only thing that makes sense in context.

THEN, as ADDITIONAL supporting evidence we can heap on the many, many prior statements where he has said the same thing, often more specifically. As recently as last week.

You are arguing that black is white. Why would you do that?

 


Sanders clarified he was talking about collusion.... your attempt at logic means nothing. Read between the lines.

You know that feeling you're having that maybe Trump was set the fuck up.... yeah that's what happened.

Her clarification also makes zero sense and the is/isn’t bullshit was not the totality of his comments.

it isr eally, really, really creepy that you guys are so compelled to defend such obvious nonsense. 

 

It’s really, really, creepy that you can’t except anything but the narrative you’re told to push.

 

Sad. : ‘ (

What narrative? I am discussing the presidents words.

you are deflecting from the presidents words without offering any other explanation.

its creepy as fuck.

 

You pushed the narrative in the OP without good evidence. I gave an alternative. You lamented and were emotional. Now that you were proven wrong, you’re frustrated and trying to take out your frustrations on me with more emotional posts.

Just be an adult; admit to yourself at least that you were wrong, and move on.


So really you're just in the camp that believes we shouldn't take the President at his word, but rather what his PR/communications staff put together as a narrative after the fact?

K.

:)
7/24/18 8:10 AM
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dabigchet -
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dabigchet -
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dabigchet - 

I already explained to you why collusion doesn’t make sense. Why are you repeating that absurd suggestion without addressing the context of his actual words?

The only thing that makes sense is the main Russian pre-election narrative. That’s what obama knew about. That is what is a hoax. It is the only thing that makes sense in context.

THEN, as ADDITIONAL supporting evidence we can heap on the many, many prior statements where he has said the same thing, often more specifically. As recently as last week.

You are arguing that black is white. Why would you do that?

 


Sanders clarified he was talking about collusion.... your attempt at logic means nothing. Read between the lines.

You know that feeling you're having that maybe Trump was set the fuck up.... yeah that's what happened.

Her clarification also makes zero sense and the is/isn’t bullshit was not the totality of his comments.

it isr eally, really, really creepy that you guys are so compelled to defend such obvious nonsense. 

 

It’s really, really, creepy that you can’t except anything but the narrative you’re told to push.

 

Sad. : ‘ (

What narrative? I am discussing the presidents words.

you are deflecting from the presidents words without offering any other explanation.

its creepy as fuck.

 

You pushed the narrative in the OP without good evidence. I gave an alternative. You lamented and were emotional. Now that you were proven wrong, you’re frustrated and trying to take out your frustrations on me with more emotional posts.

Just be an adult; admit to yourself at least that you were wrong, and move on.

Again, sir, I am speaking to the presidents words. 

You are not.

7/24/18 8:12 AM
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dabigchet -
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dabigchet -
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dabigchet - 

I already explained to you why collusion doesn’t make sense. Why are you repeating that absurd suggestion without addressing the context of his actual words?

The only thing that makes sense is the main Russian pre-election narrative. That’s what obama knew about. That is what is a hoax. It is the only thing that makes sense in context.

THEN, as ADDITIONAL supporting evidence we can heap on the many, many prior statements where he has said the same thing, often more specifically. As recently as last week.

You are arguing that black is white. Why would you do that?

 


Sanders clarified he was talking about collusion.... your attempt at logic means nothing. Read between the lines.

You know that feeling you're having that maybe Trump was set the fuck up.... yeah that's what happened.

Her clarification also makes zero sense and the is/isn’t bullshit was not the totality of his comments.

it isr eally, really, really creepy that you guys are so compelled to defend such obvious nonsense. 

 

It’s really, really, creepy that you can’t except anything but the narrative you’re told to push.

 

Sad. : ‘ (

What narrative? I am discussing the presidents words.

you are deflecting from the presidents words without offering any other explanation.

its creepy as fuck.

 

You pushed the narrative in the OP without good evidence. I gave an alternative. You lamented and were emotional. Now that you were proven wrong, you’re frustrated and trying to take out your frustrations on me with more emotional posts.

Just be an adult; admit to yourself at least that you were wrong, and move on.


So really you're just in the camp that believes we shouldn't take the President at his word, but rather what his PR/communications staff put together as a narrative after the fact?

K.

:)

Exactly this. His core point is that the president’s word should not be believed.

7/24/18 8:17 AM
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dabigchet -
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dabigchet -
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dabigchet - 

I already explained to you why collusion doesn’t make sense. Why are you repeating that absurd suggestion without addressing the context of his actual words?

The only thing that makes sense is the main Russian pre-election narrative. That’s what obama knew about. That is what is a hoax. It is the only thing that makes sense in context.

THEN, as ADDITIONAL supporting evidence we can heap on the many, many prior statements where he has said the same thing, often more specifically. As recently as last week.

You are arguing that black is white. Why would you do that?

 


Sanders clarified he was talking about collusion.... your attempt at logic means nothing. Read between the lines.

You know that feeling you're having that maybe Trump was set the fuck up.... yeah that's what happened.

Her clarification also makes zero sense and the is/isn’t bullshit was not the totality of his comments.

it isr eally, really, really creepy that you guys are so compelled to defend such obvious nonsense. 

 

It’s really, really, creepy that you can’t except anything but the narrative you’re told to push.

 

Sad. : ‘ (

What narrative? I am discussing the presidents words.

you are deflecting from the presidents words without offering any other explanation.

its creepy as fuck.

 

You pushed the narrative in the OP without good evidence. I gave an alternative. You lamented and were emotional. Now that you were proven wrong, you’re frustrated and trying to take out your frustrations on me with more emotional posts.

Just be an adult; admit to yourself at least that you were wrong, and move on.


So really you're just in the camp that believes we shouldn't take the President at his word, but rather what his PR/communications staff put together as a narrative after the fact?

K.

:)

Where does he mention the DNC hacking in that tweet? 

I am using his exact words, and there’s not near enough there to make the assumptions you guys have. So really you’re in the camp of creating fake narratives and can’t except being wrong.

That’s actual delusion.

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His actual words. Note there is no word 'collusion'

You're spinning the PR/communications team narrative and not the actual words. If he was talking about collusion why would he ask why Obama never told his team? If you're colluding with a foreign entity, why would an active administration tell the campaign that is allegedly doing so? That doesn't make any logical sense.


'Hey guys, we just wanted to know that you're colluding with Russia.'


Ummmmmmm what?

You are THAT guy.
7/24/18 8:26 AM
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dabigchet -
The Jentleman -
dabigchet -
The Jentleman -
dabigchet -
Green Vermonster -
dabigchet - 

I already explained to you why collusion doesn’t make sense. Why are you repeating that absurd suggestion without addressing the context of his actual words?

The only thing that makes sense is the main Russian pre-election narrative. That’s what obama knew about. That is what is a hoax. It is the only thing that makes sense in context.

THEN, as ADDITIONAL supporting evidence we can heap on the many, many prior statements where he has said the same thing, often more specifically. As recently as last week.

You are arguing that black is white. Why would you do that?

 


Sanders clarified he was talking about collusion.... your attempt at logic means nothing. Read between the lines.

You know that feeling you're having that maybe Trump was set the fuck up.... yeah that's what happened.

Her clarification also makes zero sense and the is/isn’t bullshit was not the totality of his comments.

it isr eally, really, really creepy that you guys are so compelled to defend such obvious nonsense. 

 

It’s really, really, creepy that you can’t except anything but the narrative you’re told to push.

 

Sad. : ‘ (

What narrative? I am discussing the presidents words.

you are deflecting from the presidents words without offering any other explanation.

its creepy as fuck.

 

You pushed the narrative in the OP without good evidence. I gave an alternative. You lamented and were emotional. Now that you were proven wrong, you’re frustrated and trying to take out your frustrations on me with more emotional posts.

Just be an adult; admit to yourself at least that you were wrong, and move on.

Again, sir, I am speaking to the presidents words. 

You are not.

No you’re not. You’re clearly inferring something that’s not there. And now you can’t admit to being wrong.

You have a problem, bud. 

7/24/18 8:31 AM
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His actual words. Note there is no word 'collusion'

You're spinning the PR/communications team narrative and not the actual words. If he was talking about collusion why would he ask why Obama never told his team? If you're colluding with a foreign entity, why would an active administration tell the campaign that is allegedly doing so? That doesn't make any logical sense.


'Hey guys, we just wanted to know that you're colluding with Russia.'


Ummmmmmm what?

You are THAT guy.

I’ve already suggested that he could have been talking about Russian meddling in general, and his comments about it being a hoax is more directed towards what’s going on now.

I don’t know how to make you think beyond a singular mindset, but people do it all the time. It’s not difficult, but it wouldn’t fit into your fabricated narrative, so....

You need to get out of your bubble. 

7/24/18 8:34 AM
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His actual words. Note there is no word 'collusion'

You're spinning the PR/communications team narrative and not the actual words. If he was talking about collusion why would he ask why Obama never told his team? If you're colluding with a foreign entity, why would an active administration tell the campaign that is allegedly doing so? That doesn't make any logical sense.


'Hey guys, we just wanted to know that you're colluding with Russia.'


Ummmmmmm what?

You are THAT guy.

I’ve already suggested that he could have been talking about Russian meddling in general, and his comments about it being a hoax is more directed towards what’s going on now.

I don’t know how to make you think beyond a singular mindset, but people do it all the time. It’s not difficult, but it wouldn’t fit into your fabricated narrative, so....

You need to get out of your bubble. 


You're something else man.

The words are right there.

Talks Russia... says its all a big hoax right after...

You're spinning the PR/communications narrative. You can admit that you think we should believe the communication team's stance over Trump's actual words. Thats fine.

You're that guy.

Good luck with that. I don't give a shit either way. Its clear at this point our President is a compulsive liar. I don't take anything he says seriously anymore.
7/24/18 8:41 AM
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What other general election meddling details did obama have specificity on to share with the trump campaign, and why would such an update exclude the very biggest, most egregious example (the DNC hack)?

7/24/18 8:43 AM
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RdotC -
The Jentleman - 
RdotC -



His actual words. Note there is no word 'collusion'

You're spinning the PR/communications team narrative and not the actual words. If he was talking about collusion why would he ask why Obama never told his team? If you're colluding with a foreign entity, why would an active administration tell the campaign that is allegedly doing so? That doesn't make any logical sense.


'Hey guys, we just wanted to know that you're colluding with Russia.'


Ummmmmmm what?

You are THAT guy.

I’ve already suggested that he could have been talking about Russian meddling in general, and his comments about it being a hoax is more directed towards what’s going on now.

I don’t know how to make you think beyond a singular mindset, but people do it all the time. It’s not difficult, but it wouldn’t fit into your fabricated narrative, so....

You need to get out of your bubble. 


You're something else man.

The words are right there.

Talks Russia... says its all a big hoax right after...

You're spinning the PR/communications narrative. You can admit that you think we should believe the communication team's stance over Trump's actual words. Thats fine.

You're that guy.

Good luck with that. I don't give a shit either way. Its clear at this point our President is a compulsive liar. I don't take anything he says seriously anymore.

You have incomplete information, so you make up something to fit your agenda. So emotionally driven that you can’t accept anything beyond your created delusions.

You’re that guy.

You guys have lied consistently in this thread. You have spent time pushing a narrative you don’t know to be true; I think you care a lot, but can’t bring yourself to keep up the charade. 

I haven’t taken you guys seriously yet. You’ve given no reason for me to.

7/24/18 9:21 AM
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this is an argument to never discuss the words that anyone says. we always have incomplete information.

you have offered zero explanation for anything except for the obvious conclusion.
7/24/18 9:52 AM
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dabigchet - this is an argument to never discuss the words that anyone says. we always have incomplete information.

you have offered zero explanation for anything except for the obvious conclusion.

I’ve offered plenty of explanation, but none fit your predetermined wants. You dearly need it to mean what you say it does. Any explanation to the contrary as shown to make you angry, hostile, and further delusional to the point of all out lying about me.

Sorry to tell you, but you were wrong. It’s simple; grow up and get over it.

7/24/18 9:58 AM
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The Jentleman - 
dabigchet - this is an argument to never discuss the words that anyone says. we always have incomplete information.

you have offered zero explanation for anything except for the obvious conclusion.

I’ve offered plenty of explanation, but none fit your predetermined wants. You dearly need it to mean what you say it does. Any explanation to the contrary as shown to make you angry, hostile, and further delusional to the point of all out lying about me.

Sorry to tell you, but you were wrong. It’s simple; grow up and get over it.


rather, if you go back, you offered the nonsensical explanation of "collusion" that made zero sense in context. it has been refuted 3 separate times. you didn't defend it in any of those 3 refutations because it is a shit explanation.
7/24/18 10:08 AM
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dabigchet -
The Jentleman - 
dabigchet - this is an argument to never discuss the words that anyone says. we always have incomplete information.

you have offered zero explanation for anything except for the obvious conclusion.

I’ve offered plenty of explanation, but none fit your predetermined wants. You dearly need it to mean what you say it does. Any explanation to the contrary as shown to make you angry, hostile, and further delusional to the point of all out lying about me.

Sorry to tell you, but you were wrong. It’s simple; grow up and get over it.


rather, if you go back, you offered the nonsensical explanation of "collusion" that made zero sense in context. it has been refuted 3 separate times. you didn't defend it in any of those 3 refutations because it is a shit explanation.

Another lie. You have a singular mindset driven by emotion. You should move beyond that and use the intellect you’re capable of. 

7/24/18 10:24 AM
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perhaps you would like to quote your explanation of how collusion could have made sense in the full context of his tweet.

i'll wait.
7/24/18 10:32 AM
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2017
Jan. 6, 2017 -- Trump releases a statement about the intelligence briefing that says, in part: "While Russia, China, other countries, outside groups and people are consistently trying to break through the cyber infrastructure of our governmental institutions, businesses and organizations including the Democrat National Committee, there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election including the fact that there was no tampering whatsoever with voting machines."

Jan. 11, 2017 -- At a news conference a week before his inauguration, Trump states, "As far as hacking, I think it was Russia. But I think we also get hacked by other countries and other people. And I -- I can say that you know when -- when we lost 22 million names and everything else that was hacked recently, they didn't make a big deal out of that. That was something that was extraordinary. That was probably China. We had -- we had much hacking going on."

All of that was included in the Fox video montage. Trump goes on to criticize the DNC for not adequately defending itself against hacks. He suggests he did not believe the intent of the Russian effort was to help his campaign. "I think, frankly, had they broken into the Republican National Committee, I think they would've released it just like they did about Hillary and all of the horrible things that her people, like Mr. Podesta, said about her," Trump says, referring to Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta.

He also says this: "But remember this: We talk about the hacking and hacking's bad and it shouldn't be done. But look at the things that were hacked, look at what was learned from that hacking."

Asked by a reporter if he accepted the intelligence report conclusion that Putin ordered the campaign because he wanted to help Trump, the president replies, "Well, if -- if Putin likes Donald Trump, I consider that an asset, not a liability, because we have a horrible relationship with Russia."

April 29, 2017 -- Trump tells CBS News' John Dickerson, "[K]nowing something about hacking, if you don't catch a hacker, okay, in the act, it's very hard to say who did the hacking. With that being said, I'll go along with Russia. Could've been China, could've been a lot of different groups."

July 6, 2017 -- At a joint press conference with Polish President Andrzej Duda in Warsaw, Trump states at various points, "Well, I think it was Russia, and I think it could have been other people in other countries. It could have been a lot of people interfered ... I think it was Russia, but I think it was probably other people and/or countries ... It was Russia, and I think it was others also." Those comments were included in the Fox News montage Trump highlighted.

"I've said it very simply. I think it could very well have been Russia," Trump says. "I think it could well have been other countries. And I won't be specific. But I think a lot of people interfere. I think it's been happening for a long time. It's been happening for many, many years."

In the press conference, a reporter says, "You again state you think it was Russia. Your intelligence agencies have been far more definitive. They say it was Russia. Why won't you agree and say it was?"

Trump responds, in part, "I agree, I think it was Russia, but I think it was probably other people and/or countries, and I see nothing wrong with that statement. Nobody really knows. Nobody really knows for sure. I remember when I was sitting back listening about Iraq. Weapons of mass destruction. How everybody was 100 percent sure that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Guess what -- that led to one big mess. They were wrong and it led to a mess."

July 12, 2017 -- In an interview with reporters aboard Air Force One, Trump is asked about broaching the issue with Putin during the G20 summit. "And I said to him, 'Were you involved with the meddling in the election?' He said, 'Absolutely not. I was not involved.' He was very strong on it," Trump says. "I then said to him again, in a totally different way, 'Were you involved with the meddling?' He said, I was not -- absolutely not. ... Somebody said later to me, which was interesting. Said, let me tell you, if they were involved, you wouldn't have found out about it. Okay, which is a very interesting point."

Nov. 11, 2017 -- In a press gaggle aboard Air Force One, Trump is asked if he brought up the issue with Putin. Trump responds, "He just -- every time he sees me, he says, 'I didn't do that.' And I believe -- I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it. But he says, 'I didn't do that.' I think he's very insulted by it, if you want to know the truth. Don't forget, all he said is he never did that, he didn't do that. I think he's very insulted by it, which is not a good thing for our country."

Asked whether he believed Putin, Trump says, "I think that he is very, very strong in the fact that he didn't do it. And then you look, and you look at what's going on with Podesta, and you look at what's going on with the server from the DNC and why didn't the FBI take it, why did they leave it; why did a third party look at the server and not the FBI -- if you look at all of this stuff, and you say, what's going on here? And then you hear it's 17 agencies. Well, it's three. And one is Brennan and one is whatever. I mean, give me a break. They're political hacks. So you look at it -- I mean, you have Brennan, you have Clapper, and you have Comey. Comey is proven now to be a liar and he's proven to be a leaker. So you look at that, and you have President Putin very strongly, vehemently says he had nothing to do with that. Now, you're not going to get into an argument. You're going to start talking about Syria and the Ukraine."

In a press conference in Vietnam that same day, Trump is asked about his comment about Putin's denials and if he believes Putin and/or Russia interfered in the election. Trump says, "What I said there, I'm surprised that there's any conflict on this. What I said there is that I believe he believes that, and that's very important for somebody to believe. I believe that he feels that he and Russia did not meddle in the election. As to whether I believe it or not, I'm with our agencies, especially as currently constituted with their leadership. I believe in our intel agencies, our intelligence agencies."

2018
March 6, 2018 -- In a press conference Trump states, "Well, the Russians had no impact on our votes whatsoever. But, certainly, there was meddling and probably there was meddling from other countries and maybe other individuals."

That was another comment included in the Fox montage. As we wrote when Trump said something similar on July 6, 2017 -- that the computer hacking "could have been other people and other countries" -- there is no evidence for that, and U.S. intelligence has named only Russia as the culprit.

May 27, 2018 -- Trump sends out a tweet referring to "the so-called Russian Meddling."

June 28, 2018 -- Trump tweets, "Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election! Where is the DNC Server, and why didn't Shady James Comey and the now disgraced FBI agents take and closely examine it? Why isn't Hillary/Russia being looked at? So many questions, so much corruption!"

July 16, 2018 --During a joint press conference with Putin in Helsinki, Trump says Putin denied involvement in an influence campaign. A reporter pointedly asks Trump whether he believes U.S. intelligence agencies or Putin.

Trump begins his response by questioning why the DNC failed to turn over its servers to FBI investigators (though the former FBI director testified last year that it did not hurt the investigation, which on July 13 resulted in an indictment against 12 Russian military intelligence agents).
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"My people came to me, [Director of National Intelligence] Dan Coates came to me and some others, they said they think it's Russia," Trump says. "I have President Putin; he just said it's not Russia. I will say this: I don't see any reason why it would be. But I really do want to see the server." Trump adds, "I have confidence in both parties."

Trump also says, "I have great confidence in my intelligence people but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today."

July 17, 2018 -- The day after his press conference with Putin, in a meeting with members of Congress, Trump says he meant to say, "I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be Russia." Trump adds that he has "full faith and support for America's great intelligence agencies" and that, "I have felt very strongly that, while Russia's actions had no impact at all on the outcome of the election, let me be totally clear in saying that -- and I've said this many times -- I accept our intelligence community's conclusion that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place. Could be other people also; there's a lot of people out there."

July 22, 2018 -- Just a few days after thanking Fox News for showing clips he says demonstrate he has recognized Russian meddling many times, Trump tweets that the investigation is "all a big hoax."

So President Obama knew about Russia before the Election. Why didn't he do something about it? Why didn't he tell our campaign? Because it is all a big hoax, that's why, and he thought Crooked Hillary was going to win!!!

-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 22, 2018

In a press conference on July 23, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Trump's "hoax" comment was "referencing the collusion component," not the Russia investigation in general. Said Sanders: "As the President has said many times, and stated over and over again -- as have I, as have a number of other administration officials -- we maintain that Russia interfered in the elections. The President, however, very much so, and has repeatedly -- as, again, have the rest of us -- that his campaign colluding in that process is a total hoax."


source: https://www.factcheck.org/2018/07/trumps-mixed-messages-on-russian-meddling/
7/24/18 11:18 AM
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dabigchet - perhaps you would like to quote your explanation of how collusion could have made sense in the full context of his tweet.

i'll wait.

“I’ve already suggested that he could have been talking about Russian meddling in general, and his comments about it being a hoax is more directed towards what’s going on now.”

In context of the clarification that he is referring to the collusion aspect with his final statement.

 

THis is Twitter. Many things get mashed together.

Here’s a tweet from Trump. Without separating what’s being said, you can claim that he’s calling the negotiations a “witch hunt”. He also clearly calls the collusion aspect a hoax. He has a plural mindset most of the time. 

“There was no Collusion (it is a Hoax) and there is no Obstruction of Justice (that is a setup & trap). What there is is Negotiations going on with North Korea over Nuclear War, Negotiations going on with China over Trade Deficits, Negotiations on NAFTA, and much more. Witch Hunt!”

7/24/18 11:45 AM
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so, your idea that he was talking about collusion (in the most recent tweet, not the one that you just included as another distraction) is not one that you are going to defend?

can we get that out of the way?

then we can move on to your nonsense idea of "general meddling" which is completely retarded and one that you have dick tucked on more than once already.
7/24/18 12:13 PM
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dabigchet - so, your idea that he was talking about collusion (in the most recent tweet, not the one that you just included as another distraction) is not one that you are going to defend?

can we get that out of the way?

then we can move on to your nonsense idea of "general meddling" which is completely retarded and one that you have dick tucked on more than once already.

You’re still thinking singularly. Do you even comprehend that point? Are you so wrapped up in your delusions that you can’t even understand simple cognitive logic?

We already have clarification what he meant. You were proven wrong. What you should be doing is trying to comprehend why you were wrong, which I have already explained to you. Yet you’re, what my father would say, “stuck on stupid”.

Grow up.

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Dept. of Homeland Security officials now state that Russian hackers have infiltrated our utility grid headquarters. MAGA?

Furthermore, the leaders of the GOP have already stated unequivocally that the Russians hacked our 2016 election in addition to hacking both political parties. One had information that released via Wikileaks and other groups. The other's data, well, we have a president given Putin a handjob any chance he gets while GOP senators visit Russia on the 4th of July, while all claiming different reasons for being there.
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10/15/13
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Thuricide - Dept. of Homeland Security officials now state that Russian hackers have infiltrated our utility grid headquarters. MAGA?

Furthermore, the leaders of the GOP have already stated unequivocally that the Russians hacked our 2016 election in addition to hacking both political parties. One had information that released via Wikileaks and other groups. The other's data, well, we have a president given Putin a handjob any chance he gets while GOP senators visit Russia on the 4th of July, while all claiming different reasons for being there.

Yeah, please post your source for this

7/24/18 12:29 PM
9/10/07
Posts: 19382
The Jentleman - 
dabigchet - so, your idea that he was talking about collusion (in the most recent tweet, not the one that you just included as another distraction) is not one that you are going to defend?

can we get that out of the way?

then we can move on to your nonsense idea of "general meddling" which is completely retarded and one that you have dick tucked on more than once already.

You’re still thinking singularly. Do you even comprehend that point? Are you so wrapped up in your delusions that you can’t even understand simple cognitive logic?

We already have clarification what he meant. You were proven wrong. What you should be doing is trying to comprehend why you were wrong, which I have already explained to you. Yet you’re, what my father would say, “stuck on stupid”.

Grow up.


no, we don't. we have a narrative offered that doesn't make sense AS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO YOU MULTIPLE TIMES.

collusion makes no sense. please scroll up to the multiple times that has been explained to you. your invented, childish concept of "general meddling" that would magically exclude hacking the DNC makes no sense. scroll up to where that has been explained to you.

feel free to defend those points or offer a new, undoubtely equally shitty theory.
7/24/18 12:38 PM
10/6/17
Posts: 1881
dabigchet -
The Jentleman - 
dabigchet - so, your idea that he was talking about collusion (in the most recent tweet, not the one that you just included as another distraction) is not one that you are going to defend?

can we get that out of the way?

then we can move on to your nonsense idea of "general meddling" which is completely retarded and one that you have dick tucked on more than once already.

You’re still thinking singularly. Do you even comprehend that point? Are you so wrapped up in your delusions that you can’t even understand simple cognitive logic?

We already have clarification what he meant. You were proven wrong. What you should be doing is trying to comprehend why you were wrong, which I have already explained to you. Yet you’re, what my father would say, “stuck on stupid”.

Grow up.


no, we don't. we have a narrative offered that doesn't make sense AS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO YOU MULTIPLE TIMES.

collusion makes no sense. please scroll up to the multiple times that has been explained to you. your invented, childish concept of "general meddling" that would magically exclude hacking the DNC makes no sense. scroll up to where that has been explained to you.

feel free to defend those points or offer a new, undoubtely equally shitty theory.

Yes, it’s been explained. And if I didn’t use my brain properly and only thought singularly without deviations then I would undoubtedly be as stuck as you are.

Fortunately for me, that is not the case.

I don’t have to defend anything. You’re simply wrong and can’t accept it.