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in all those cases the US did it for its own self intrest, not the country they intervened in
And clearly Russia’s attack on the election was in their own self intrest. Implying a quid pro quo with the installed regime.
Which means Trump has to go as he isn’t working for the US’s intrest
No... The US is the hegemonic power in the world. Yes, Russia acted in her own self-interest as you would expect, but that doesn’t have to take the form of a preferred candidate. Russia sought to cause and sow discord among the American people, and they succeeded. That serves and served Russian interest far more than acting in a single preferred candidates favor to secure an election.
Are you saying you think they did it with (a) no endgame in mind and (b) hoping to be discovered? That seems unlikely in the extreme.
The discord was their endgame. How much time has been spent going after Trump over Russian interference? Since they also passed information to the Clinton campaign do you really think it would be any different if she had won?
We are further divided as a country than at anytime in my life. That has an effect on politics and creates opportunities for other rival nations.
I don’t think you undertake something as risky as this with and endgame of “discord”. I think most nations capable of organizing this type of effort are sophisticated enough to have more comprehensive goals for the risk profile it presents.
Why not? What is really the fallout? We already have sanctions against Russia. We aren’t going to war with a nuclear or a near-peer conventional power unless we have no other choice. Europe isn’t going to pressure them because they get most of their power from Russia and because they benefit from US political turmoil...
What really is the downside for Russia?
Just because we are already sanctioning them doesn’t mean more sanctions cannot be imposed. If you are caught early on and exposed you risk getting zero affect and steeling the resolve of the opposing populace to impose harsher sanctions. You risk dramatically changing the political climate to your detriment. These types of things can cause a snowball affect which could absolutely end up in war.
Please... If you think we are going to war with a nuclear or near-peer military anytime in your or your grandchildren’s lifetime you’re a fool.
We pick on the kid with Downs Syndrome down the street. That’s it.
