UnderGround Forums A. Silva and the fence

2/10/19 7:27 AM
2/7/03
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Why does he always do that? Backing up and putting his back to the fence? Is he trying to prove something, or does he have a secret move up his sleeve (and no one ever falls for it)?

2/10/19 7:32 AM
1/21/18
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think its because he is comfortable there and most fighters consider it a safe place to be when youve backed your opponent up to the cage and often get reckless.

2/10/19 7:33 AM
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riodejaneiro -

Why does he always do that? Backing up and putting his back to the fence? Is he trying to prove something, or does he have a secret move up his sleeve (and no one ever falls for it)?

Mindgames

 

also worked great vs people who wanted to take him down. 

2/10/19 7:35 AM
7/16/14
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No one falls for it now cuz they know not to follow him there 

2/10/19 7:36 AM
8/19/03
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RightHandOfDOOM -

think its because he is comfortable there and most fighters consider it a safe place to be when youve backed your opponent up to the cage and often get reckless.

This is what I think it is, too.  It's a preemptive action against the takedown,  and also a way of goading someone in to start striking recklessly.  Silva always was at his best when counter striking. 

Edited: 2/10/19 9:10 AM
1/1/01
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Also challenges them to come forward and attack/engage and makes the crowd angry at his opponent if they don’t. Israel finally got shook and ran backwards to the center calling anderson to follow him into open mat, and he did.

2/10/19 9:22 AM
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Trying to be like Roy Jones 

2/10/19 9:25 AM
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He seemed to start doing that more after the first Chael Sonnen fight. He wants his back to the fence so he doesn't get taken down as easily.
2/10/19 10:05 AM
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Smokestack -

Trying to be like Roy Jones 

This 

2/10/19 10:07 AM
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It worked well against Bonnar.

2/10/19 1:26 PM
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Jump Kick -

Also challenges them to come forward and attack/engage and makes the crowd angry at his opponent if they don’t. Israel finally got shook and ran backwards to the center calling anderson to follow him into open mat, and he did.

Yeah - what I loved about that was Anderson initially backing up to the fence; Israel wagging his finger at him and backing into the centre; Anderson obliging but still with his hands down and using only head movement.

 

I thought Andy looked formidable out there.

 

Israel doesn't live up to the hype. Not enough power, young man.

2/10/19 1:28 PM
3/6/07
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Yomarashi -

No one falls for it now cuz they know not to follow him there 

You should be an MMA coach. Great insight. 

2/10/19 1:30 PM
11/28/03
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i thought when he does it, its just to mess with his opponent, "here i am with no way to back away from your strikes, try to hurt me now"

2/10/19 2:25 PM
11/18/09
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I think everything Andy does, especially early in the fight, is all done to make the opponent react and start throwing so he can counter. He doesn’t like to lead and has KOd a bunch of people with a counter punch or even going backwards. 

2/10/19 2:58 PM
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ILKR - 
Jump Kick -

Also challenges them to come forward and attack/engage and makes the crowd angry at his opponent if they don’t. Israel finally got shook and ran backwards to the center calling anderson to follow him into open mat, and he did.

Yeah - what I loved about that was Anderson initially backing up to the fence; Israel wagging his finger at him and backing into the centre; Anderson obliging but still with his hands down and using only head movement.

 

I thought Andy looked formidable out there.

 

Israel doesn't live up to the hype. Not enough power, young man.


Not enough killer instinct, power, diversity!

Anderson isn't going to wrestle you offensively except in rare circumstances. Adesanya had the absolute perfect matchup to show himself and he shit the bed. Anderson kept him frozen most of the time and unwilling to do anything to show he has more than some flashy standup.

The top MW's will tear him up. Romero would have a field day with Adesanya for instance.
2/10/19 3:52 PM
9/23/07
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It took away adesanyas power low kick. nobody wants to break a toe on the cage fence.
2/10/19 5:39 PM
10/14/12
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LoL @"no one"

2/10/19 5:43 PM
7/30/03
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It’s always helped him defend takedowns in the past. 

2/10/19 6:48 PM
9/7/17
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Silva is a counter-striker and backing himself up encourages people to engage with him along a predictable path. He's also shown himself to be vulnerable to takedowns in the middle of the ring and getting his back against the fence takes that out of the equation. There's also an element of psychological warfare to it. Mind games.

There may be other things too but those stand out.
2/10/19 9:46 PM
11/27/11
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It’s the spiders web

2/10/19 9:59 PM
12/23/08
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Obviously a different sport, but I remembering seeing an interview with Freddie Roach many years ago after he had a couple of boxing seasons with him.

 

He mentioned that his main bad habit in boxing was getting backed up against the ropes and staying there.

2/10/19 10:02 PM
1/1/01
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It’s a trap. And a ballsy one at that.

2/10/19 11:16 PM
10/26/05
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He's a counter striker... He's inviting his opponent to tee off so he can counter. When he was younger and quicker it was his bread and butter. 

Edited: 2/10/19 11:23 PM
1/23/06
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Because Muhammad Ali used to do that.

2/11/19 2:33 AM
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