UnderGround Forums Anyone picking Gaethje over Khabib?

Edited: 8/12/20 10:00 AM
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Im pretty torn on this. Khabib's wrestling is NO joke and he seems to beable to take anyone down at will....BUT he seemed to struggle at moments against Conor. I believe Gaethje can likely create more of those moments...if his conditioning allows him to. 
 

Although Gaethje is a great NCAA, All American, State Champ...I know Khabib's styIe differs from Folk...for those more knowledgeable than me in wrestling, will this also play a factor? 

8/12/20 10:04 AM
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Hard to pick against Khabib. He has got to be the pick at 155 until he loses or shows serious vulnerability. That said, I think Justin has the best shot of anyone currently in the weight And, I would not be surprised if Justin beats him up. We know how he'd do it.

But, until they fight, I think we have to assume it'll look like the Dustin fight.

8/12/20 10:21 AM
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wiggum -

Hard to pick against Khabib. He has got to be the pick at 155 until he loses or shows serious vulnerability. That said, I think Justin has the best shot of anyone currently in the weight And, I would not be surprised if Justin beats him up. We know how he'd do it.

But, until they fight, I think we have to assume it'll look like the Dustin fight.

Eh Dustins TDD is pretty bad, Dan Hooker who's a kickboxer took him down a bunch. Hell tiny Mike Brown was taking him down

8/12/20 10:23 AM
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wiggum -

Hard to pick against Khabib. He has got to be the pick at 155 until he loses or shows serious vulnerability. That said, I think Justin has the best shot of anyone currently in the weight And, I would not be surprised if Justin beats him up. We know how he'd do it.

But, until they fight, I think we have to assume it'll look like the Dustin fight.

Eh Dustins TDD is pretty bad, Dan Hooker who's a kickboxer took him down a bunch. Hell tiny Mike Brown was taking him down


I cited the Dustin fight as "random good fighter whom Khabib has beat down."

8/12/20 10:28 AM
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wiggum -

Hard to pick against Khabib. He has got to be the pick at 155 until he loses or shows serious vulnerability. That said, I think Justin has the best shot of anyone currently in the weight And, I would not be surprised if Justin beats him up. We know how he'd do it.

But, until they fight, I think we have to assume it'll look like the Dustin fight.

Like dustin fight? The most one sided fight khabib ever had? Justin controls range better and sits lower, can easily shut off light with any hand, khabib wont break, neither Justin, but i think it will be who can recover better between rounds and has a better cardio, wins

8/12/20 10:30 AM
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wiggum -
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wiggum -

Hard to pick against Khabib. He has got to be the pick at 155 until he loses or shows serious vulnerability. That said, I think Justin has the best shot of anyone currently in the weight And, I would not be surprised if Justin beats him up. We know how he'd do it.

But, until they fight, I think we have to assume it'll look like the Dustin fight.

Eh Dustins TDD is pretty bad, Dan Hooker who's a kickboxer took him down a bunch. Hell tiny Mike Brown was taking him down


I cited the Dustin fight as "random good fighter whom Khabib has beat down."

But Stylistically the two couldn't be more different lol

8/12/20 10:32 AM
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We have never seen Khabib look bad. Good luck winning a decision against that guy. His stand up is underrated too.

8/12/20 10:36 AM
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We have never seen Khabib look bad. Good luck winning a decision against that guy. His stand up is underrated too.

The Abel fight was pretty close

8/12/20 10:39 AM
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I think Justin takes it based of mefrrdenrn

8/12/20 11:57 AM
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Yep

8/12/20 1:09 PM
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Picking Gaethje
Edited: 8/12/20 2:06 PM
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wiggum -
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wiggum - Hard to pick against Khabib. He has got to be the pick at 155 until he loses or shows serious vulnerability. That said, I think Justin has the best shot of anyone currently in the weight And, I would not be surprised if Justin beats him up. We know how he'd do it.

But, until they fight, I think we have to assume it'll look like the Dustin fight.

Eh Dustins TDD is pretty bad, Dan Hooker who's a kickboxer took him down a bunch. Hell tiny Mike Brown was taking him down


I cited the Dustin fight as "random good fighter whom Khabib has beat down."

But Stylistically the two couldn't be more different lol

Imo AL Iaquinta is the best example of Gathjes styIe that Khabib has fought.

 

Look at Al's fight with Masvidal for example and you will see a much like Justin's.

 

Khabib fought AL a little different by striking on the outside and making AL become the aggressor. Khabib still won all 5 rounds and he made a very good fighter in Al look much worse than he had looked previously against Sanchez Masvidal Louzon etc. 

8/12/20 1:23 PM
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Justin is going to KO Khabib...book it!
8/12/20 1:46 PM
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Calhoon - 
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wiggum -
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wiggum -

Hard to pick against Khabib. He has got to be the pick at 155 until he loses or shows serious vulnerability. That said, I think Justin has the best shot of anyone currently in the weight And, I would not be surprised if Justin beats him up. We know how he'd do it.

But, until they fight, I think we have to assume it'll look like the Dustin fight.

Eh Dustins TDD is pretty bad, Dan Hooker who's a kickboxer took him down a bunch. Hell tiny Mike Brown was taking him down


I cited the Dustin fight as "random good fighter whom Khabib has beat down."

But Stylistically the two couldn't be more different lol

Imo AL Iaquinta is the best example of Gathjes styIe that Khabib has fought.

 

Look at Al's fights with Masvidal for example and you will see a much like Justin's.

 

Khabib fought AL a little different by striking on the outside and making AL become the aggressor. Khabib still won all 5 rounds and he made a very good fighter in Al look much worse than he had looked previously against Sanchez Masvidal Louzon etc. 


100%.

An important thing to remember about that fight is that Khabib's wrestling started "failing" only because Al dedicated 100% of his focus to TDD and it led Khabib just his face off.

8/12/20 1:51 PM
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Has kahbib's chin ever been tested?  Gaethje hits like a truck.

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wiggum -
Calhoon - 
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wiggum -
Bend The Knee - 
wiggum - Hard to pick against Khabib. He has got to be the pick at 155 until he loses or shows serious vulnerability. That said, I think Justin has the best shot of anyone currently in the weight And, I would not be surprised if Justin beats him up. We know how he'd do it.

But, until they fight, I think we have to assume it'll look like the Dustin fight.

Eh Dustins TDD is pretty bad, Dan Hooker who's a kickboxer took him down a bunch. Hell tiny Mike Brown was taking him down


I cited the Dustin fight as "random good fighter whom Khabib has beat down."

But Stylistically the two couldn't be more different lol

Imo AL Iaquinta is the best example of Gathjes styIe that Khabib has fought.

 

Look at Al's fights with Masvidal for example and you will see a much like Justin's.

 

Khabib fought AL a little different by striking on the outside and making AL become the aggressor. Khabib still won all 5 rounds and he made a very good fighter in Al look much worse than he had looked previously against Sanchez Masvidal Louzon etc. 


100%.

An important thing to remember about that fight is that Khabib's wrestling started "failing" only because Al dedicated 100% of his focus to TDD and it led Khabib just his face off.

True, and I believe if a fighter like Justin and Al, who have a shorter range they like to fight in, starts devoting more energy to their striking with a guy like Khabib who stays on the outside, it makes them vulnerable to getting taken down, no matter how good their wrestling is.

8/12/20 1:57 PM
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Any of you think there’s a chance their $nitch manager could influence this fight in any way? 

8/12/20 1:58 PM
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The problem is if Gaethje wins his first defense will be against Conor and Conor will sleep him.  But Conor only has a 1% chance of ever beating Khabib.

I honestly feel Khabib beats Justin, but Justin is the best threat in the division.

 

* On a Side Note:  I guarantee Dana is rooting for JG to win to slip Conor back into talks.

8/12/20 2:00 PM
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EricM -

Has kahbib's chin ever been tested?  Gaethje hits like a truck.

Geathje does hit like a truck and Khabib does keep his chin up high at times. That could be a factor imo but I think Khabib will probably handle the fight like he did against Al.

8/12/20 2:09 PM
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On a SideNote - 

The problem is if Gaethje wins his first defense will be against Conor and Conor will sleep him.  But Conor only has a 1% chance of ever beating Khabib.

I honestly feel Khabib beats Justin, but Justin is the best threat in the division.

 

* On a Side Note:  I guarantee Dana is rooting for JG to win to slip Conor back into talks.


Why exactly is this a problem?

So many variables to consider, such as Khabib's aura will be gone (this is a real thing in MMA), Khabib might retire, Conor might be working on his TD defense, etc.

8/12/20 2:15 PM
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I going with Gaethje. Its going to be a great and tough fight for sure!!
Edited: 8/12/20 2:25 PM
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There's a good chance this fight will be one sided. All depending on takedowns (or defense of)


Edit: so while the build up is incredible, as we dont know what will happen, the bout itself could be pretty much a linear thing

8/12/20 2:35 PM
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We have never seen Khabib look bad. Good luck winning a decision against that guy. His stand up is underrated too.

The Abel fight was pretty close

Didn’t Khabib break the takedown record in that fight? Lmao 

8/12/20 3:01 PM
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dinkledorf -

We have never seen Khabib look bad. Good luck winning a decision against that guy. His stand up is underrated too.

The Abel fight was pretty close

Didn’t Khabib break the takedown record in that fight? Lmao 

Did he? Maybe I'm thinking of another fight LOL

8/12/20 3:01 PM
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On a SideNote -

The problem is if Gaethje wins his first defense will be against Conor and Conor will sleep him.  But Conor only has a 1% chance of ever beating Khabib.

I honestly feel Khabib beats Justin, but Justin is the best threat in the division.

 

* On a Side Note:  I guarantee Dana is rooting for JG to win to slip Conor back into talks.

Justin will toss Connor around the ring for 25 minutes