8 days ago
9/4/19
Posts: 33

Fascinating to still follow. He went to thailand for a Muay thai fight, got caught up. Got emotional about how his face is now scarred up and how little money he made. He sounds extremely concussed from the years he took massive shots. His body is just full of steroids. He looks great but moves slow. 

 

It's sort of like, what happens when you're 44 and don't have a backup plan and just keep fighting. how long is it going to last? Who knows. 

8 days ago
12/7/14
Posts: 3014

he should lure Ken Shamrock into a comeback fight in Ken's bareknuckle promotion

8 days ago
8/4/12
Posts: 283

Link?

8 days ago
8/20/03
Posts: 147850

This is why there should be some sort of pension plan ofr fighters where a portion of their winnings go into a retirement fund.

8 days ago
2/15/11
Posts: 2524
Captain Canuck - 

This is why there should be some sort of pension plan ofr fighters where a portion of their winnings go into a retirement fund.


logistical nightmare.

I fought 1 pro fight, how much money would I get?
8 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 27056
ShootProod - 
Captain Canuck - 

This is why there should be some sort of pension plan ofr fighters where a portion of their winnings go into a retirement fund.


logistical nightmare.

I fought 1 pro fight, how much money would I get?

This.

I had to work for my company (not just an IT firm, but my specific company) for 7 years before I was fully vested in the pension plan.

If I remain with the firm for the rest of my career (20+ years) and keep paying into it regularly, I'll get a small pension that will help buttress the 401k I'm paying into. If I leave early it will be laughably small.

The logistics of making a "fighter" pension plan are monumental.

It's something that sounds nice when people say it, but from a practical perspective it's nonsense.

8 days ago
8/20/03
Posts: 147853
ShootProod - 
Captain Canuck - 

This is why there should be some sort of pension plan ofr fighters where a portion of their winnings go into a retirement fund.


logistical nightmare.

I fought 1 pro fight, how much money would I get?

You'd need a company to invest and manage it.

Whatever you put in, you get a percentage when you retire.

8 days ago
3/20/15
Posts: 200
Captain Canuck -

This is why there should be some sort of pension plan ofr fighters where a portion of their winnings go into a retirement fund.

Never understood this argument. That fighters should be paid more? Fine, if the promotion's making bank. But a pension plan? I don't have one and I won't get to retire when I'm 40. 

These are able-bodied, able-minded individuals when they start their career. What about the guy whose business goes under when he's 40? It's rough, but it's life

8 days ago
9/4/19
Posts: 35

NFL had the concussion settlement and pension. I think OJ is still getting his pension and the courts can't touch it. 

8 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 15691

video?

8 days ago
6/9/16
Posts: 6256

You can see it all in this thread:


https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround/Baroni-sliced-open-during-Thailand-fight:2796503?pc=40

8 days ago
12/23/02
Posts: 5381

Isnt he fighting bare knuckle this weekend on same card as Artem vs. Jason Knight?

8 days ago
12/23/02
Posts: 5382

Sorry not this weekend but november 16. Saw it posted on Facebook but not sure if still all fights listed are happening.

8 days ago
4/11/10
Posts: 28620

baroni is the only fighter with the heart of a lion

TEAM HAMMER HOUSE, FAGGOTS!

8 days ago
11/19/09
Posts: 4887

A pension plan is terrible....he chose this path in life. I loved/love watching baroni fight but he could have got a job and fought or just had a regular job thinking of his future

8 days ago
10/6/02
Posts: 7494
ChimpFL - 

Isnt he fighting bare knuckle this weekend on same card as Artem vs. Jason Knight?


I thought it is Artem vs CM Punk, no?
7 days ago
6/3/08
Posts: 925

Baloni. 

7 days ago
6/27/18
Posts: 4155

I get it. I sympathize. But it's really on Baroni that he is still fighting for money like this. His choice.

Look at Matt Serra, he is the same age as Baroni and came up in the same era of MMA. Even came from the same part of the U.S.

But Matt has a great life now with income from his multiple BJJ schools and affiliates, his UFC podcasting gig, his seminars. Married with 3 kids, house in the suburbs.

Matt hasn't sparred with gloves in close to 10 years and he says he doesn't miss it at all.

A fighting career is what you make of it.

7 days ago
11/29/11
Posts: 11371

Baroni should open a gym and coach. He's been around that long if he remembers half the shit taught to him it would be one hell of a school. Even if he wasn't able to implement it in the cage. The wrestling and boxing combo skill set alone is a great idea for a gym 

7 days ago
6/27/18
Posts: 4159
2breath2feel -

Baroni should open a gym and coach. He's been around that long if he remembers half the shit taught to him it would be one hell of a school. Even if he wasn't able to implement it in the cage. The wrestling and boxing combo skill set alone is a great idea for a gym 

I agree in spirit, but teaching, coaching, and running a business are skills. You need the right attitude and you need to learn and develop over time. You need to be good with people. It's not an automatic job for any fighter.

The sad truth is, Baroni has never shown the temperament for that.

7 days ago
4/21/12
Posts: 8955
ChimpFL -

Isnt he fighting bare knuckle this weekend on same card as Artem vs. Jason Knight?

He's scheduled to put his unvictorious (0-1) bare knuckle record on the line against undefeated (1-0) legend Bobby Gunn. Neither guy has let a bare knuckle fight go to the judges, so you can expect some fireworks in this one.

Bobby Gunn is known for being willing to take a punch to the dome while closing distance to land a body shot. Against a guy who has a history of gas tank issues, this sounds like a potentially winning strategy. Guarantee: This fight doesn't go past the first round.

7 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 14914

You look at a lot of fighters and wonder what their long term plan is.  Some will make enough to never need money again, some build a career from the short(become tv guys or build gyms).  But other guys make enough for today and have no long term plan. 

7 days ago
7/29/02
Posts: 77170
he could sell buicks
7 days ago
4/20/08
Posts: 22583
inf0 - he could sell buicks

I dunno, he didnt really sell me on his, all of those years ago lol

7 days ago
12/14/15
Posts: 4686
PaulfromNY -

Fascinating to still follow. He went to thailand for a Muay thai fight, got caught up. Got emotional about how his face is now scarred up and how little money he made. He sounds extremely concussed from the years he took massive shots. His body is just full of steroids. He looks great but moves slow. 

 

It's sort of like, what happens when you're 44 and don't have a backup plan and just keep fighting. how long is it going to last? Who knows. 

He made little because the numbnuts bet his entire purse on winning via 1st round KO. He’s a punchbag in 2019 but his IG is worth a follow just for the delusional bullshit he comes out with. 
 

#besteva