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8/13/19 12:22 PM
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I rarely post anymore and never watch Schaub videos... but that was surprisingly captivating. Documentarian went in hard on that one. 

I must agree with one thing, the way he treated/treats Callen is the main thing that made him intolerable. Don't be that guy. Ever. 

Callen just seems like such a fun going person who can have at least semi interesting conversations about a really wide range of topics because he's at least mildly knowledgle about a lot of things.  He's pretty damn funny just off the cuff and I've really enjoyed him on MadTV and the goldbergs in the past.  To have his takes get stomped on and talked over by Brandon just annoys me way too much to put up with.  The dude can take a joke, make fun of himself and get along with pretty much anyone and then we have Brandon over there putting a damper on everything because he can't check his ego.  Its a bummer.

He basically used him to help him start a podcast and become friends with Rogan, then started to treat him like shit.

 

Yea, that's essentially how its played out I guess.

8/13/19 12:48 PM
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lol

8/13/19 12:50 PM
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seemed like "everyone" always thought schaub was a d-bag. yet rogan put him on his show and now he has a following somehow....

8/13/19 2:51 PM
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he is the most impressive thing on Rogan's already impressive resume... two hit TV shows, a smash hit podcast and popular broadcaster for UFC... but making Schaub into a success trumps all those accomplishments... that one is truly remarkable...

8/13/19 10:47 PM
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It's funny, for me this is reminiscent of the whole Opie saga - I always saw YouTube comments and forum hate for Opie but never thought much of it.  Then after somebody distilled what the issues were, I couldn't unsee it!  

 

After seeing the docu, and then seeing him on his recent Rogan appearance, his aggressively ignorant stance on guns was appalling. I then watched the TFATK with Mat Best as a guest, and Brendan was just obnoxious and loud and plowed over people when they tried to talk.  Just an awful dynamic for a podcast when people are cross-talking and you have someone always trying to one up others in volume, ESPECIALLY when its something not well thought out.  One noteable difference between him and Rogan is that Joe will at least let you finish and hear you out before disagreeing with you, and not just cut you off with a retort that shows he wasnt even listening in the first place. I get it now.

8/14/19 12:25 PM
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30,000 hits, lol

 

Your welcome kirik.

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Brendon continues to interrupt people, including Joe, then obnoxiously say: "I don't mean to interrupt, but..." then keep on going. Is nauseating how unaware he is of his own douchiness. 

Joe and Bryan obviously back off of Brendon whenever he goes on his tard rants and says uneducated dumb shit because they see challenging him as "punching down" because he's half retarded. This is a fact. They treat him like an overgrown goofball child. Both Brendon and Joe cannot handle real criticism directed at them.

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shaqitup -
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I rarely post anymore and never watch Schaub videos... but that was surprisingly captivating. Documentarian went in hard on that one. 

I must agree with one thing, the way he treated/treats Callen is the main thing that made him intolerable. Don't be that guy. Ever. 

Callen just seems like such a fun going person who can have at least semi interesting conversations about a really wide range of topics because he's at least mildly knowledgle about a lot of things.  He's pretty damn funny just off the cuff and I've really enjoyed him on MadTV and the goldbergs in the past.  To have his takes get stomped on and talked over by Brandon just annoys me way too much to put up with.  The dude can take a joke, make fun of himself and get along with pretty much anyone and then we have Brandon over there putting a damper on everything because he can't check his ego.  Its a bummer.

He basically used him to help him start a podcast and become friends with Rogan, then started to treat him like shit.

 

Schaub the type of guy that does not care about anyone but his ego and vanity.  No man can dress like that and legitimately care about anything but himself.  He will feign caring to impress people (like with Borg), but Schaub is the definition of delusional self obsessed ego maniac.

8/15/19 2:40 AM
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I watched small parts of the doc and I'm not gonna comment on Schaubs personality more than that I enjoy him on The King & The Sting and I think the dynamic between the 2 is fun.(Big Theo Von fan.)

But putting that much effort into making a "hater tape" about such an insignificant person like Schaub is sad and you can't have much of a life if you do that.

I also just heard Colby Covington on food truck diaries drop a beautiful quote that fits well here:

"Did you ever meet a hater that was doing better than you?"

 

8/15/19 3:08 AM
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lol

I died when I saw that too.

8/15/19 3:28 AM
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I got a GIF you guys should enjoy

8/15/19 3:48 AM
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8/15/19 9:34 AM
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I watched small parts of the doc and I'm not gonna comment on Schaubs personality more than that I enjoy him on The King & The Sting and I think the dynamic between the 2 is fun.(Big Theo Von fan.)

But putting that much effort into making a "hater tape" about such an insignificant person like Schaub is sad and you can't have much of a life if you do that.

I also just heard Colby Covington on food truck diaries drop a beautiful quote that fits well here:

"Did you ever meet a hater that was doing better than you?"

 

I never really understood this criticism - some peoples skills lie in observing, and distilling down those observations into specific points and examples. If this guy wasnt good at that this docu wouldve been painful and seemingly a bit pathetic to watch. But, he was making valid points and observations, which I think basically shields it from criticisms of him just "hating". 

Are movie critics hating when they give a movie a bad review and explain why it wasnt a good film?  This particular critique doesnt seem to be done out of actual hate, but more a justifiable dislike of someone for ther very public behavior.  

8/15/19 12:20 PM
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I watched small parts of the doc and I'm not gonna comment on Schaubs personality more than that I enjoy him on The King & The Sting and I think the dynamic between the 2 is fun.(Big Theo Von fan.)

But putting that much effort into making a "hater tape" about such an insignificant person like Schaub is sad and you can't have much of a life if you do that.

I also just heard Colby Covington on food truck diaries drop a beautiful quote that fits well here:

"Did you ever meet a hater that was doing better than you?"

 

I never really understood this criticism - some peoples skills lie in observing, and distilling down those observations into specific points and examples. If this guy wasnt good at that this docu wouldve been painful and seemingly a bit pathetic to watch. But, he was making valid points and observations, which I think basically shields it from criticisms of him just "hating". 

Are movie critics hating when they give a movie a bad review and explain why it wasnt a good film?  This particular critique doesnt seem to be done out of actual hate, but more a justifiable dislike of someone for ther very public behavior.  

What I'm saying is, choosing a d-list celeb bafoon of no importance whatsoever as your subject matter for scrutiny you must be a hater with no life because it's absolutely pointless.

If you did these for people running for office I'd get it but this? Nah

And I actually DID think it was quite pathetic and had to fast forward through it.

Movie and music reviews has been a thing forever so it's a weird comparison imo but anyway in some cases music reviewers are complete haters looking for details in an artists performance, music or clothes to rag on that the artist's listeners don't give a fuck about, so yes, some of them are haters too.

Movie critics, I get it.

Music critics, I get it.

People of absolute zero importance critics? I don't get it.

 

 

 

Edited: 8/17/19 12:49 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U7z9JZoRaA

 

8/17/19 12:49 AM
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8/17/19 1:52 AM
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I watched small parts of the doc and I'm not gonna comment on Schaubs personality more than that I enjoy him on The King & The Sting and I think the dynamic between the 2 is fun.(Big Theo Von fan.)

But putting that much effort into making a "hater tape" about such an insignificant person like Schaub is sad and you can't have much of a life if you do that.

I also just heard Colby Covington on food truck diaries drop a beautiful quote that fits well here:

"Did you ever meet a hater that was doing better than you?"

 

I never really understood this criticism - some peoples skills lie in observing, and distilling down those observations into specific points and examples. If this guy wasnt good at that this docu wouldve been painful and seemingly a bit pathetic to watch. But, he was making valid points and observations, which I think basically shields it from criticisms of him just "hating". 

Are movie critics hating when they give a movie a bad review and explain why it wasnt a good film?  This particular critique doesnt seem to be done out of actual hate, but more a justifiable dislike of someone for ther very public behavior.  

What I'm saying is, choosing a d-list celeb bafoon of no importance whatsoever as your subject matter for scrutiny you must be a hater with no life because it's absolutely pointless.

If you did these for people running for office I'd get it but this? Nah

And I actually DID think it was quite pathetic and had to fast forward through it.

Movie and music reviews has been a thing forever so it's a weird comparison imo but anyway in some cases music reviewers are complete haters looking for details in an artists performance, music or clothes to rag on that the artist's listeners don't give a fuck about, so yes, some of them are haters too.

Movie critics, I get it.

Music critics, I get it.

People of absolute zero importance critics? I don't get it.

 

 

 

How do you think he should construct a criticism of Schaub? What should he have done differently?

 

He voiced his opinion, backed it up, made it entertaining, and put it in a form that will help grow his youtube channel, but for some reason you're making it sound like he's an angry loser typing unhinged screeds on the internet.

 

What do you think he should have done differently? How should he criticize Schaub so that it doesn't come across as hating?

 

 

8/17/19 4:15 AM
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The guy who made the documentary is obviously talented as well as intelligent. Trying to deny that makes you look dumb as fuck. 


Cheetos should sponsor him.
8/17/19 4:42 AM
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I watched small parts of the doc and I'm not gonna comment on Schaubs personality more than that I enjoy him on The King & The Sting and I think the dynamic between the 2 is fun.(Big Theo Von fan.)

But putting that much effort into making a "hater tape" about such an insignificant person like Schaub is sad and you can't have much of a life if you do that.

I also just heard Colby Covington on food truck diaries drop a beautiful quote that fits well here:

"Did you ever meet a hater that was doing better than you?"

 

I never really understood this criticism - some peoples skills lie in observing, and distilling down those observations into specific points and examples. If this guy wasnt good at that this docu wouldve been painful and seemingly a bit pathetic to watch. But, he was making valid points and observations, which I think basically shields it from criticisms of him just "hating". 

Are movie critics hating when they give a movie a bad review and explain why it wasnt a good film?  This particular critique doesnt seem to be done out of actual hate, but more a justifiable dislike of someone for ther very public behavior.  

What I'm saying is, choosing a d-list celeb bafoon of no importance whatsoever as your subject matter for scrutiny you must be a hater with no life because it's absolutely pointless.

If you did these for people running for office I'd get it but this? Nah

And I actually DID think it was quite pathetic and had to fast forward through it.

Movie and music reviews has been a thing forever so it's a weird comparison imo but anyway in some cases music reviewers are complete haters looking for details in an artists performance, music or clothes to rag on that the artist's listeners don't give a fuck about, so yes, some of them are haters too.

Movie critics, I get it.

Music critics, I get it.

People of absolute zero importance critics? I don't get it.

 

 

 

How do you think he should construct a criticism of Schaub? What should he have done differently?

 

He voiced his opinion, backed it up, made it entertaining, and put it in a form that will help grow his youtube channel, but for some reason you're making it sound like he's an angry loser typing unhinged screeds on the internet.

 

What do you think he should have done differently? How should he criticize Schaub so that it doesn't come across as hating?

 

 

How he should create an hour long indepth video criticizing the personality of a nobody without coming across as a jealous hater?

Impossible.

You're saying angry loser is wrong so you see a person doing that as a happy winner? 

 

If he wanted to criticize Schaub he could state it in a few sentences on a forum or under a YouTube video. That would be within reason. Any more than that and you have an unhealthy obsession with the guy and disproportionate amounts of jealousy and hate.

8/17/19 6:22 AM
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The guy who made the documentary is obviously talented as well as intelligent. Trying to deny that makes you look dumb as fuck. 

Why is he wasting his talent on Schaub though? Why not giving us a piece on something more constructive? Epstein seems like a worthy subject for someone with said "talent and intelligence". 

Until he stops producing TMZ level "documentary" he is just another wasted talent catering to dumbfucks on the interwebz. 

8/17/19 8:45 AM
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Smellde Gluve -

I watched small parts of the doc and I'm not gonna comment on Schaubs personality more than that I enjoy him on The King & The Sting and I think the dynamic between the 2 is fun.(Big Theo Von fan.)

But putting that much effort into making a "hater tape" about such an insignificant person like Schaub is sad and you can't have much of a life if you do that.

I also just heard Colby Covington on food truck diaries drop a beautiful quote that fits well here:

"Did you ever meet a hater that was doing better than you?"

 

I never really understood this criticism - some peoples skills lie in observing, and distilling down those observations into specific points and examples. If this guy wasnt good at that this docu wouldve been painful and seemingly a bit pathetic to watch. But, he was making valid points and observations, which I think basically shields it from criticisms of him just "hating". 

Are movie critics hating when they give a movie a bad review and explain why it wasnt a good film?  This particular critique doesnt seem to be done out of actual hate, but more a justifiable dislike of someone for ther very public behavior.  

What I'm saying is, choosing a d-list celeb bafoon of no importance whatsoever as your subject matter for scrutiny you must be a hater with no life because it's absolutely pointless.

If you did these for people running for office I'd get it but this? Nah

And I actually DID think it was quite pathetic and had to fast forward through it.

Movie and music reviews has been a thing forever so it's a weird comparison imo but anyway in some cases music reviewers are complete haters looking for details in an artists performance, music or clothes to rag on that the artist's listeners don't give a fuck about, so yes, some of them are haters too.

Movie critics, I get it.

Music critics, I get it.

People of absolute zero importance critics? I don't get it.

 

 

 

How do you think he should construct a criticism of Schaub? What should he have done differently?

 

He voiced his opinion, backed it up, made it entertaining, and put it in a form that will help grow his youtube channel, but for some reason you're making it sound like he's an angry loser typing unhinged screeds on the internet.

 

What do you think he should have done differently? How should he criticize Schaub so that it doesn't come across as hating?

 

 

How he should create an hour long indepth video criticizing the personality of a nobody without coming across as a jealous hater?

Impossible.

You're saying angry loser is wrong so you see a person doing that as a happy winner? 

 

If he wanted to criticize Schaub he could state it in a few sentences on a forum or under a YouTube video. That would be within reason. Any more than that and you have an unhealthy obsession with the guy and disproportionate amounts of jealousy and hate.

He's made videos about numerous people and been gaining subscribers recently. Even if he is a 'hater' (nobody over the age of 18 should use that term unironically, it's embarrassing) he makes entertaining content from it

 

his motivaion isn't 'I hate schaub so much I need to tell the world why' it's about shitting on people for content and based on the like/dislike ratio on his videos, people enjoy it

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Smellde Gluve -

I watched small parts of the doc and I'm not gonna comment on Schaubs personality more than that I enjoy him on The King & The Sting and I think the dynamic between the 2 is fun.(Big Theo Von fan.)

But putting that much effort into making a "hater tape" about such an insignificant person like Schaub is sad and you can't have much of a life if you do that.

I also just heard Colby Covington on food truck diaries drop a beautiful quote that fits well here:

"Did you ever meet a hater that was doing better than you?"

 

I never really understood this criticism - some peoples skills lie in observing, and distilling down those observations into specific points and examples. If this guy wasnt good at that this docu wouldve been painful and seemingly a bit pathetic to watch. But, he was making valid points and observations, which I think basically shields it from criticisms of him just "hating". 

Are movie critics hating when they give a movie a bad review and explain why it wasnt a good film?  This particular critique doesnt seem to be done out of actual hate, but more a justifiable dislike of someone for ther very public behavior.  

What I'm saying is, choosing a d-list celeb bafoon of no importance whatsoever as your subject matter for scrutiny you must be a hater with no life because it's absolutely pointless.

If you did these for people running for office I'd get it but this? Nah

And I actually DID think it was quite pathetic and had to fast forward through it.

Movie and music reviews has been a thing forever so it's a weird comparison imo but anyway in some cases music reviewers are complete haters looking for details in an artists performance, music or clothes to rag on that the artist's listeners don't give a fuck about, so yes, some of them are haters too.

Movie critics, I get it.

Music critics, I get it.

People of absolute zero importance critics? I don't get it.

 

 

 

How do you think he should construct a criticism of Schaub? What should he have done differently?

 

He voiced his opinion, backed it up, made it entertaining, and put it in a form that will help grow his youtube channel, but for some reason you're making it sound like he's an angry loser typing unhinged screeds on the internet.

 

What do you think he should have done differently? How should he criticize Schaub so that it doesn't come across as hating?

 

 

How he should create an hour long indepth video criticizing the personality of a nobody without coming across as a jealous hater?

Impossible.

You're saying angry loser is wrong so you see a person doing that as a happy winner? 

 

If he wanted to criticize Schaub he could state it in a few sentences on a forum or under a YouTube video. That would be within reason. Any more than that and you have an unhealthy obsession with the guy and disproportionate amounts of jealousy and hate.

You sound like you have never set foot on the internet before and have no idea how YouTube works. If you look at the guy's channel, it's pretty clear that he didn't hate Schaub so much that he had to bust out an hour-long documentary on the guy: he has created a lot of documentaries dissecting the unpleasantness behind the scenes of comedy.

 

He's working extremely hard to grow his youtube channel and is creating something that is both entertaining and really well-researched. That puts him well ahead of the curve of internet content creators, a lot of whom make my flesh crawl.

 

"If he wanted to criticize Schaub he could state it in a few sentences on a forum or under a YouTube video. That would be within reason."

 

fucking lol

8/17/19 12:21 PM
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I watched small parts of the doc and I'm not gonna comment on Schaubs personality more than that I enjoy him on The King & The Sting and I think the dynamic between the 2 is fun.(Big Theo Von fan.)

But putting that much effort into making a "hater tape" about such an insignificant person like Schaub is sad and you can't have much of a life if you do that.

I also just heard Colby Covington on food truck diaries drop a beautiful quote that fits well here:

"Did you ever meet a hater that was doing better than you?"

 

I never really understood this criticism - some peoples skills lie in observing, and distilling down those observations into specific points and examples. If this guy wasnt good at that this docu wouldve been painful and seemingly a bit pathetic to watch. But, he was making valid points and observations, which I think basically shields it from criticisms of him just "hating". 

Are movie critics hating when they give a movie a bad review and explain why it wasnt a good film?  This particular critique doesnt seem to be done out of actual hate, but more a justifiable dislike of someone for ther very public behavior.  

What I'm saying is, choosing a d-list celeb bafoon of no importance whatsoever as your subject matter for scrutiny you must be a hater with no life because it's absolutely pointless.

If you did these for people running for office I'd get it but this? Nah

And I actually DID think it was quite pathetic and had to fast forward through it.

Movie and music reviews has been a thing forever so it's a weird comparison imo but anyway in some cases music reviewers are complete haters looking for details in an artists performance, music or clothes to rag on that the artist's listeners don't give a fuck about, so yes, some of them are haters too.

Movie critics, I get it.

Music critics, I get it.

People of absolute zero importance critics? I don't get it.

 

 

 

I hear you, but have to respectfully disagree. Even if beige frequency made a docu about some asshole down the block, and made it both entertaining and substantive, I'm all for that. I think you may just have a very different opinion with regards to what's justified and what isn't.

 

With regards to your comments on this being different from music and movies - if you really think about the direction that entertainment has been going the last 10 years, youd understand that people who are on big podcasts, have their own TV show and netflix special are not "nobodies" and valid targets of criticism and praise. Who should be the arbiter who deems somebody worthy of being critiqued?  I would argue that it's not the target, but the way in which they do it that should be seen as the more important determinant.  

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I watched small parts of the doc and I'm not gonna comment on Schaubs personality more than that I enjoy him on The King & The Sting and I think the dynamic between the 2 is fun.(Big Theo Von fan.)

But putting that much effort into making a "hater tape" about such an insignificant person like Schaub is sad and you can't have much of a life if you do that.

I also just heard Colby Covington on food truck diaries drop a beautiful quote that fits well here:

"Did you ever meet a hater that was doing better than you?"

 

I never really understood this criticism - some peoples skills lie in observing, and distilling down those observations into specific points and examples. If this guy wasnt good at that this docu wouldve been painful and seemingly a bit pathetic to watch. But, he was making valid points and observations, which I think basically shields it from criticisms of him just "hating". 

Are movie critics hating when they give a movie a bad review and explain why it wasnt a good film?  This particular critique doesnt seem to be done out of actual hate, but more a justifiable dislike of someone for ther very public behavior.  

What I'm saying is, choosing a d-list celeb bafoon of no importance whatsoever as your subject matter for scrutiny you must be a hater with no life because it's absolutely pointless.

If you did these for people running for office I'd get it but this? Nah

And I actually DID think it was quite pathetic and had to fast forward through it.

Movie and music reviews has been a thing forever so it's a weird comparison imo but anyway in some cases music reviewers are complete haters looking for details in an artists performance, music or clothes to rag on that the artist's listeners don't give a fuck about, so yes, some of them are haters too.

Movie critics, I get it.

Music critics, I get it.

People of absolute zero importance critics? I don't get it.

 

 

 

I hear you, but have to respectfully disagree. Even if beige frequency made a docu about some asshole down the block, and made it both entertaining and substantive, I'm all for that. I think you may just have a very different opinion with regards to what's justified and what isn't.

 

With regards to your comments on this being different from music and movies - if you really think about the direction that entertainment has been going the last 10 years, youd understand that people who are on big podcasts, have their own TV show and netflix special are not "nobodies" and valid targets of criticism and praise. Who should be the arbiter who deems somebody worthy of being critiqued?  I would argue that it's not the target, but the way in which they do it that should be seen as the more important determinant.  

Yes we just seem to disagree and that's fine and dandy.

"Who should be the arbiter who deems somebody worthy of being critiqued?"

I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to do it. 

But anyone who does that is a sad jealous hater imo.

 

8/17/19 12:53 PM
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The guy who made the documentary is obviously talented as well as intelligent. Trying to deny that makes you look dumb as fuck. 

Why is he wasting his talent on Schaub though? Why not giving us a piece on something more constructive? Epstein seems like a worthy subject for someone with said "talent and intelligence". 

Until he stops producing TMZ level "documentary" he is just another wasted talent catering to dumbfucks on the interwebz. 

Agreed 100%.

I'd get it if he did it on Trump or other politicians or officials.