UnderGround Forums Chack Liddel vs Rampage 1

3/25/20 9:39 PM
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First ten mins is the build up, around the 8:45 mark that goof Dana is interviewed.

3/25/20 9:41 PM
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My favorite MMA event ever.

Final Conflict 2003

Crocop/Nogueria was the main event.

 

3/25/20 10:05 PM
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Powdered Toast Man -

My favorite MMA event ever.

Final Conflict 2003

Crocop/Nogueria was the main event.

 

3/25/20 10:25 PM
12/8/12
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"He's not sticking to the plan!!"

3/25/20 10:30 PM
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Smilin like Rashad -

"He's not sticking to the plan!!"

We wanted leg kicks and knees

3/25/20 11:50 PM
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Thanks Barry_BondsMVP.

Look at the cards of this two-event tournament:

Total Elimination

Final Conflict

3/25/20 11:56 PM
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15 fights, 3 decisions.

Wandy and QJ fighting twice in the same night.

And of course, no testing.

Unreal.

3/26/20 12:08 AM
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Two amazing cards, they don’t make cards like that anymore 

3/26/20 12:15 AM
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liddell rampage 1 was a perspective fight. like watching mighty mouse in One, or Gaehje's first fight in the UFC

 

it helpedput the UFC vs Pride into perspective and help the perception the Pride was #1

 

Nog Rodriguez was smilar and helped make the UFC's Heavyweight look like real Contenders at the least

3/26/20 1:10 AM
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Rampage always had chucks number. Superior wrestler and boxer. 

3/26/20 1:40 AM
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I want to fack chack.

3/26/20 2:56 AM
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People do not realize just how good Rampage was back then. He was fast, powerful, could get you to the mat if he needed to. 

He used to do that high elbow guard to block, Tito and some of the other guys from that camp used to all do the same thing. It was effective. 

3/26/20 8:29 AM
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Non N00B - 

People do not realize just how good Rampage was back then. He was fast, powerful, could get you to the mat if he needed to. 

He used to do that high elbow guard to block, Tito and some of the other guys from that camp used to all do the same thing. It was effective. 


All this. Looking back, Rampage was probably the guy who would have given Fedor the toughest fight back then based on Rampage and Tito had that high chamber guard/Crazy Monkey defense going. For a time, they were the only guys who displayed any defensive boxing and kept their hands up. 

 

3/26/20 8:51 AM
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Quite possibly Rampage's best performance of his career when you look at the entirety of it.  This forum was LIT when this was going down. 

 

What fun times those were.  MMA was such a different landscape. 

 

Also too, props to Dana for having the balls to put one of his top dogs into that tournament and risking having him get tooled for all the world to see.

3/26/20 8:54 AM
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And holy shit, i forgot Dana still had hair back then

3/26/20 9:28 AM
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* chuck and page winging haymakers beating the absolute fuck out of each other *

Damon : going through a feeling out process here...

Dana : yeah, i was expecting a higher pace.

 

Da fuq ?

3/26/20 9:29 AM
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When rampage was hungry and actually cared he was a force to be reckoned with. He did to igor what igor did to enson.

Shows what a monster silva was during that period. 

Edited: 3/26/20 10:28 AM
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Smilin like Rashad -

"He's not sticking to the plan!!"

Dana was such an asshole during commentary. 

 

The way the tournament was set up was a joke. Give Silva an overmatched and underweight opponent in the first round. A Japanese can in Yoshida in the second round while Chuck had to go through legit monsters.

 

Of course they wanted to protect their brand but they UFC really put itself at a disadvantage there.

3/26/20 10:45 AM
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Lol at yoshida being a japanese can! 

3/26/20 11:11 AM
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Rumours of a couple works too - Randleman v Sak and Yoshida v Tamura.

I remember at the time thinking Rodriguez won the decision, and I was a massive Nog fan.

The idea of a quick tournament over two events works well.  Semi-finals in one tournament, with the finals in the next.  Bellator put on elaborate tournaments over the course of a year, with tournament fights spread amongst random cards.  It's almost impossible to follow or maintain interest.

They should bring back Pride just for the freakshow fights, bigger weight disparities, no testing etc.  Perhaps a place to send former UFC guys who are no longer competitive but still have name value.

3/26/20 11:19 AM
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nrallen -

Rumours of a couple works too - Randleman v Sak and Yoshida v Tamura.

I remember at the time thinking Rodriguez won the decision, and I was a massive Nog fan.

The idea of a quick tournament over two events works well.  Semi-finals in one tournament, with the finals in the next.  Bellator put on elaborate tournaments over the course of a year, with tournament fights spread amongst random cards.  It's almost impossible to follow or maintain interest.

They should bring back Pride just for the freakshow fights, bigger weight disparities, no testing etc.  Perhaps a place to send former UFC guys who are no longer competitive but still have name value.

Sak vs randleman def seemed like a work though i recall randlemans arm being fucked post fight. 

The sak / macias fight seemed like a work also given that you could literally hear them whispering to each other and giving cues. 

3/26/20 11:20 AM
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Its been too long but i think yoshida and tamura had beef. Seems odd that that fight would have been a work. 

3/26/20 12:13 PM
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DisIsDeRiddumOfDeNite -
Smilin like Rashad -

"He's not sticking to the plan!!"

Dana was such an asshole during commentary. 

 

The way the tournament was set up was a joke. Give Silva an overmatched and underweight opponent in the first round. A Japanese can in Yoshida in the second round while Chuck had to go through legit monsters.

 

Of course they wanted to protect their brand but they UFC really put itself at a disadvantage there.

They protected Silva for sure, Shogun never getting a chance at the title, and watch the first Rampage-Silva fight again, Rampage was in Silva’s guard highly active and affective.... you can see Silva’s corner trying to get the ref to stand them up, eventually he does and that was the end for Rampage.

 

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DisIsDeRiddumOfDeNite -
Smilin like Rashad -

"He's not sticking to the plan!!"

Dana was such an asshole during commentary. 

 

The way the tournament was set up was a joke. Give Silva an overmatched and underweight opponent in the first round. A Japanese can in Yoshida in the second round while Chuck had to go through legit monsters.

 

Of course they wanted to protect their brand but they UFC really put itself at a disadvantage there.

I think Dana though Chuck was going to go over there and wreck shit...still beat Reem

 

That Pride middleweight division was fucking STACKED!

3/26/20 12:19 PM
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WaltJ -

And holy shit, i forgot Dana still had hair back then

Yeah, it's weird! At that time he had hair, but no teeth's. Now days he is a boldie, with some nice teeth's. Strange world!