UnderGround Forums Clay Guida: Most Underrated MMA Fighter Ever

5/12/19 8:59 AM
1/12/05
Posts: 62026
The guy has been constantly overlooked. He beat Showtime Pettis down when he was supposed to be a welcome-to-the-UFC opponent. He beat RDA, Gomi, Nate Diaz, BJ Penn, J-Lau, Kawajiri, Josh Thompson, Bartimus, and Maynard (IMO). All via sheer will.

Nobody has so many quality wins on their record and gets such little respect.

Prejediced against Italians in this day and age.
5/12/19 9:04 AM
9/9/14
Posts: 4607
i guess hes okay great cardio

he couldnt put away the ghost of bj penn lsst night

how great can he be.

not trying to be a dikk but yeah.
5/12/19 9:10 AM
1/1/01
Posts: 30244
Bobby Lupo - The guy has been constantly overlooked. He beat Showtime Pettis down when he was supposed to be a welcome-to-the-UFC opponent. He beat RDA, Gomi, Nate Diaz, BJ Penn, J-Lau, Kawajiri, Josh Thompson, Bartimus, and Maynard (IMO). All via sheer will.

Nobody has so many quality wins on their record and gets such little respect.

Prejediced against Italians in this day and age.

He seems to have a lot of that neanderthal blood in him. Mixed up with all that Afro-Sicilian DNA makes him a real force to be reckoned with.

That being said he beat a 40-something year old Kawajiri and a shell of Gomi and Penn. No version of Clay could deal with prime Kawajiri, Gomi, Penn.
5/12/19 9:40 AM
1/12/05
Posts: 62027
BJ Penn Forever - 
Bobby Lupo - The guy has been constantly overlooked. He beat Showtime Pettis down when he was supposed to be a welcome-to-the-UFC opponent. He beat RDA, Gomi, Nate Diaz, BJ Penn, J-Lau, Kawajiri, Josh Thompson, Bartimus, and Maynard (IMO). All via sheer will.

Nobody has so many quality wins on their record and gets such little respect.

Prejediced against Italians in this day and age.

He seems to have a lot of that neanderthal blood in him. Mixed up with all that Afro-Sicilian DNA makes him a real force to be reckoned with.

That being said he beat a 40-something year old Kawajiri and a shell of Gomi and Penn. No version of Clay could deal with prime Kawajiri, Gomi, Penn.

Clay isn't a kid, though. Dude's 38 years old and fights a style that depends on establishing a breakneck pace.

5/12/19 9:45 AM
3/19/04
Posts: 22365
BJ Penn Forever -
Bobby Lupo - The guy has been constantly overlooked. He beat Showtime Pettis down when he was supposed to be a welcome-to-the-UFC opponent. He beat RDA, Gomi, Nate Diaz, BJ Penn, J-Lau, Kawajiri, Josh Thompson, Bartimus, and Maynard (IMO). All via sheer will.

Nobody has so many quality wins on their record and gets such little respect.

Prejediced against Italians in this day and age.

He seems to have a lot of that neanderthal blood in him. Mixed up with all that Afro-Sicilian DNA makes him a real force to be reckoned with.

That being said he beat a 40-something year old Kawajiri and a shell of Gomi and Penn. No version of Clay could deal with prime Kawajiri, Gomi, Penn.

With BJ Penn’s refusal to retire your screen name takes on new meaning.

5/12/19 9:47 AM
6/3/08
Posts: 707

Definitely not the pretty girl at the dance. Sadly he fell short against the elite.

5/12/19 9:48 AM
1/1/01
Posts: 30246
Bobby Lupo -
BJ Penn Forever - 
Bobby Lupo - The guy has been constantly overlooked. He beat Showtime Pettis down when he was supposed to be a welcome-to-the-UFC opponent. He beat RDA, Gomi, Nate Diaz, BJ Penn, J-Lau, Kawajiri, Josh Thompson, Bartimus, and Maynard (IMO). All via sheer will.

Nobody has so many quality wins on their record and gets such little respect.

Prejediced against Italians in this day and age.

He seems to have a lot of that neanderthal blood in him. Mixed up with all that Afro-Sicilian DNA makes him a real force to be reckoned with.

That being said he beat a 40-something year old Kawajiri and a shell of Gomi and Penn. No version of Clay could deal with prime Kawajiri, Gomi, Penn.

Clay isn't a kid, though. Dude's 38 years old and fights a style that depends on establishing a breakneck pace.

True he is almost as old as Gomi and BJ but they had declined a lot more than him by the time their fights happened. Not everyone declines at the same rate and Gomi and Penn always depended on being fast and explosive far more than Guida who relies much more on his excellent cardio, movement, pace, and wrestling. Still credit to Guida, I agree with you, he has always been unheralded.

5/12/19 10:22 AM
4/21/12
Posts: 8315

From 2010 to 2014, Anthony Pettis went on a 9-1 run. He earned 7 post-fight bonuses in that stretch (including WEC fights). He won the UFC LW belt. His only loss in those 10 fights? Clay Guida.

 

Clay has 9 post-fight bonuses and two FOTY awards. He was the WEC LW champ. He's fought 53 times as a pro, with 35 wins. 

 

Underrated? Probably not. More like underappreciated, because he hasn't finished a high percentage of his opponents and I think some people consider him a high-energy, hyperactive version of Jon Fitch. I've always liked watching his fights, because he comes ready for a scrap and seems to have a huge amount of respect for all of his opponents.  

5/12/19 10:24 AM
7/10/09
Posts: 810

I think he is properly rated.

5/12/19 11:17 AM
11/20/05
Posts: 21605
Bobby Lupo - The guy has been constantly overlooked. He beat Showtime Pettis down when he was supposed to be a welcome-to-the-UFC opponent. He beat RDA, Gomi, Nate Diaz, BJ Penn, J-Lau, Kawajiri, Josh Thompson, Bartimus, and Maynard (IMO). All via sheer will.

Nobody has so many quality wins on their record and gets such little respect.

Prejediced against Italians in this day and age.

Good line from Goodfellas at the end of your post. Too bad it wasn't a "Jew broad".
5/12/19 11:31 AM
2/17/03
Posts: 12679
He and Shields have had similar careers, with Shields doing everything a level above Clay.

On the merits, their lists of wins should earn them more credit than they tend to get.
5/12/19 11:37 AM
1/7/06
Posts: 7037

Extremely underrated.  Tough fight for anyone

5/12/19 11:38 AM
1/1/01
Posts: 58803
BJ Penn Forever - 
Bobby Lupo - The guy has been constantly overlooked. He beat Showtime Pettis down when he was supposed to be a welcome-to-the-UFC opponent. He beat RDA, Gomi, Nate Diaz, BJ Penn, J-Lau, Kawajiri, Josh Thompson, Bartimus, and Maynard (IMO). All via sheer will.

Nobody has so many quality wins on their record and gets such little respect.

Prejediced against Italians in this day and age.

He seems to have a lot of that neanderthal blood in him. Mixed up with all that Afro-Sicilian DNA makes him a real force to be reckoned with.

That being said he beat a 40-something year old Kawajiri and a shell of Gomi and Penn. No version of Clay could deal with prime Kawajiri, Gomi, Penn.

Kawajiri also did quite well against Guida. Picked him up and slammed him iirc.
5/12/19 11:39 AM
6/20/11
Posts: 31195

He had a short time where it looked like he would be a contender and then has spent years being fringe too 10.

Solid guy with logevity, seems properly rated

5/12/19 12:38 PM
5/16/12
Posts: 2342
Bobby Lupo - The guy has been constantly overlooked. He beat Showtime Pettis down when he was supposed to be a welcome-to-the-UFC opponent. He beat RDA, Gomi, Nate Diaz, BJ Penn, J-Lau, Kawajiri, Josh Thompson, Bartimus, and Maynard (IMO). All via sheer will.

Nobody has so many quality wins on their record and gets such little respect.

Prejediced against Italians in this day and age.

Can you believe that? A Jew broad prejudice against Italians 

5/12/19 1:19 PM
10/21/10
Posts: 666

Clay" The Blanket" Guida

Just gets on top n stays there with no action

5/12/19 4:40 PM
1/12/05
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ClemenzasCannoli -
Bobby Lupo - The guy has been constantly overlooked. He beat Showtime Pettis down when he was supposed to be a welcome-to-the-UFC opponent. He beat RDA, Gomi, Nate Diaz, BJ Penn, J-Lau, Kawajiri, Josh Thompson, Bartimus, and Maynard (IMO). All via sheer will.

Nobody has so many quality wins on their record and gets such little respect.

Prejediced against Italians in this day and age.

Can you believe that? A Jew broad prejudice against Italians 

What’s the world coming to? 

5/14/19 1:42 PM
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5/14/19 3:16 PM
8/10/05
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Tough and awkward style, but not even close to underrated.
5/14/19 4:23 PM
8/8/18
Posts: 1481

No, fans just forget

5/14/19 4:46 PM
11/20/09
Posts: 40113

Anyone who can be a top fighter at their weight class for a long period of time such as Guida has, has EARNED my respect.   I don't care who they are, how they fight, fighting at this level for a long period of time is not common.

5/14/19 5:15 PM
9/22/16
Posts: 16026
*hops around*
*throws a shoulder to the face*
*hops around*

MMA
5/14/19 5:16 PM
6/23/10
Posts: 3216

He has the Jon Fitch syndrome of not being able to finish fights.   He does deserve more credit than he gets, but he's never been much more than a gatekeeper, albeit in the most stacked division of the UFC.   

5/14/19 6:07 PM
3/17/14
Posts: 1979

Nothing comes out

when they move their lips

just a bunch of gibberish

they forgot about clay

5/14/19 9:09 PM
2/17/03
Posts: 12705
Captain Canuck - 


This fight is exhibit A supporting my thesis that Clay Guida is exciting when getting his ass kicked.