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4/16/19 6:50 PM
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CM Punk is a goober. Probably gets subbed by girls 

4/16/19 7:19 PM
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4/17/19 7:57 AM
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JOB -

Stop hating on the guy for trying.

This. How many other WWE wrestlers have entered jiu jitsu tournaments? 

 

Or Hollywood stars? 

 

Its not many. He had a go and will only improve the more he does it. This isnt like the UFC opportunity he put himself out there. 

4/17/19 8:08 AM
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Ministry of Truth -
Bilge Water - 

The guy is training and competing, good for him.  I'm not gonna hate on a guy for trying to get better. That's a bitch move.


Training and competing is commendable. I concur.

But fighting in the UFC simply because it's your dream and you can use your name and sell your soul to take someone's place who better deserves it, is nothing more than utter shit.

There is nothing wrong with what CM Punk did.  He brought eyes to the sport and the cards he was on sold more ppv in part because of him thus getting more exposure for everyone involved.

 

Using your success in one career to bolster another is smart.  These are not the days of 7 events a year and super limited spots for fighters.  He didnt take anything from anyone.  

 

Most of the people here dont have the guts to do what he did.  He was humiliated and still send out a positive message,  and hasnt given up.

 

It doesnt make you a bad person to lose against overwhelming odds.

 

I am not a fan of the guy but that doesn't mean he didnt earn some respect for trying.

4/17/19 8:09 AM
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The Lion King -

CM Punk is a goober. Probably gets subbed by girls 

I want his wife to triangle me.

4/17/19 8:49 AM
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robbie380 - 
FingerorMoon -

Im just surprised he’s still that bad about BJJ. Been training for a LONG time at this point.

He was doing interviews 5+yrs ago that he’d been training a long time but never bothered grading and was ‘forever a white belt because I never stop learning’

 

 

 

Maybe he doesn't really train that much. 


I know guys who average two training sessions a week, but have been at it 5+ years. They're way better than CM Punk. And these are guys with full-time careers and kids, who started training later in life.

CM Punk has enviable time and resources, plus a pro wrestling background. It's really strange that he's not a better grappler than he has shown.

Non-improvement despite putting in great effort - That's every BJJ guy's nightmare. It would be very interesting to watch CM Punk's actual training sessions and see what is happening. Or not happening.
4/17/19 8:56 AM
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Ministry of Truth - 
Bilge Water - 

The guy is training and competing, good for him.  I'm not gonna hate on a guy for trying to get better. That's a bitch move.


Training and competing is commendable. I concur.

But fighting in the UFC simply because it's your dream and you can use your name and sell your soul to take someone's place who better deserves it, is nothing more than utter shit.

He didn't exactly just show up one night in the audience and walk in the cage to fight. Dana signed him-for a nice sum I might add. That is where the outrage should be. Not for him. It was Dana that gave us that dogshit and screwed other fighters of $$$$ and fights Can't blame the guy for reaching a goal

4/17/19 3:06 PM
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Ministry of Truth -
Gohan blanco - 
Ministry of Truth -
Bilge Water - 

The guy is training and competing, good for him.  I'm not gonna hate on a guy for trying to get better. That's a bitch move.


Training and competing is commendable. I concur.

But fighting in the UFC simply because it's your dream and you can use your name and sell your soul to take someone's place who better deserves it, is nothing more than utter shit.

That’s the ufcs fault dipshit.  If a company offers you a job you always wanted over people far more qualified than you, would you turn that down?  Blame the ufc, not punk


You're kidding, right?

Do you honestly think Phil had no responsibility when signing a contract when he knew he was completely untested and running the risk of having a catastrophic result (as we saw)?

They offered him a shit ton of money. Did he think he was going to lose? Of course. You're a lying sack of shit if you try to tell me you wouldn't take the same opportunity he did if you were in his shoes.

4/17/19 6:11 PM
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Ministry of Truth - All I can see Phil got from the UFC is some black eyes, wounded pride, and proof he doesn't belong in MMA let alone the UFC. If that somehow equates to a win in any way, I'm not sure what losing is.

You and I perhaps just look at things differently.

You look at Phil fighting in the UFC and the initial benefits of that being hurting someone else, having pride for performance, where as I look at it in terms of huge financial opportunity.

I don't think anyone was expecting Punk to be any good at all, I know I wasn't, were you?

Anyways, from my point of view I can only assume CM Punk's undisclosed contract was probably at minimum an easy million.

So, everything that you have pride in/about, are you going to now read this angle about huge pay and tell me with a straight face you would not even CONSIDER fighting in the UFC if given over 1 million dollars for ONE fight?
4/17/19 6:16 PM
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Happiness Bunny -

https://www.bjjee.com/articles/cm-punk-wins-bronze-competing-as-a-blue-belt-in-bjj/

 

Apparently there was only 3 people in his division including himself.

 

Nice participation medal punk.

Dude that's wrong

4/18/19 7:49 AM
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TequilaYuen - 
robbie380 - 
FingerorMoon -

Im just surprised he’s still that bad about BJJ. Been training for a LONG time at this point.

He was doing interviews 5+yrs ago that he’d been training a long time but never bothered grading and was ‘forever a white belt because I never stop learning’

 

 

 

Maybe he doesn't really train that much. 


I know guys who average two training sessions a week, but have been at it 5+ years. They're way better than CM Punk. And these are guys with full-time careers and kids, who started training later in life.

CM Punk has enviable time and resources, plus a pro wrestling background. It's really strange that he's not a better grappler than he has shown.

Non-improvement despite putting in great effort - That's every BJJ guy's nightmare. It would be very interesting to watch CM Punk's actual training sessions and see what is happening. Or not happening.

Before he fought in the UFC, somebody on the UG (I forget who) was talking about training with him and said that he couldn't think of a single thing he was good at. Said he was slow, weak, and very sloppy.

With all the time, effort, and access, it's incredible that he's not significantly better than he is.

Sean Patrick Flannery is a full time working actor (and OGer) and he's not only a BJJ blackbelt, but he's a good one.

How is it possible that Punk hasn't progressed?
4/18/19 2:34 PM
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Bobby Lupo - 
TequilaYuen - 
robbie380 - 
FingerorMoon -

Im just surprised he’s still that bad about BJJ. Been training for a LONG time at this point.

He was doing interviews 5+yrs ago that he’d been training a long time but never bothered grading and was ‘forever a white belt because I never stop learning’

 

 

 

Maybe he doesn't really train that much. 


I know guys who average two training sessions a week, but have been at it 5+ years. They're way better than CM Punk. And these are guys with full-time careers and kids, who started training later in life.

CM Punk has enviable time and resources, plus a pro wrestling background. It's really strange that he's not a better grappler than he has shown.

Non-improvement despite putting in great effort - That's every BJJ guy's nightmare. It would be very interesting to watch CM Punk's actual training sessions and see what is happening. Or not happening.

Before he fought in the UFC, somebody on the UG (I forget who) was talking about training with him and said that he couldn't think of a single thing he was good at. Said he was slow, weak, and very sloppy.

With all the time, effort, and access, it's incredible that he's not significantly better than he is.

Sean Patrick Flannery is a full time working actor (and OGer) and he's not only a BJJ blackbelt, but he's a good one.

How is it possible that Punk hasn't progressed?

Yeah, the only explanation for his low-level ability in BJJ after training over many years (other than it being a lie), is that he  was just dabbling in it. A few months, followed by long, long inactivity.

If anyone could have used the gains/recovery steriods help with, it's him. The slow, weak, sloppiness could have improved significantly (admittedly not enough to be a true UFC threat). Basically we got to see how average Joe, dabbling in MMA\BJJ and drug free would do in the UFC. 

4/18/19 2:39 PM
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MayorPirkle - 
Ministry of Truth -
Gohan blanco - 
Ministry of Truth -
Bilge Water - 

The guy is training and competing, good for him.  I'm not gonna hate on a guy for trying to get better. That's a bitch move.


Training and competing is commendable. I concur.

But fighting in the UFC simply because it's your dream and you can use your name and sell your soul to take someone's place who better deserves it, is nothing more than utter shit.

That’s the ufcs fault dipshit.  If a company offers you a job you always wanted over people far more qualified than you, would you turn that down?  Blame the ufc, not punk


You're kidding, right?

Do you honestly think Phil had no responsibility when signing a contract when he knew he was completely untested and running the risk of having a catastrophic result (as we saw)?

They offered him a shit ton of money. Did he think he was going to lose? Of course. You're a lying sack of shit if you try to tell me you wouldn't take the same opportunity he did if you were in his shoes.


I honestly wouldn't. I'm sure I'm not alone, either. I'm financially secure, and my name and my family name means more to me than the desire to pretend to belong somewhere I do not, and to make a fool of myself.

I see it as analogous to this: I'm a BJJ purple belt and would not enter a competitive BJJ black belt tournament, not only because I roll with black belts and have great respect for their skills and experience, but also because I know if I enter someone who deserves it more than I do would lose out on an opportunity that I don't even deserve.

If martial arts have taught me nothing else, it's know my own place and abilities. In other words, if I want to respectfully compete as a martial artist against other martial artists, I would happily enter a purple belt BJJ tournament instead. ;)
4/18/19 2:50 PM
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Bobby Lupo -
TequilaYuen - 
robbie380 - 
FingerorMoon -

Im just surprised he’s still that bad about BJJ. Been training for a LONG time at this point.

He was doing interviews 5+yrs ago that he’d been training a long time but never bothered grading and was ‘forever a white belt because I never stop learning’

 

 

 

Maybe he doesn't really train that much. 


I know guys who average two training sessions a week, but have been at it 5+ years. They're way better than CM Punk. And these are guys with full-time careers and kids, who started training later in life.

CM Punk has enviable time and resources, plus a pro wrestling background. It's really strange that he's not a better grappler than he has shown.

Non-improvement despite putting in great effort - That's every BJJ guy's nightmare. It would be very interesting to watch CM Punk's actual training sessions and see what is happening. Or not happening.

Before he fought in the UFC, somebody on the UG (I forget who) was talking about training with him and said that he couldn't think of a single thing he was good at. Said he was slow, weak, and very sloppy.

With all the time, effort, and access, it's incredible that he's not significantly better than he is.

Sean Patrick Flannery is a full time working actor (and OGer) and he's not only a BJJ blackbelt, but he's a good one.

How is it possible that Punk hasn't progressed?

How is it possible? 

 

He's just doesn't have any athetic ability. 

4/18/19 3:01 PM
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The sad part is he has trained for years under high level coaches and the 2 guys who placed above him at the tournament were probably out of shape 40 year old dads with full time jobs who train BJJ a couple times per week as a hobby 

4/18/19 3:02 PM
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I’m not trying to belittle and internet bully punk either.

Just saying it’s almost weird how bad he is. 

Should stick to WWE

4/19/19 9:39 AM
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4/19/19 9:57 AM
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The Lion King -

CM Punk is a goober. Probably gets subbed by girls 

I trained with him a little bit a couple months before his first fight in the ufc. 

 

He wasnt a goober and I doubt he would’ve been getting subbed by girls. Really nice guy. I didn’t know who he was and he introduced himself as Phil. I just thought he was an ok whitebelt names Phil who was into hockey. He’s a Hawks fan. 

 

His jiujitsu wasn’t bad, but he was definitely a whitebelt. Pretty strong and a stubborn and tough guy. A battler. Not a tonne in his tool box though. He nailed me with a sweep in the gi that all those guys did well down there. I got caught with that sweep a few times my first day or two. 

 

He was at all their practices and in there getting his work in with Roufus’s fight team. There’s some beasts in that room I’m not sure I ever saw him back down. He would bite bite down and scrap. He’d pick himself up after every round and be there in the next round. A real hard worker. 

 

Did he deserve to get a shot shot in the ufc?  No, probably not. His fame got him there and he stepped up and tried. No shame in that. I’m glad he’s still training, learning and competing.

 

He’s not a goober. He’s a good guy. 

4/19/19 10:29 AM
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ufc98newb - 
Bobby Lupo -
TequilaYuen - 
robbie380 - 
FingerorMoon -

Im just surprised he’s still that bad about BJJ. Been training for a LONG time at this point.

He was doing interviews 5+yrs ago that he’d been training a long time but never bothered grading and was ‘forever a white belt because I never stop learning’

 

 

 

Maybe he doesn't really train that much. 


I know guys who average two training sessions a week, but have been at it 5+ years. They're way better than CM Punk. And these are guys with full-time careers and kids, who started training later in life.

CM Punk has enviable time and resources, plus a pro wrestling background. It's really strange that he's not a better grappler than he has shown.

Non-improvement despite putting in great effort - That's every BJJ guy's nightmare. It would be very interesting to watch CM Punk's actual training sessions and see what is happening. Or not happening.

Before he fought in the UFC, somebody on the UG (I forget who) was talking about training with him and said that he couldn't think of a single thing he was good at. Said he was slow, weak, and very sloppy.

With all the time, effort, and access, it's incredible that he's not significantly better than he is.

Sean Patrick Flannery is a full time working actor (and OGer) and he's not only a BJJ blackbelt, but he's a good one.

How is it possible that Punk hasn't progressed?

How is it possible? 

 

He's just doesn't have any athetic ability. 


He's a really smart guy. He's tough as fuck. He worked his ass off to become an elite pro wrestler. He works his ass off when it comes to MMA and grappling, but he's losing to 40-year-old dads who picked up BJJ 2x a week to lose weight. He's been training for years, and full time for stretches. It's just odd.

Sometimes hard work doesn't matter.
4/19/19 10:50 AM
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lol he hasn't been training bjj full time is the issue. Remember he has trained off and on while being a pro wrestler. And while being a pro wrestler he was on the road 300+ days a year and dealing w a shit ton of injuries. So no real prolonged rest days and no long term training protocols. So yes it makes sense that guys that can train CONSISTENT all the time can beat him in a tournament. Add in he was trying to do mma so he had to try to train in all aspects and not be a damn specialist.

I swear its hilarious that so many divas on this forum (mainly white and blue belts) want to bitch and whine about celebrities who never "put it on the line but train" and when we have one that does you want to tear him down like teenage girls on social media. Its never a winning situation lol.
4/20/19 12:54 PM
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Hunter V - lol he hasn't been training bjj full time is the issue. Remember he has trained off and on while being a pro wrestler. And while being a pro wrestler he was on the road 300+ days a year and dealing w a shit ton of injuries. So no real prolonged rest days and no long term training protocols. So yes it makes sense that guys that can train CONSISTENT all the time can beat him in a tournament. Add in he was trying to do mma so he had to try to train in all aspects and not be a damn specialist.

I swear its hilarious that so many divas on this forum (mainly white and blue belts) want to bitch and whine about celebrities who never "put it on the line but train" and when we have one that does you want to tear him down like teenage girls on social media. Its never a winning situation lol.

dude most people who compete at this level of competition dont train full time. the best of highest level maybe train every day for a couple hours after they get off work. very few of them are full time fighters that can somehow sustain there life that way. especially for BJJ...MMA maybe because you can forseeably make some money doing it, get sponsers. BJJ is devoid of that. CM punk has money to do as much BJJ as he wants, if he isnt doing well its because he isnt putting in the hours.

He could concievably buy rufusport, change nothing but recieving a % and train more than anyone could imagine, because he has the resources to do it. he doesnt do anything like that because then it would look like he was taking things more seriously, only for the masses to see him fail again because he hit the ceiling for himself and simply isnt that good.

4/20/19 5:19 PM
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Good on punk for trying