Member Since: 7/2/09
The Lion King -
If you look at the true definition of p4p then Conor is without a doubt the GOAT.
3. Anderson Silva
4. Jon Jones (will move up if he fights HW)
6. BJ Penn
7. Jose Aldo
8. Mighty Mouse
9. Randy Couture
10. Dan Henderson
Honorable mentions: Matt Hughes, Henry Cejudo, DC, Nogueira, Khabib, Frankie Edgar, Max Holloway, Sakuraba
According to Chael this is "skill independent of weight". So if you took a 205lb version of MM's skills and matched it up against Jones, who wins?... and vice versa, if you took Jones down to 125lb and matched him with MM.
So according to the definition, I don't know how you split hairs about most talent. And if we're sticking to the "true definition", maybe we should start calling it "most talented guy" instead of GOAT.
That top 5 is a supreme amount of talent. No one argues against Conor's striking talent and decent ground skills. If we're talking talent, I don't know how to separate that top 5. They're all #1 as far as I'm concerned, based on talent.
But based on talent AND wins, lack of steroids, mentality/personality, in that order... my list is:
2. Anderson and Jones
Please note that Conor would be a clear #2 if he was more active and racked up a few more wins. Also note that I wouldn't be able to distinguish between GSP, Anderson and Jones if the latter two had avoided steroids.
Khabib could end up being the ultimate #1 if he can keep winning. I hate to say it though, I think he's done because of his pops. Saying that's a shitty situation is a disrespectful understatement, but you get me.
Edit half a day later: just realized Chael's definition was P4P, not GOAT. Yeah well I'm a retard. Shit I said was still true.