UnderGround Forums Dana sits Conor down

15 days ago
8/17/08
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chilz -
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Yeah, I kind of feel like this was Dana’s ultimate fuck you to Conor for “breaking the man code”. Also, the UFC just announced the Yan vs. Sterling title fight for Dec 12th completely out of the blue, when it was so uncertain in the days leading up.

I want to see Conor fight! I’d rather see him fight Ferguson, but I was pumped to hear that they were trying to make the fight with Poirier happen before the end of the year.

You gotta wonder what Dana’s end game is in all of this. Is it an FU, or is he trying to hold off to have Conor fight when fans in attendance are allowed back? 

the latter.  Conor is expensive.  By Jan 23rd better chance of having Gate revenue.

I agree with your sentiment here but they also weren't about to pay Amanda fucking Nunes ppv points for a Conor card. They would be shelling her a lot of undeserved cash.

that too.

15 days ago
8/17/08
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ufc98newb -
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The UFC needs Conor more than he needs them. 

Really dude? You are fucked if thats what you think.

UFC has a whole bunch of new stars on the rise.

Conner is yesterdays news. He will poke his head up here & there but he had his time & blew it with all the outside of the cage crap he was doing & refusing to defend his titles.

Sure, he was the first to get 2 belts but thats common now. He is a 2 division non defending champ & hasn't fought in 12 months.

On a personel note, he is still with his childhood sweet heart. Has 2 kids & has only now gotten engaged?  Lazy ass prick....

Who? And if those, who hasnt had a significant amount of fame rubbed off by Conor? 

The UFC cannot make the kind of money they need to without him at this point.  

UFC doesnt need conor.  with the new espn deal most UFC revenue is guaranteed now.

as I said years ago.  Time is on UFC's side... every moment that goes by.... ever new deal UFC signs.... fighters leverage decreases.

UFC dont give a fuck about conor and they show it.  Jon Jones, Henry Cejudo and whoever else can retire and UFC just moves on without giving a single fuck.

 

that attitude will only go so far. the people see through it if it goes too far and all the fighters leave for bellator. 

you mean like taking likeness rights in perpetuity?  sponsorship?  etc...  at this point Dana could institute pre monachta (ie: he gets to sleep with the fighters wives) and they'd still wont go anywhere. 

15 days ago
4/19/10
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Or of course... Conor angled himself a fight (which is what he was obviously after).

15 days ago
4/11/10
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64FordF100 -
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Maybe Clay Guida is available for December. Exhibition of course, because he doesn't want it to count when he loses.


Dennis Siver rematch

15 days ago
5/5/13
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15 days ago
10/3/11
Posts: 1058
omnigath -
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The UFC needs Conor more than he needs them. 

Really dude? You are fucked if thats what you think.

UFC has a whole bunch of new stars on the rise.

Conner is yesterdays news. He will poke his head up here & there but he had his time & blew it with all the outside of the cage crap he was doing & refusing to defend his titles.

Sure, he was the first to get 2 belts but thats common now. He is a 2 division non defending champ & hasn't fought in 12 months.

On a personel note, he is still with his childhood sweet heart. Has 2 kids & has only now gotten engaged?  Lazy ass prick....

Agreed mcnugget has peaked and fucked up potential legacy like that other waste of human life Jones

If they couldn't fight they'd be on the corner dealing whatever.

Trashhh humans 

15 days ago
1/12/10
Posts: 441
Don J - 
Charliemma - 

Conor might just not want to be training and dieting over xmas. 

 

The UFC might want to remember that Conor has the money that no other fighter they have had to fight them legally. And if the proposed bill for the  Ali Act is extened to MMA ( which is will one day), the UFC are fucked.  


You dont actually believe that do you?

Compared to the UFC, Conor's money is not threatening at all. Also, do you really think Conor would spend HIS money to fight the UFC? He's to money-minded to even consider that. He'll bitch and moan and if he wants to fight he will do it on UFC's terms.

He will put out fake promos about boxing. But he is under contract to Dana and the UFC. And if he wants to fight a legal battle, UFC will gladly go thru the motions and spend millions of dollars against him just to prove a point.

I think it's more that, for 99% of fighters, their sole income stream is fighting. Whereas McGregor now has enough passive income that he cannot be hardball-forced into fighting if he doesn't want to. They use freezeouts as leverage but that won't apply here.
Edited: 15 days ago
2/20/20
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64FordF100 -
Dead President - Maybe Clay Guida is available for December. Exhibition of course, because he doesn't want it to count when he loses.
 

Dennis Siver rematch

Lol

15 days ago
6/2/04
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ufc98newb - 
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The UFC needs Conor more than he needs them. 

Really dude? You are fucked if thats what you think.

UFC has a whole bunch of new stars on the rise.

Conner is yesterdays news. He will poke his head up here & there but he had his time & blew it with all the outside of the cage crap he was doing & refusing to defend his titles.

Sure, he was the first to get 2 belts but thats common now. He is a 2 division non defending champ & hasn't fought in 12 months.

On a personel note, he is still with his childhood sweet heart. Has 2 kids & has only now gotten engaged?  Lazy ass prick....

Who? And if those, who hasnt had a significant amount of fame rubbed off by Conor? 

The UFC cannot make the kind of money they need to without him at this point.  

UFC doesnt need conor.  with the new espn deal most UFC revenue is guaranteed now.

as I said years ago.  Time is on UFC's side... every moment that goes by.... ever new deal UFC signs.... fighters leverage decreases.

UFC dont give a fuck about conor and they show it.  Jon Jones, Henry Cejudo and whoever else can retire and UFC just moves on without giving a single fuck.

 

that attitude will only go so far. the people see through it if it goes too far and all the fighters leave for bellator. 


Except the UFC has been doing business this way forever, and they're not slowing down.

15 days ago
6/2/04
Posts: 9593
Glory Kickboxing - 
Don J - 
Charliemma - 

Conor might just not want to be training and dieting over xmas. 

 

The UFC might want to remember that Conor has the money that no other fighter they have had to fight them legally. And if the proposed bill for the  Ali Act is extened to MMA ( which is will one day), the UFC are fucked.  


You dont actually believe that do you?

Compared to the UFC, Conor's money is not threatening at all. Also, do you really think Conor would spend HIS money to fight the UFC? He's to money-minded to even consider that. He'll bitch and moan and if he wants to fight he will do it on UFC's terms.

He will put out fake promos about boxing. But he is under contract to Dana and the UFC. And if he wants to fight a legal battle, UFC will gladly go thru the motions and spend millions of dollars against him just to prove a point.

I think it's more that, for 99% of fighters, their sole income stream is fighting. Whereas McGregor now has enough passive income that he cannot be hardball-forced into fighting if he doesn't want to. They use freezeouts as leverage but that won't apply here.

Sure...and that's why Conor fights once a year. The UFC really, really likes Conor. He's great for business...but they do just fine without him. As Dana said, they have a schedule. They're doing fights every week, have plans for the rest of the year, and aren't going to move fights involving champions who are already training.

They know what they're getting with Conor, they've been in the Conor business for long enough to know that he's never going to be a guy that fights multiple times a year, defends a belt if he wins one, and is flexible. He was that guy earlier in his career, and they all made money together.

Now Conor is the guy who talks shit all year, to keep his "fuck you, I'm the show!" brand going, but he's a smart guy. He knows the UFC doesn't need him. Usman vs Masvidal did more buys than Conor vs Cowboy. We're no longer living in a world where Conor is breaking UFC PPV records, and the next biggest show of the year does 450K buys. Jones did 650K when fighting Anthony Smith. Put Jones in with someone popular, or any HWT and he does a bunch more.

The UFC will make most of their money with ESPN, will make lots with their other stars, and if Conor fights, they'll have a really good night...but that's it. He's not making or breaking a year for them...shit, he might not even make or break a quarter for them.

15 days ago
6/14/12
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HillboFrateTrane -

The UFC needs Conor more than he needs them. 

Lol

15 days ago
10/11/18
Posts: 2403
ufc98newb - 
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HillboFrateTrane -
omnigath -
HillboFrateTrane -

The UFC needs Conor more than he needs them. 

Really dude? You are fucked if thats what you think.

UFC has a whole bunch of new stars on the rise.

Conner is yesterdays news. He will poke his head up here & there but he had his time & blew it with all the outside of the cage crap he was doing & refusing to defend his titles.

Sure, he was the first to get 2 belts but thats common now. He is a 2 division non defending champ & hasn't fought in 12 months.

On a personel note, he is still with his childhood sweet heart. Has 2 kids & has only now gotten engaged?  Lazy ass prick....

Who? And if those, who hasnt had a significant amount of fame rubbed off by Conor? 

The UFC cannot make the kind of money they need to without him at this point.  

UFC doesnt need conor.  with the new espn deal most UFC revenue is guaranteed now.

as I said years ago.  Time is on UFC's side... every moment that goes by.... ever new deal UFC signs.... fighters leverage decreases.

UFC dont give a fuck about conor and they show it.  Jon Jones, Henry Cejudo and whoever else can retire and UFC just moves on without giving a single fuck.

 

that attitude will only go so far. the people see through it if it goes too far and all the fighters leave for bellator. 


No way are in hell are Bellator in a position to pay Conor what he thinks he's worth. He needs the UFC.

15 days ago
10/11/18
Posts: 2404
Charliemma - 

Conor might just not want to be training and dieting over xmas. 

 

The UFC might want to remember that Conor has the money that no other fighter they have had to fight them legally. And if the proposed bill for the  Ali Act is extened to MMA ( which is will one day), the UFC are fucked.  


Yes how dare this poor non practicing Catholic train and diet [ie work like everybody else has to] over Christmas. Working through Christmas is only for the peasants.
14 days ago
3/14/02
Posts: 1049

There's loads of fighter that would take a Conor fight on a week's notice, let alone 6 weeks notice.

 

Why does it take the UFC 3 months to make a Conor fight???

 

I know there are problems with Covid in some countries. Why can't they sort it out for Fight Island? 

Just add him to one of the cards and tell someone they are now the co-main event or if that is unfair on 2 fighters. Just make Conor vs Whoever not the "official main event" or "co-main event". I'm sure Conor will understand as he is wanting a fight arranged slightly ahead of schedule. Or maybe he won't, maybe that's part of the problem? Time Scheduling shouldnt be a problem? Maybe it has to be a three rounder? who cares, those fights are often better anyway.

Apparently Chimaev can get a fight made sooner !?!?!

Weidman accepts his call out for January and he says "Why so long?"

It sounds very much like Dana is perhaps trying to puncish Conor some, I understand that, but this is cutting off his nose to spite his face. Also he or his oppponent  may well get injured before January and the fight may be off. I know this is true for any fight the UFC may schedule but they've done other things to accomodate the major stars.

It feels like the fans are missing out here. He was in great shape LAST January against Cowboy and it seems a waste of time and talent to make him sit out that long. Maybe this indeed all a power play? The UFC want Conor to conform and fight who they select at a time of their choosing.

I wonder if thats part of the reason he wants to box: train and get in shape and sign a fight on short notice ala Floyd Mayweather Undercard doesnt matter too much compared to UFC.

Makes me wonder how many fights some of these guys sign to fight. And why some fighters can't fight some lesser fighters to get out their contract. Maybe thats why MVP fights so many baristas, builders and bartenders, perhaps he has a long contract and has a lot of bodies to get through.

 

 

 

 

 

14 days ago
11/23/07
Posts: 884
HillboFrateTrane -

The UFC needs Conor more than he needs them. 

hahahahahahaha

13 days ago
3/22/16
Posts: 1593
Glory Kickboxing - 
Don J - 
Charliemma - 

Conor might just not want to be training and dieting over xmas. 

 

The UFC might want to remember that Conor has the money that no other fighter they have had to fight them legally. And if the proposed bill for the  Ali Act is extened to MMA ( which is will one day), the UFC are fucked.  


You dont actually believe that do you?

Compared to the UFC, Conor's money is not threatening at all. Also, do you really think Conor would spend HIS money to fight the UFC? He's to money-minded to even consider that. He'll bitch and moan and if he wants to fight he will do it on UFC's terms.

He will put out fake promos about boxing. But he is under contract to Dana and the UFC. And if he wants to fight a legal battle, UFC will gladly go thru the motions and spend millions of dollars against him just to prove a point.

I think it's more that, for 99% of fighters, their sole income stream is fighting. Whereas McGregor now has enough passive income that he cannot be hardball-forced into fighting if he doesn't want to. They use freezeouts as leverage but that won't apply here.

Dana came out quick and shit canned the whole Dallas Cowboy stadium idea.

This is gonna be in Vegas at the performance center. Like Dana said, either Conor accepts or doesnt. He said both Conor and Dustin verbally accepted it. Now its just a matter of contracts signed for the fight
13 days ago
11/1/19
Posts: 4946
HillboFrateTrane -

The UFC needs Conor more than he needs them. 

Conor could make a bunch of money in boxing as well. 

13 days ago
12/9/13
Posts: 27995

conor get a % of ticket sales

13 days ago
3/22/16
Posts: 1594
JThomasufc91 - 
HillboFrateTrane -

The UFC needs Conor more than he needs them. 

Conor could make a bunch of money in boxing as well. 


Except he needs the UFC to sign off on him boxing. Conor's best bet to Box again is to play nice with Dana and fight Dustin when and where he is asked if he wants any chance at Boxing again. Remmeber, Conor is on a multi-fight contract with the UFC. Despite what he says he wants to do, he needs UFCs permission
13 days ago
7/10/02
Posts: 25077

Conor shouldn't be calling shots, but asking for Nov or Dec wasn't that big of a demand, come on now.

13 days ago
3/6/07
Posts: 6226
Don J - So UFC offered COnor a fight vs Dustin for January. Conor publicly said he accepted the fight but ONLY if it was in Nov or December (probably wants all his earnings in a 12 month period for a forbes list or some BS)

So what does Dana do to respond. Tells Conor the fight is offered for January only. "It's a yes or no answer"

Conor dont call no shots mates.

https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/30114977/conor-mcgregor-offered-dustin-poirier-fight-only-jan-23

He does not call the shots?????!!!!

 

he just made the ufc create an event that was never scheduled.  
 

 

silly Trumpers. 

13 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 40292
Don J -
Glory Kickboxing - 
Don J - 
Charliemma - 

Conor might just not want to be training and dieting over xmas. 

 

The UFC might want to remember that Conor has the money that no other fighter they have had to fight them legally. And if the proposed bill for the  Ali Act is extened to MMA ( which is will one day), the UFC are fucked.  


You dont actually believe that do you?

Compared to the UFC, Conor's money is not threatening at all. Also, do you really think Conor would spend HIS money to fight the UFC? He's to money-minded to even consider that. He'll bitch and moan and if he wants to fight he will do it on UFC's terms.

He will put out fake promos about boxing. But he is under contract to Dana and the UFC. And if he wants to fight a legal battle, UFC will gladly go thru the motions and spend millions of dollars against him just to prove a point.

I think it's more that, for 99% of fighters, their sole income stream is fighting. Whereas McGregor now has enough passive income that he cannot be hardball-forced into fighting if he doesn't want to. They use freezeouts as leverage but that won't apply here.

Dana came out quick and shit canned the whole Dallas Cowboy stadium idea.

This is gonna be in Vegas at the performance center. Like Dana said, either Conor accepts or doesnt. He said both Conor and Dustin verbally accepted it. Now its just a matter of contracts signed for the fight

Kavanagh is already out there talking about the fight being at 170 lbs. We will see if that happens.

So far is been Conor saying pac fight in Abu Dhabi, charity event with Dustin, and then a fight this year and none of that shit has happened. Don't think Cowboy Stadium will happen either, not in Jan.

I'm sure Dana will let him make the fight at WW. God forbid Conor have to compete in the weight he wants a title shot at.

13 days ago
3/22/16
Posts: 1597
jkd4200 - 
Don J - So UFC offered COnor a fight vs Dustin for January. Conor publicly said he accepted the fight but ONLY if it was in Nov or December (probably wants all his earnings in a 12 month period for a forbes list or some BS)

So what does Dana do to respond. Tells Conor the fight is offered for January only. "It's a yes or no answer"

Conor dont call no shots mates.

https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/30114977/conor-mcgregor-offered-dustin-poirier-fight-only-jan-23

He does not call the shots?????!!!!

 

he just made the ufc create an event that was never scheduled.  
 

 

silly Trumpers. 


Scheduling...how does it work?

UFC is already booked thru December with December already having 2 title fights on it. With Conor not wanting to share UFC PPV points with anyone it was only logical to offer him the next available PPV in January(which UFC always has) and put no other title fights on it. If Conor didnt take it, UFC would just fill that same date up with other fights.
UFC doesnt stop for Conor anymore. He tried to flex and say ONLY if its in December or Novemer. After Dana said no, Conor said ok January is ok, BUT only if in Cowboy stadium. Dana already said no to that also. Dana and UFC are in control here.
Edited: 13 days ago
1/1/01
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ufc98newb -
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HillboFrateTrane -

The UFC needs Conor more than he needs them. 

Really dude? You are fucked if thats what you think.

UFC has a whole bunch of new stars on the rise.

Conner is yesterdays news. He will poke his head up here & there but he had his time & blew it with all the outside of the cage crap he was doing & refusing to defend his titles.

Sure, he was the first to get 2 belts but thats common now. He is a 2 division non defending champ & hasn't fought in 12 months.

On a personel note, he is still with his childhood sweet heart. Has 2 kids & has only now gotten engaged?  Lazy ass prick....

Who? And if those, who hasnt had a significant amount of fame rubbed off by Conor? 

The UFC cannot make the kind of money they need to without him at this point.  

UFC doesnt need conor.  with the new espn deal most UFC revenue is guaranteed now.

as I said years ago.  Time is on UFC's side... every moment that goes by.... ever new deal UFC signs.... fighters leverage decreases.

UFC dont give a fuck about conor and they show it.  Jon Jones, Henry Cejudo and whoever else can retire and UFC just moves on without giving a single fuck.

 

that attitude will only go so far. the people see through it if it goes too far and all the fighters leave for bellator. 

Lol at all the fighters leaving for Bellator.

I'm sure Viacom will want to spend the money to do that and fighters will want to fight in front of 3,000 fans in Thackerville, Oklahoma while 100,000 people watch them compete live on CBS SN. Then they can enjoy having 20k twitter followers like Patricio Pitbull until Viacom decides they are tired of losing more money than late 90's WCW.

13 days ago
11/24/10
Posts: 862
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Maybe Clay Guida is available for December. Exhibition of course, because he doesn't want it to count when he loses.


Dennis Siver rematch