UnderGround Forums Elias Cepeda YAHOO Article

12/18/19 3:09 PM
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First of to all the Cepeda haters, the guy writes for Yahoo, while you inhabit an online message board. So spare everyone the tiresome hate.

Second of all, bravo to Cepeda for going where 99% of MMA writers fear to thread. Cepeda decries the lack of acknowledgement for the toughness of Kamaru Usman as opposed to the mountain of praise heaped on Colby Covington:

"It's also tough, especially in that context, to be that black man and hear the crowd chant your opponent's name as you fight him -- the same fighter who has called you "boy," and who said that the only way your family has served the United States has been by serving prison sentences. It's also tough hearing the crowd chant "USA! USA!" for your opponent even though you're an American as he is, you just have darker skin."

Whoa! Major props to Cepeda for going there and maybe that's why his article was not posted on the UG? But think about it. What difference really is what Covington did to Usman than how say Jackie Robinson was treated when he first entered baseball? Robinson was derogatorily called 'boy' then just like Usman was, and told to go back to where he belonged just like Covington also did. Back in the day, Covington would probably be one of the players telling the manager he would not play alongside a black man.

Cepeda continues:

"Another troubling narrative that seems to becoming conventional wisdom is that Usman's victory was simply a matter of his superior physical power overtaking Covington's game toughness. The narrative of the powerful and athletic black athlete overwhelming the hardworking and plucky white athlete is nothing new, and advancing it here is lazy at best."

 

Bravo Elias! The true power of a writer is forcing those who need it to be confronted with the truth.

In my opinion, this is the best article Cepeda has ever written.

 

Don't Talk About Colby Covington's Toughness Without Talking About Kamaru Usman First

12/18/19 3:11 PM
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"Bravo Elias! The true power of a writer is forcing those who need it to be confronted with the truth."

Sorry, Elias does not write the truth.  He writes very slanted opinions, nothing more.

He is a hack.

12/18/19 3:11 PM
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Meh.  We are reaching here. 

12/18/19 3:30 PM
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Why does Cepeda see everything through a racial prism?

12/18/19 3:49 PM
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stainlesssteel - 

First of to all the Cepeda haters, the guy writes for Yahoo, while you inhabit an online message board. So spare everyone the tiresome hate.

Second of all, bravo to Cepeda for going where 99% of MMA writers fear to thread. Cepeda decries the lack of acknowledgement for the toughness of Kamaru Usman as opposed to the mountain of praise heaped on Colby Covington:

"It's also tough, especially in that context, to be that black man and hear the crowd chant your opponent's name as you fight him -- the same fighter who has called you "boy," and who said that the only way your family has served the United States has been by serving prison sentences. It's also tough hearing the crowd chant "USA! USA!" for your opponent even though you're an American as he is, you just have darker skin."

Whoa! Major props to Cepeda for going there and maybe that's why his article was not posted on the UG? But think about it. What difference really is what Covington did to Usman than how say Jackie Robinson was treated when he first entered baseball? Robinson was derogatorily called 'boy' then just like Usman was, and told to go back to where he belonged just like Covington also did. Back in the day, Covington would probably be one of the players telling the manager he would not play alongside a black man.

Cepeda continues:

"Another troubling narrative that seems to becoming conventional wisdom is that Usman's victory was simply a matter of his superior physical power overtaking Covington's game toughness. The narrative of the powerful and athletic black athlete overwhelming the hardworking and plucky white athlete is nothing new, and advancing it here is lazy at best."

 

Bravo Elias! The true power of a writer is forcing those who need it to be confronted with the truth.

In my opinion, this is the best article Cepeda has ever written.

 

Don't Talk About Colby Covington's Toughness Without Talking About Kamaru Usman First


"What difference really is what Covington did to Usman than how say Jackie Robinson was treated when he first entered baseball? "

Sincere question, are you that much of a simpleton?

Can you not distinguish between an entertainer's schtick and true racism?

12/18/19 3:56 PM
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Your first sentence in your post tells everything. A race baiting POS, write for a race baiting website. Perfect fit for a race baiting POS like the OP to post...

12/18/19 4:01 PM
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What a piece of shit lol

12/18/19 4:08 PM
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StrikingMMA - Why does Cepeda see everything through a racial prism?

Because we are not yet a color blind society, and no one else in the MMA space is talking about it.

12/18/19 4:16 PM
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StrikingMMA - Why does Cepeda see everything through a racial prism?

Because we are not yet a color blind society, and no one else in the MMA space is talking about it.

Jonathan Snowden from Bleacher Report in 2012:
 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1427431-riots-racists-and-more-the-worst-of-mma-fandom



Here's a 2013 article from VICE, written by Josh Rosenblatt, featuring Rashad Evans on racism in MMA:

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/4wqm8p/rashad-evans-and-racism

 


Mayweather on racism in combat sports in 2016 (cites McGregor and Rousey):

https://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-and-ronda-rousey-proof-racism-exists-in-combat-sports-010516

 


Tyron Woodley on racism in MMA in 2017:

https://www.mmaweekly.com/tyron-woodley-explains-his-comments-about-racism-in-mma-video
 


A 2018 BBC article on racim and homophobia sparked by Colby Covington's antics:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/372fc502-721c-4270-906f-6ff790a6f971

 

 

12/18/19 4:19 PM
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Someone needs to invent a time machine,  kidnap Elias and toss him a couple hundred yrs back, leave him there a few months and bring him back.

Just for the Yahoo article. 

 

 

12/18/19 4:22 PM
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 TTT

12/18/19 4:34 PM
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Kamaru took some heavy shots.  I think it's not racially motivated to point out Covington's exceptional toughness in this fight. I dont think it's often fighters fight, and win multiple rounds after receiving a broken jaw.  Cant that be the reason he is being praised, instead of his skin color?  Isnt assuming everyone commenting on Covington's toughness is doing so because he's white just as bad as being a racist?  

 

As always, I know elias as a person and respect him. Good dude, heart in the right place

12/18/19 4:40 PM
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Usman is the champion so it should go without saying.  Often when someone loses fans offer words of encouragement, heaven forbid!  I feel like it goes without saying that the champ is great.  If fans have good things to say about the loser, it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to assume that the guy who beat him is better.  And having said all that... Fuck off, you don't get to control my speech 

12/18/19 4:51 PM
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mdrndaysamurai -

Kamaru took some heavy shots.  I think it's not racially motivated to point out Covington's exceptional toughness in this fight. I dont think it's often fighters fight, and win multiple rounds after receiving a broken jaw.  Cant that be the reason he is being praised, instead of his skin color?  Isnt assuming everyone commenting on Covington's toughness is doing so because he's white just as bad as being a racist?  

 

As always, I know elias as a person and respect him. Good dude, heart in the right place

Legit points and appreciate the inside info. Not speaking for Cepeda, but if you look at the title of the article it explains his criticism. That is is unfair to heap praise on Covington for fighting tough WITHOUT ALSO INCLUDING PRAISE FOR USMAN'S TOUGHNESS!

No one including Cepeda, denies that fighting with a broken jaw requires a mental fortitude most of us can only dream about. So also as Cepeda points out is fighting a man who has belittled your family and heritage, who also has the President's sons in attendance in the hopes of celebrating your loss.

After the fight, there were hundreds of articles about the tough SOB fighting on a broken jaw. I think Cepeda was just trying to even out the field a bit and reminding everyone that Kamaru Usman may not have suffered a broken jaw, but his mental strength was just as deserving as Colby Covington.

12/18/19 4:54 PM
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Kirik -
StrikingMMA - Why does Cepeda see everything through a racial prism?

Because we are not yet a color blind society, and no one else in the MMA space is talking about it.

Jonathan Snowden from Bleacher Report in 2012:
 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1427431-riots-racists-and-more-the-worst-of-mma-fandom



Here's a 2013 article from VICE, written by Josh Rosenblatt, featuring Rashad Evans on racism in MMA:

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/4wqm8p/rashad-evans-and-racism

 


Mayweather on racism in combat sports in 2016 (cites McGregor and Rousey):

https://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-and-ronda-rousey-proof-racism-exists-in-combat-sports-010516

 


Tyron Woodley on racism in MMA in 2017:

https://www.mmaweekly.com/tyron-woodley-explains-his-comments-about-racism-in-mma-video
 


A 2018 BBC article on racim and homophobia sparked by Colby Covington's antics:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/372fc502-721c-4270-906f-6ff790a6f971

 

 


That's five articles in seven years. If you find mention of race is MMA every year or two overwhelming, I am a little at a loss for words to be honest.

12/18/19 4:59 PM
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Kirik - 
Taco Muncher - 
Kirik -
StrikingMMA - Why does Cepeda see everything through a racial prism?

Because we are not yet a color blind society, and no one else in the MMA space is talking about it.

Jonathan Snowden from Bleacher Report in 2012:
 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1427431-riots-racists-and-more-the-worst-of-mma-fandom



Here's a 2013 article from VICE, written by Josh Rosenblatt, featuring Rashad Evans on racism in MMA:

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/4wqm8p/rashad-evans-and-racism

 


Mayweather on racism in combat sports in 2016 (cites McGregor and Rousey):

https://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-and-ronda-rousey-proof-racism-exists-in-combat-sports-010516

 


Tyron Woodley on racism in MMA in 2017:

https://www.mmaweekly.com/tyron-woodley-explains-his-comments-about-racism-in-mma-video
 


A 2018 BBC article on racim and homophobia sparked by Colby Covington's antics:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/372fc502-721c-4270-906f-6ff790a6f971

 

 


That's five articles in seven years. If you find mention of race is MMA every year or two overwhelming, I am a little at a loss for words to be honest.


Well, we do have you to remind us of how inferior those of us that voted for President Trump are.

We are lucky in that regard.

12/18/19 5:03 PM
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Yay politics on the UG too! 

12/18/19 5:05 PM
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Kirik -
Taco Muncher - 
Kirik -
StrikingMMA - Why does Cepeda see everything through a racial prism?

Because we are not yet a color blind society, and no one else in the MMA space is talking about it.

Jonathan Snowden from Bleacher Report in 2012:
 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1427431-riots-racists-and-more-the-worst-of-mma-fandom



Here's a 2013 article from VICE, written by Josh Rosenblatt, featuring Rashad Evans on racism in MMA:

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/4wqm8p/rashad-evans-and-racism

 


Mayweather on racism in combat sports in 2016 (cites McGregor and Rousey):

https://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-and-ronda-rousey-proof-racism-exists-in-combat-sports-010516

 


Tyron Woodley on racism in MMA in 2017:

https://www.mmaweekly.com/tyron-woodley-explains-his-comments-about-racism-in-mma-video
 


A 2018 BBC article on racim and homophobia sparked by Colby Covington's antics:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/372fc502-721c-4270-906f-6ff790a6f971

 

 


That's five articles in seven years. If you find mention of race is MMA every year or two overwhelming, I am a little at a loss for words to be honest.

 

But it's far from an exhaustive list. Just a few URLs I easily found through a quick Google search. There's much more out there. 

12/18/19 5:07 PM
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UltimateKeyboardWarrior - 
Kirik - 
Taco Muncher - 
Kirik -
StrikingMMA - Why does Cepeda see everything through a racial prism?

Because we are not yet a color blind society, and no one else in the MMA space is talking about it.

Jonathan Snowden from Bleacher Report in 2012:
 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1427431-riots-racists-and-more-the-worst-of-mma-fandom



Here's a 2013 article from VICE, written by Josh Rosenblatt, featuring Rashad Evans on racism in MMA:

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/4wqm8p/rashad-evans-and-racism

 


Mayweather on racism in combat sports in 2016 (cites McGregor and Rousey):

https://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-and-ronda-rousey-proof-racism-exists-in-combat-sports-010516

 


Tyron Woodley on racism in MMA in 2017:

https://www.mmaweekly.com/tyron-woodley-explains-his-comments-about-racism-in-mma-video
 


A 2018 BBC article on racim and homophobia sparked by Colby Covington's antics:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/372fc502-721c-4270-906f-6ff790a6f971

 

 


That's five articles in seven years. If you find mention of race is MMA every year or two overwhelming, I am a little at a loss for words to be honest.


Well, we do have you to remind us of how inferior those of us that voted for President Trump are.

We are lucky in that regard.


Dude, I have close friends, better people than I am, who are enthusiastic supporters of the President. If I said something that inferred Hillary voters were by some measure superior to Trump voters, I was in error. I'm not saying I didn't (I say a lot of stupid ish) but if I did, it was in error. Neither do I think Christians are inferior to Muslims or Jews or vice versa. I just don't think that way, in my right mind.

12/18/19 5:08 PM
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I am thankful that the guy is so over the top, so obviously damaged, articles like that don't even bother me because just look at the source.

 

I feel sorry for him. Can you imagine, everything you think about, every decision you make, you base it on race, racism, or your skewed view on races and racism.  

 

That's got to be a shitty way to live.  Always trying to be the victim.  I understand so many people nowadays naturally gravitate towards being a victim, I just don't understand the upbringing that causes this mentality.

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Kirik - 
UltimateKeyboardWarrior - 
Kirik - 
Taco Muncher - 
Kirik -
StrikingMMA - Why does Cepeda see everything through a racial prism?

Because we are not yet a color blind society, and no one else in the MMA space is talking about it.

Jonathan Snowden from Bleacher Report in 2012:
 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1427431-riots-racists-and-more-the-worst-of-mma-fandom



Here's a 2013 article from VICE, written by Josh Rosenblatt, featuring Rashad Evans on racism in MMA:

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/4wqm8p/rashad-evans-and-racism

 


Mayweather on racism in combat sports in 2016 (cites McGregor and Rousey):

https://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-and-ronda-rousey-proof-racism-exists-in-combat-sports-010516

 


Tyron Woodley on racism in MMA in 2017:

https://www.mmaweekly.com/tyron-woodley-explains-his-comments-about-racism-in-mma-video
 


A 2018 BBC article on racim and homophobia sparked by Colby Covington's antics:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/372fc502-721c-4270-906f-6ff790a6f971

 

 


That's five articles in seven years. If you find mention of race is MMA every year or two overwhelming, I am a little at a loss for words to be honest.


Well, we do have you to remind us of how inferior those of us that voted for President Trump are.

We are lucky in that regard.


Dude, I have close friends, better people than I am, who are enthusiastic supporters of the President. If I said something that inferred Hillary voters were by some measure superior to Trump voters, I was in error. I'm not saying I didn't (I say a lot of stupid ish) but if I did, it was in error. Neither do I think Christians are inferior to Muslims or Jews or vice versa. I just don't think that way, in my right mind.


No, it was the incredibly insulting article that you wrote when Trump attended the UFC.

Sorry, your "aw, shucks" BS stopped flying a long time ago.  It was an intentionally insulting article, and you know it.

12/18/19 5:11 PM
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stainlesssteel -

First of to all the Cepeda haters, the guy writes for Yahoo, while you inhabit an online message board. So spare everyone the tiresome hate.

Second of all, bravo to Cepeda for going where 99% of MMA writers fear to thread. Cepeda decries the lack of acknowledgement for the toughness of Kamaru Usman as opposed to the mountain of praise heaped on Colby Covington:

"It's also tough, especially in that context, to be that black man and hear the crowd chant your opponent's name as you fight him -- the same fighter who has called you "boy," and who said that the only way your family has served the United States has been by serving prison sentences. It's also tough hearing the crowd chant "USA! USA!" for your opponent even though you're an American as he is, you just have darker skin."

Whoa! Major props to Cepeda for going there and maybe that's why his article was not posted on the UG? But think about it. What difference really is what Covington did to Usman than how say Jackie Robinson was treated when he first entered baseball? Robinson was derogatorily called 'boy' then just like Usman was, and told to go back to where he belonged just like Covington also did. Back in the day, Covington would probably be one of the players telling the manager he would not play alongside a black man.

Cepeda continues:

"Another troubling narrative that seems to becoming conventional wisdom is that Usman's victory was simply a matter of his superior physical power overtaking Covington's game toughness. The narrative of the powerful and athletic black athlete overwhelming the hardworking and plucky white athlete is nothing new, and advancing it here is lazy at best."

 

Bravo Elias! The true power of a writer is forcing those who need it to be confronted with the truth.

In my opinion, this is the best article Cepeda has ever written.

 

Don't Talk About Colby Covington's Toughness Without Talking About Kamaru Usman First

Aint Cepeda that asshat who Kirik replaced his shit pieces with threads instead? Threads are way better then the crap he writes. Cepeda es joto.

12/18/19 5:13 PM
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Oh shit, YAHOO...the irony of that is hilarious

12/18/19 5:22 PM
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I think that people are also smoothing over the fact that Colby physically attacked a black man, which is also racist. 

12/18/19 5:24 PM
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D241 -

I am thankful that the guy is so over the top, so obviously damaged, articles like that don't even bother me because just look at the source.

 

I feel sorry for him. Can you imagine, everything you think about, every decision you make, you base it on race, racism, or your skewed view on races and racism.  

 

That's got to be a shitty way to live.  Always trying to be the victim.  I understand so many people nowadays naturally gravitate towards being a victim, I just don't understand the upbringing that causes this mentality.

This was my first thought.

 

all you guys screaming racism at the sky are fucking pathetic.  I'm sorry that you live your life automatically assuming everyone is thinking that a race is inferior to their own.  Shows where your head is really at.  The lady doth protest too much.  
 

he called him boy?  Seriously?