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5/21/19 7:05 AM
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So I recently rewatched GSP Vs. Hendricks and I got to say Hendricks won that fight. I mean it was close and Hendricks wasn’t really robbed, but I think there was no doubt it should’ve went in Hendricks favor. Now of course you say that pre Usada Hendricks was different and that may be true, but at the end of the day we don’t really know if he was using or not...

5/21/19 7:12 AM
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GSP groupies in 3...2...1

5/21/19 7:42 AM
3/26/13
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I completely agree. I was at a friends house that night with about 5 or 6 people and everyone there thought Hendricks won that fight and all but 1 guy was going for GSP.

5/21/19 7:48 AM
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It was a close fight with Hendricks clearly winning 2 rounds, one very close round and GSP slightly winning the other 2 rounds. Hendricks did more damage for sure and in the street that's no contest GSP got beat. The fight shows the problem with the way the scoring system is set up.
5/21/19 10:05 AM
12/12/02
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MrTamliani - 

So I recently rewatched GSP Vs. Hendricks and I got to say Hendricks won that fight. I mean it was close and Hendricks wasn’t really robbed, but I think there was no doubt it should’ve went in Hendricks favor. Now of course you say that pre Usada Hendricks was different and that may be true, but at the end of the day we don’t really know if he was using or not...


I think we know.

I basically agree with you on all points, with one added. Hendricks probably won, but it was close. It wasn't an outrageous robbery. And in retrospect, It would have been a shame for GSP to have a loss to Hendricks undermine his legacy when everybody close to the fight knew Hendricks was juicing, tried their damnedest but failed to get him to fight clean only afterwards to see the bottom drop out of his career when USADA hit.

Don't get me wrong. Hendricks was a good fighter, and it's certainly plausible that GSP was also juicing at times--there's speculation--but that is something we should acknowledge we don't know.
5/21/19 10:17 AM
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MrTamliani - 

So I recently rewatched GSP Vs. Hendricks and I got to say Hendricks won that fight. I mean it was close and Hendricks wasn’t really robbed, but I think there was no doubt it should’ve went in Hendricks favor. Now of course you say that pre Usada Hendricks was different and that may be true, but at the end of the day we don’t really know if he was using or not...


I think we know.

I basically agree with you on all points, with one added. Hendricks probably won, but it was close. It wasn't an outrageous robbery. And in retrospect, It would have been a shame for GSP to have a loss to Hendricks undermine his legacy when everybody close to the fight knew Hendricks was juicing, tried their damnedest but failed to get him to fight clean only afterwards to see the bottom drop out of his career when USADA hit.

Don't get me wrong. Hendricks was a good fighter, and it's certainly plausible that GSP was also juicing at times--there's speculation--but that is something we should acknowledge we don't know.

good post. agree on every single word. 

5/21/19 11:07 AM
5/8/13
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Honestly I think they were both on some kind of PED & Hendricks won a very close fight.... Johnny fell way off after that but GSP left the sport so who knows....   I also believe whatever they were using helped Johnny way more than gsp lol, like I feel it’s pretty obvious gsp is the better fighter and if all things were equal he’d win 8/10 at least..... 

5/21/19 11:43 AM
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I think the general perception is Hendricks clearly won 2 out of 5 rounds. GSP won 2 very close rounds. And 1 round was a coin flip. Judging the fight as a whole you give it to Hendricks. Judging the fight round bye round (as the UFC does) you could have gave it to either. And as the old saying goes you gotta clearly beat the champ so I think the right decision was made. But yes controversial. 

5/21/19 11:51 AM
4/11/10
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Hendrix was a cheating faggot

5/21/19 11:55 AM
3/22/16
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GSP 1,3,5.

GSP took the fight by edging out the last round that Hendricks coasted in a bit thinking he had it in the bag.
5/21/19 1:02 PM
6/9/16
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VinegarStrokes - It was a close fight with Hendricks clearly winning 2 rounds, one very close round and GSP slightly winning the other 2 rounds. Hendricks did more damage for sure and in the street that's no contest GSP got beat. The fight shows the problem with the way the scoring system is set up.

 

100% this. There's a longstanding belief in combat sports that to take the title from the champ, you have to beat him convincingly. If Hendricks had won a third round the way he won the other two rounds, he'd likely have become the champion himself. But the judges gave the close round to the guy with the title. It's happened that way many times.

5/21/19 1:17 PM
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wazzu19 - 

I think the general perception is Hendricks clearly won 2 out of 5 rounds. GSP won 2 very close rounds. And 1 round was a coin flip. Judging the fight as a whole you give it to Hendricks. Judging the fight round bye round (as the UFC does) you could have gave it to either. And as the old saying goes you gotta clearly beat the champ so I think the right decision was made. But yes controversial. 


This.

If Hendricks would have won, nobody would have been upset though. It was that close score wise...even though Hendricks clearly did more damage.
5/21/19 1:22 PM
11/28/03
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gsp may have eeked out 3 rounds, hendro won 2 rounds very clearly

in the end myself and most media outlets gave it to hendro

5/21/19 2:14 PM
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Taco Muncher - 
VinegarStrokes - It was a close fight with Hendricks clearly winning 2 rounds, one very close round and GSP slightly winning the other 2 rounds. Hendricks did more damage for sure and in the street that's no contest GSP got beat. The fight shows the problem with the way the scoring system is set up.

 

100% this. There's a longstanding belief in combat sports that to take the title from the champ, you have to beat him convincingly. If Hendricks had won a third round the way he won the other two rounds, he'd likely have become the champion himself. But the judges gave the close round to the guy with the title. It's happened that way many times.


That longstanding belief was just bullshit to explain away the corruption in boxing.
5/21/19 2:20 PM
10/14/17
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Hey buddy, 2013 called and they want their fight back. 

Seriously though, there has been countless threads on this. 

It doesn’t even matter anymore 

5/21/19 2:25 PM
7/1/15
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Hendricks easily won that fight.  Idc what anyone says.  It was even more obviousl than Diaz beating Carlos Conduit 

5/21/19 2:34 PM
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Taco Muncher - 
VinegarStrokes - It was a close fight with Hendricks clearly winning 2 rounds, one very close round and GSP slightly winning the other 2 rounds. Hendricks did more damage for sure and in the street that's no contest GSP got beat. The fight shows the problem with the way the scoring system is set up.

 

100% this. There's a longstanding belief in combat sports that to take the title from the champ, you have to beat him convincingly. If Hendricks had won a third round the way he won the other two rounds, he'd likely have become the champion himself. But the judges gave the close round to the guy with the title. It's happened that way many times.


That longstanding belief was just bullshit to explain away the corruption in boxing.


The corruption in boxing goes far beyond that. Judging is no doubt shitty/"pre-arranged" sometimes, but you don't dethrone a champ in a "squeaker" of a fight. 

5/21/19 3:23 PM
2/20/16
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Always thought Hendricks won that fight

One thing I would say is in rnd 5 of that fight GSP showed a ton of heart and took the fight to Johnny - which makes me think he knew he was behind

5/21/19 3:32 PM
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GSP nuthuggibg French Canadian checking in. Originally watched the fight live with 16 GSP lovers at my place. We thought we had all witnessed GSP lose his title.

 

I have since rewatched it a few times without commentary. I see GSP maybe winning 2 rounds but i can't give him 3. 

 

In hindsight, knowing what I know now, I'm happy it worked out that way. 

5/21/19 3:41 PM
4/2/08
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The ironic thing that nobody ever mentions is that in Johnny's next fight he won the interim belt in the same fashion that GSP beat him. Lawler kicked his ass in that fight, but Hendricks won on points in a couple of rounds where not much happened.....Thats the way I remember it anyway....was watching it live in Dallas. 

5/21/19 4:38 PM
11/8/11
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Thought Hendricks won when I watched it live. After rewatching later and paying more attention, GSP won 3 rounds. Fight looked weird because Hendricks won 2 rounds convincingly while GSP just barely edged out his 3 rounds. The right guy won though.

5/21/19 5:09 PM
7/1/15
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Hendricks was never the same after that fight and USADA though. GSP went on to become the god damn MW champ after... crazy 

5/21/19 5:17 PM
12/26/18
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Guess what? He didn't.

5/21/19 5:37 PM
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5/21/19 5:38 PM
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As you can see, all three judges scored Rounds 2, 3, 4 and 5 the same way. Each gave Hendricks Rounds 2 and 4, and all three judges gave St-Pierre Rounds 3 and 5. 

 

The numbers corroborate the scores. Round 2 saw Hendricks land 37 total strikes (30 significant, 19 power) compared to GSP's 30 (28 significant, seven power). Hendricks wobbled the champ twice, which made it a clear-cut 10-9 for the challenger.

Round 3 saw Georges St-Pierre bounce back, landing 32 total strikes (31 significant) compared to Hendricks' 22 (15 significant). Hendricks landed a takedown during the round but just six strikes on the ground, none of which qualified as power shots.

Round 4 swung back in favor of Hendricks. Hendricks landed 41 total strikes (18 significant) to GSP's 24 (14 significant). 21 of Hendricks' strikes, though, came from his time on the ground, when the champ slipped on the Bud Light logo in the center of the Octagon. Slipping over the decals on the mat is commonplace in MMA, and Hendricks made the most of it before inexplicably letting GSP get back to his feet. 

The fifth and final round saw GSP hit 13 total strikes (nine significant) to Hendricks' 15 (four significant). However, GSP would take the round by scoring two takedowns and finding success in the clinch.

The full fight numbers, oddly, saw Hendricks beat out GSP in total strikes 142-125, but GSP would lead in significant strikes 101-85.