boxingman - its not a " hip hop" thing
its a street thing
a russian street guy or even some french street guy would react very differently to smack talk then some wrestler who who has a BA in math...
the concept of personal honour and not letting anyone disrespect you
is much bigger thing for one group then the other...
because in bad areas in pretty much any country
if you let people disrespect you,
your fucked until your dont...life will be miserable in a way
a middle class kid cant even think off
lol if you didnt grow up in a rough area
it wont sense
sadly to many keyboarders out dont get many fighters
come from those areas and in some sports almost all do
and its not about trying to look hard, its just how childhood in those types of areas shapes you
so its a little funny when people are shocked to see goon behaviour from fighters
should it be there...no
but your dealing with fighters not tennis players who went to ivy school's payed for by daddy the doctor
I'm from a shit hole myself and this rings true. People would be seen as victims and it only led to worse victimisation. Actual victimisation, too, not some theory of oppression you can't perceive without your sjw glasses. Getting the shit beat out of you, daily abuse by various groups, never feeling safe.
If you allow it, it happens worse. You have to nip it as soon as it starts. Sometimes it gets worse before it gets better.
I don't like talking about this stuff, it always comes off cheesy and there really is a cultural (more class than culture, really) barrier that will just not allow people to understand it. It's looked down upon, because really, it shouldn't be how people act. It's easy to point out the issues with it. But that's just what it is, and if you've never been in it, you'll never get it. And it's different from just bullying. It's the lifestyle of everyone around you. It's your friends and cousins and often dad's aren't much different. And then the girls you like are getting with these guys and you want the girls so you do some shit you aren't proud of and before you know it you're one of the dicks.
Some people get out of that cycle. Some don't. Education really does help. And so does getting away from those types of characters. Which can be hard, because in these less affluent areas, sometimes your mates really are the only ones there for you. Some of the family lives are fucking awful. Mums on smack, dad is an alcoholic etc etc etc. 30 years of a life like that, you can't expect someone to just have grace suddenly.
But it doesn't matter, trying explain any of this stuff bears no fruit. Trying to give back to your community when you get out of that state is one the best things, imo. I seen that thing with Santos training local kids for free and getting reduced medical bills etc and it's fucking incredible. I really wish he had beat Jon. I'm sure Masvidal does similar shit too. You do often see these types of characters who make it giving back, because they understand how much it's needed.
This was waffley, my bad lads. Hard to put into words.