UnderGround Forums How long before tall black guys take over the UFC?

4/13/19 9:41 PM
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I give it less than 10 years that every weight class will be dominated by tall athletic black guys. Just like the nba 

4/13/19 9:46 PM
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Will there also be a slam dunk competition?

4/13/19 9:47 PM
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Now?
4/13/19 9:48 PM
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scourge - Now?

Not yet but in the next 10 years. I just feel like that is the perfect body type for mma. 

4/13/19 9:49 PM
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God Of Thunder - 
scourge - Now?

Not yet but in the next 10 years. I just feel like that is the perfect body type for mma. 


I think reach is more important than height.
4/13/19 9:50 PM
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I’ve thought that from time to time, but I think it’s just a different game.  There’s so many different strategies and skill sets that I don’t think one race or body type will ever be supreme.  I could be wrong though.

4/13/19 9:52 PM
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Turner’s corner really needs to remind him he’s tall and black right now imo.

4/13/19 9:55 PM
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Well... they're 1-2 tonight.

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God Of Thunder -
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Not yet but in the next 10 years. I just feel like that is the perfect body type for mma. 

You could be right because they separate them by weight. It’s very unrealistic. Imagine what a good 6’4” trained fighter would do to Izzy boy if he weighed 240 like most 6’4” men do?  He’d beat the fuck out of stick man. Skinny fuckers get beat down in the real world. In the fake world they are seen consistently winning fights against 5’8” fighters. 

Today is a bad day for skinny bitches so far. And after Kelvin knocks stick man out maybe it will resemble the real world. 

And I only say that because I’m old and out of shape and I’m jealous lol

4/13/19 9:58 PM
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not today
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Anek -
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Not yet but in the next 10 years. I just feel like that is the perfect body type for mma. 


I think reach is more important than height.

Yeah, Jon Jones isn't THAT tall for 205. His reach is what's abnormal, it's freakish. That combined with his wrestling, and he's better off than any really tall fighter. 

4/13/19 9:59 PM
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CMFanforlife -
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Not yet but in the next 10 years. I just feel like that is the perfect body type for mma. 

You could be right because they separate them by weight. It’s very unrealistic. Imagine what a good 6’4” trained fighter would do to Izzy boy if he weighed 240 like most 6’4” men do?  He’d beat the fuck out of stick man. Skinny fuckers get beat down in the real world. In the fake world they are seen consistently winning fights against 5’8” fighters. 

Today is a bad day for skinny bitches so far. And after Kelvin knocks stick man out maybe it will resemble the real world. 

And I only say that because I’m old and out of shape and I’m jealous lol

Street fights aren't broken down into height divisions.

4/13/19 10:00 PM
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Turner’s corner really needs to remind him he’s tall and black right now imo.

lol

4/13/19 10:00 PM
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Well... they're 1-2 tonight.

They are but I had the exact same thought as OP... some of these guys are just young or inexperienced. The size difference that body type creates is such a massive advantage. 

4/13/19 10:02 PM
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Jalin Turner has a six-inch height and reach advantage over Matt Frevola and he still got beat. In fact, Frevola came close to choking him out in the first 60 seconds.

Being tall and black is not an auto win.
4/13/19 10:04 PM
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it helps but skill is more of a factor IMO 

4/13/19 10:04 PM
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Tall seems weaker to me...

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Tall seems weaker to me...

That's why I think reach is what matters. Being moderate height with great reach, that enables you to be physically filled out and strong, while still having the main advantage that being taller than everybody brings, the superior reach and range.

4/13/19 10:08 PM
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Statistically, height is not an advantage unless there's also a reach advantage. Reach is a huge advantage though, and the advantage increases as the reach disparity increases.

We could predict that MMA will eventually be dominated by fighters with long arms for their height, but it already is. The average arm to height ratio is considerably greater in fighters in the UFC than in the general population.

Source: Fightnomics
4/13/19 10:09 PM
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KirkBJJ - 
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Well... they're 1-2 tonight.

They are but I had the exact same thought as OP... some of these guys are just young or inexperienced. The size difference that body type creates is such a massive advantage. 


It's an advantage, but what fights keep showing is that skills are more important.

Greg Hardy is also big, tall, black and athletic. He sucks because his skills are weak.

Francis vs Stipe, Kongo vs Mir, Hunt, and Roy Nelson, Corey Hill vs everybody.

Tall and black only gets you so far.
4/13/19 10:11 PM
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Another tall black guy up.

4/13/19 10:13 PM
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KirkBJJ - 
ABCTT_HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe -

Well... they're 1-2 tonight.

They are but I had the exact same thought as OP... some of these guys are just young or inexperienced. The size difference that body type creates is such a massive advantage. 


It's an advantage, but what fights keep showing is that skills are more important.

Greg Hardy is also big, tall, black and athletic. He sucks because his skills are weak.

Francis vs Stipe, Kongo vs Mir, Hunt, and Roy Nelson, Corey Hill vs everybody.

Tall and black only gets you so far.

I think Kongo and Mir are about the same height.

4/13/19 10:19 PM
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Millender, Turner and guys like that are the future. Once they learn the finer points of this Sport (Learning to be more well rounded and use their reach more effectively), they’re going to have a lot of success. Just as long as they stay the course.
4/13/19 10:33 PM
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And Ovince Saint Preux just got finished.

Tall black guys are 1-3 tonight.
4/13/19 10:36 PM
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Tall seems weaker to me...

That's why I think reach is what matters. Being moderate height with great reach, that enables you to be physically filled out and strong, while still having the main advantage that being taller than everybody brings, the superior reach and range.

Like GSP. Broad and strong, not tall for his weight class, but long armed.