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Israel gets slept.

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9/24/20 11:23 AM
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Costa hasn't slept anyone in the UFC, but you think he will KO Adesanya?

How do you see that happening? I want Costa to win, I'm just struggling with seeing his path to victory. Costa likes to back opponents up to the cage and overwhelm them, and I just can't imagine Adesanya letting that happen. Further, Costa hasn't shown 1 punch KO power in the UFC, so...

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Israel gets slept.


Costa hasn't slept anyone in the UFC, but you think he will KO Adesanya?

How do you see that happening? I want Costa to win, I'm just struggling with seeing his path to victory. Costa likes to back opponents up to the cage and overwhelm them, and I just can't imagine Adesanya letting that happen. Further, Costa hasn't shown 1 punch KO power in the UFC, so...

All of his UFC fights have been stoppages except Romero.  Slept doesn’t mean 1 punch KO.  If the first doesn’t do it, the next 5 coming right behind it might.  

9/24/20 1:31 PM
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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 

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Costa hasn't slept anyone in the UFC, but you think he will KO Adesanya?

How do you see that happening? I want Costa to win, I'm just struggling with seeing his path to victory. Costa likes to back opponents up to the cage and overwhelm them, and I just can't imagine Adesanya letting that happen. Further, Costa hasn't shown 1 punch KO power in the UFC, so...

All of his UFC fights have been stoppages except Romero.  Slept doesn’t mean 1 punch KO.  If the first doesn’t do it, the next 5 coming right behind it might.  


I disagree. Slept means KOd.

TKO != slept.

9/24/20 1:48 PM
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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 

Do you not think him standing outside of Costa’s range and outstriking him is an effective strategy? 

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 

Do you not think him standing outside of Costa’s range and outstriking him is an effective strategy? 

He will be on his bicycle all night. Fight might go to a boring decision because of this. Maybe a win for him but not a win for the fans!

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

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Ill take izzy

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

I disagree I think he equally did not engage Romero. He also shares the blame for that waste of a fight. As soon as he comes in he eats a big left and did not engage for the next 4 rounds. Boring champion. Romero knows his game is to use his length and run. Why should he expose himself to danger like that? Everytime Romero moved forward Runnersanya backs away more and more. He fought scared. Now compare Costas fight with Romero. That's why Costa is the fan favourite in this fight. He is getting all the attention and Israel hates it.

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

I disagree I think he equally did not engage Romero. He also shares the blame for that waste of a fight. As soon as he comes in he eats a big left and did not engage for the next 4 rounds. Boring champion. Romero knows his game is to use his length and run. Why should he expose himself to danger like that? Everytime Romero moved forward Runnersanya backs away more and more. He fought scared. Now compare Costas fight with Romero. That's why Costa is the fan favourite in this fight. He is getting all the attention and Israel hates it.

Anderson had his fair share of boring fights as well. Maia, lietes, cote all come to mind as being horrible. I dont remember people calling anderson scared like they are izzy. often times two counter strikers lead to boring fights. 

Aggressive costa plays to israel's strengths imo. I think costa gets caught coming in wild and tko'd in the 2nd or 3rd. 

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

I disagree I think he equally did not engage Romero. He also shares the blame for that waste of a fight. As soon as he comes in he eats a big left and did not engage for the next 4 rounds. Boring champion. Romero knows his game is to use his length and run. Why should he expose himself to danger like that? Everytime Romero moved forward Runnersanya backs away more and more. He fought scared. Now compare Costas fight with Romero. That's why Costa is the fan favourite in this fight. He is getting all the attention and Israel hates it.

Anderson had his fair share of boring fights as well. Maia, lietes, cote all come to mind as being horrible. I dont remember people calling anderson scared like they are izzy. often times two counter strikers lead to boring fights. 

Aggressive costa plays to israel's strengths imo. I think costa gets caught coming in wild and tko'd in the 2nd or 3rd. 

Fair enough. My prediction is this goes to a decision and Costa gets robbed via judges split decision. 

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

I disagree I think he equally did not engage Romero. He also shares the blame for that waste of a fight. As soon as he comes in he eats a big left and did not engage for the next 4 rounds. Boring champion. Romero knows his game is to use his length and run. Why should he expose himself to danger like that? Everytime Romero moved forward Runnersanya backs away more and more. He fought scared. Now compare Costas fight with Romero. That's why Costa is the fan favourite in this fight. He is getting all the attention and Israel hates it.


It's debatable; that I will not disagree with. I also agree both are to blame.

I don't think it makes sense to blame Adesanya for changing his strategy after eating a big left, though. Adjusting your gameplan after eating a big shot because you realize you are playing into your opponent's gameplan is a sign of a great fighter. It's hard to knock that.

And yes, Costa fought Romero like he fights everyone. Did you really expect Adesanya to slug it out with Romero like that, though? That's not his [edit] s t y l e.

Bottom line for me is Romero fought less like his typical self than Adesanya in that fight, which make me lean more towards him as far as blame.
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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

I disagree I think he equally did not engage Romero. He also shares the blame for that waste of a fight. As soon as he comes in he eats a big left and did not engage for the next 4 rounds. Boring champion. Romero knows his game is to use his length and run. Why should he expose himself to danger like that? Everytime Romero moved forward Runnersanya backs away more and more. He fought scared. Now compare Costas fight with Romero. That's why Costa is the fan favourite in this fight. He is getting all the attention and Israel hates it.


It's debatable; that I will not disagree with. I also agree both are to blame.

I don't think it makes sense to blame Adesanya for changing his strategy after eating a big left, though. Adjusting your gameplan after eating a big shot because you realize you are playing into your opponent's gameplan is a sign of a great fighter. It's hard to knock that.

And yes, Costa fought Romero like he fights everyone. Did you really expect Adesanya to slug it out with Romero like that, though? That's not his [edit] s t y l e.

Bottom line for me is Romero fought less like his typical self than Adesanya in that fight, which make me lean more towards him as far as blame.

Agreed. What's your prediction on this fight?

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A lot of people are expecting Costa to be the aggressor. If he goes into the cage and choses instead to be cautious so that he doesn't eat a bunch of counters all night, it could make for a mind-numbing five rounds. 

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

I disagree I think he equally did not engage Romero. He also shares the blame for that waste of a fight. As soon as he comes in he eats a big left and did not engage for the next 4 rounds. Boring champion. Romero knows his game is to use his length and run. Why should he expose himself to danger like that? Everytime Romero moved forward Runnersanya backs away more and more. He fought scared. Now compare Costas fight with Romero. That's why Costa is the fan favourite in this fight. He is getting all the attention and Israel hates it.

Anderson had his fair share of boring fights as well. Maia, lietes, cote all come to mind as being horrible. I dont remember people calling anderson scared like they are izzy. often times two counter strikers lead to boring fights. 

Aggressive costa plays to israel's strengths imo. I think costa gets caught coming in wild and tko'd in the 2nd or 3rd. 

Fair enough. My prediction is this goes to a decision and Costa gets robbed via judges split decision. 

I like your specificity of vision. 

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

I disagree I think he equally did not engage Romero. He also shares the blame for that waste of a fight. As soon as he comes in he eats a big left and did not engage for the next 4 rounds. Boring champion. Romero knows his game is to use his length and run. Why should he expose himself to danger like that? Everytime Romero moved forward Runnersanya backs away more and more. He fought scared. Now compare Costas fight with Romero. That's why Costa is the fan favourite in this fight. He is getting all the attention and Israel hates it.

Anderson had his fair share of boring fights as well. Maia, lietes, cote all come to mind as being horrible. I dont remember people calling anderson scared like they are izzy. often times two counter strikers lead to boring fights. 

Aggressive costa plays to israel's strengths imo. I think costa gets caught coming in wild and tko'd in the 2nd or 3rd. 

Fair enough. My prediction is this goes to a decision and Costa gets robbed via judges split decision. 

I like your specificity of vision. 

I dont believe Runnersanya can finish Costa. Costa is very durable and Runnersanya will fight same way vs Romero, on his bicycle. Costa also will not be able to implement his game plan effectively when his opponent has good footwork to survive and not engaging.

 

I believe Costa will look good but not enough in judges eyes to take the decision vs a champion. Fans will not like the decision because they will see that the aggressor during the whole fight is Costa. Runnersanya survives and tagging Costa here and there, nothing major, but surviving the rounds backing away not taking big damage. He will get tagged by Costa intermittently between rounds moving forward. Yet the judges at the end of the day will give the decision to the champion. Think Jon Jones vs Reyes.

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

I disagree I think he equally did not engage Romero. He also shares the blame for that waste of a fight. As soon as he comes in he eats a big left and did not engage for the next 4 rounds. Boring champion. Romero knows his game is to use his length and run. Why should he expose himself to danger like that? Everytime Romero moved forward Runnersanya backs away more and more. He fought scared. Now compare Costas fight with Romero. That's why Costa is the fan favourite in this fight. He is getting all the attention and Israel hates it.


It's debatable; that I will not disagree with. I also agree both are to blame.

I don't think it makes sense to blame Adesanya for changing his strategy after eating a big left, though. Adjusting your gameplan after eating a big shot because you realize you are playing into your opponent's gameplan is a sign of a great fighter. It's hard to knock that.

And yes, Costa fought Romero like he fights everyone. Did you really expect Adesanya to slug it out with Romero like that, though? That's not his [edit] s t y l e.

Bottom line for me is Romero fought less like his typical self than Adesanya in that fight, which make me lean more towards him as far as blame.

Agreed. What's your prediction on this fight?


If Costa fights like he typically does, I see Adesanya running a striking clinic on him and stopping him in either the first or early in the second.

I really hope Costa's team has something unique in mind as far as strategy, else I just don't see Adesanya allowing Costa to back him up to the cage and tee off on him. He will use footwork and counter with accuracy. I want Costa to win, but it's hard for me to see a path for that given what we have seen of Costa so far.

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

I disagree I think he equally did not engage Romero. He also shares the blame for that waste of a fight. As soon as he comes in he eats a big left and did not engage for the next 4 rounds. Boring champion. Romero knows his game is to use his length and run. Why should he expose himself to danger like that? Everytime Romero moved forward Runnersanya backs away more and more. He fought scared. Now compare Costas fight with Romero. That's why Costa is the fan favourite in this fight. He is getting all the attention and Israel hates it.


It's debatable; that I will not disagree with. I also agree both are to blame.

I don't think it makes sense to blame Adesanya for changing his strategy after eating a big left, though. Adjusting your gameplan after eating a big shot because you realize you are playing into your opponent's gameplan is a sign of a great fighter. It's hard to knock that.

And yes, Costa fought Romero like he fights everyone. Did you really expect Adesanya to slug it out with Romero like that, though? That's not his [edit] s t y l e.

Bottom line for me is Romero fought less like his typical self than Adesanya in that fight, which make me lean more towards him as far as blame.

Agreed. What's your prediction on this fight?


If Costa fights like he typically does, I see Adesanya running a striking clinic on him and stopping him in either the first or early in the second.

I really hope Costa's team has something unique in mind as far as strategy, else I just don't see Adesanya allowing Costa to back him up to the cage and tee off on him. He will use footwork and counter with accuracy. I want Costa to win, but it's hard for me to see a path for that given what we have seen of Costa so far.

When was the last time Adesanya knocked out someone backing away? Against a durable Costa it would absolutely not happen. Costa has a chin and took Romeros best shots in the pocket. You do agree that Adesanya will fight backwards counter striking. This leads to a decision.

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

I disagree I think he equally did not engage Romero. He also shares the blame for that waste of a fight. As soon as he comes in he eats a big left and did not engage for the next 4 rounds. Boring champion. Romero knows his game is to use his length and run. Why should he expose himself to danger like that? Everytime Romero moved forward Runnersanya backs away more and more. He fought scared. Now compare Costas fight with Romero. That's why Costa is the fan favourite in this fight. He is getting all the attention and Israel hates it.


It's debatable; that I will not disagree with. I also agree both are to blame.

I don't think it makes sense to blame Adesanya for changing his strategy after eating a big left, though. Adjusting your gameplan after eating a big shot because you realize you are playing into your opponent's gameplan is a sign of a great fighter. It's hard to knock that.

And yes, Costa fought Romero like he fights everyone. Did you really expect Adesanya to slug it out with Romero like that, though? That's not his [edit] s t y l e.

Bottom line for me is Romero fought less like his typical self than Adesanya in that fight, which make me lean more towards him as far as blame.

Agreed. What's your prediction on this fight?


If Costa fights like he typically does, I see Adesanya running a striking clinic on him and stopping him in either the first or early in the second.

I really hope Costa's team has something unique in mind as far as strategy, else I just don't see Adesanya allowing Costa to back him up to the cage and tee off on him. He will use footwork and counter with accuracy. I want Costa to win, but it's hard for me to see a path for that given what we have seen of Costa so far.

When was the last time Adesanya knocked out someone backing away? Against a durable Costa it would absolutely not happen. Costa has a chin and took Romeros best shots in the pocket. You do agree that Adesanya will fight backwards counter striking. This leads to a decision.


Why do you assume he will be backing away/fighting backwards?

I think Adesanya will likely use lateral movement and throw counters. The more pressure Costa brings, the more likely a counter can hurt him. That's just physics.

Another thing to note is Costa has only been to the 3rd round once in his pro-career. I'm very curious if he will not pressure as much as usual, which might things interesting.

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Lol Adesanya standing one foot behind his back, showing he is already looking to run all day in this fight like he did vs Romero. Don't run away Israel! 


I don't recall him running away from Romero. Seemed like Romero didn't want to engage first, and Adesanya learned quickly if he did Romero would throw bombs and counter. If Costa fights like he typically does, I don't think Adesanya will run, but instead will likely counter and pick his shots. At least I hope, else fight will be horrible.

I disagree I think he equally did not engage Romero. He also shares the blame for that waste of a fight. As soon as he comes in he eats a big left and did not engage for the next 4 rounds. Boring champion. Romero knows his game is to use his length and run. Why should he expose himself to danger like that? Everytime Romero moved forward Runnersanya backs away more and more. He fought scared. Now compare Costas fight with Romero. That's why Costa is the fan favourite in this fight. He is getting all the attention and Israel hates it.


It's debatable; that I will not disagree with. I also agree both are to blame.

I don't think it makes sense to blame Adesanya for changing his strategy after eating a big left, though. Adjusting your gameplan after eating a big shot because you realize you are playing into your opponent's gameplan is a sign of a great fighter. It's hard to knock that.

And yes, Costa fought Romero like he fights everyone. Did you really expect Adesanya to slug it out with Romero like that, though? That's not his [edit] s t y l e.

Bottom line for me is Romero fought less like his typical self than Adesanya in that fight, which make me lean more towards him as far as blame.

Agreed. What's your prediction on this fight?


If Costa fights like he typically does, I see Adesanya running a striking clinic on him and stopping him in either the first or early in the second.

I really hope Costa's team has something unique in mind as far as strategy, else I just don't see Adesanya allowing Costa to back him up to the cage and tee off on him. He will use footwork and counter with accuracy. I want Costa to win, but it's hard for me to see a path for that given what we have seen of Costa so far.

When was the last time Adesanya knocked out someone backing away? Against a durable Costa it would absolutely not happen. Costa has a chin and took Romeros best shots in the pocket. You do agree that Adesanya will fight backwards counter striking. This leads to a decision.


Why do you assume he will be backing away/fighting backwards?

I think Adesanya will likely use lateral movement and throw counters. The more pressure Costa brings, the more likely a counter can hurt him. That's just physics.

Another thing to note is Costa has only been to the 3rd round once in his pro-career. I'm very curious if he will not pressure as much as usual, which might things interesting.

I'm very confident in Costas cardio more so than the Romero fight. If you check out his YouTube channel they have been working very hard for the championship rounds. They are certainly anticipating it since Runnersanya likes to move so much.... backing away yes. 

 

Lateral movement he uses only when getting comfortable vs an opponent he can bully. He cannot bully Costa, strength wise so he will be looking to run around in circles backing away like Romero fight.