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2/11/20 11:29 AM
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Edited: 2/11/20 11:46 AM
6/14/12
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donnybrook -

So now a referee will know if they take a point in the 3rd it will cause a win/draw. 

 

 

Irrelevant. The ref isnt there to ensure outcome. The ref is their to ensure fair play / safety. 

 

The ref likely knows the effect of his penalty anyway. Not like he cant tell whos winning.

2/11/20 11:57 AM
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Taco Muncher -
Tug Dabone -

Do away with judges altogether. Let the fans score the fight in real time over the internet. People at the event live can score it with their phones.

The majority of fans will be happy, because majority rules and bummer if you weren't in the majority. UFC could even start having PTS fights (Pay To Score): You pay $5 on top of the verrrrrrry reasonable ESPN+ fee and the PPV fee and you get to score the fight, and $2 of every $5 goes to the winner of the fight.

Do it, UFC. Do it now.

 

You never want to see a fighter like Colby Covington win again? Because many fans hate him with a blind rage. He would never win a close decision if the fans got to vote.

I think the percentage of fans who would vote against a guy like Covington out of spite would be small.

Covington beat Dos Anjos by UD, with scores of 48-47 X 2 and 49-46 on the judges' scorecards. By any definition, that's a close decision. According to mmadecisions.com, the overwhelming majority of MMA media scoring the fight had it 48-47 Covington. But this might shock you: 77% of fans on that site scored it for Covington.

Give the fans some credit: Many might find guys like Covington, Jon Jones, or even McGregor reprehensible, but they can still set aside their personal feelings when it comes to saying who won each round of a fight. (And for every person who can't stand a guy like Covington there's probably a fan who loves the guy, which you probably assume means that the Colby-lover will score it for him regardless what he did in the round.)

2/11/20 1:08 PM
8/18/12
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donnybrook -

Standby for 3rd rounds where 1 fighter is ahead 2-0 to become the most boring and frustrating thing to watch in all of sport.

Referees will probably have to become more involved giving warnings/point deductions for stalling and timidity

It couldn't be more obvious that a significant problem exists!  Instead of complaining about the effort to fix a major issue, in a way that gives transparency, maybe you should offer a suggestion smart guy!

2/11/20 1:11 PM
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Does anyone remember when they tried this in boxing on lates 90s/early 00s. I was so for it. But it was terrible. Fighters taking rds off, corners freaking out about scores in the middle of fights. (Didn't one yell at a judge?). 
   It sounds good on paper, but we've seen this before. Doesn't work well. 

2/11/20 1:26 PM
8/18/12
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The ten point must system works in boxing, but NOT in MMA.  Perhaps in a  three or five round fight it may prove effective 

2/11/20 4:15 PM
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Huligan -
donnybrook -

Standby for 3rd rounds where 1 fighter is ahead 2-0 to become the most boring and frustrating thing to watch in all of sport.

Referees will probably have to become more involved giving warnings/point deductions for stalling and timidity

It couldn't be more obvious that a significant problem exists!  Instead of complaining about the effort to fix a major issue, in a way that gives transparency, maybe you should offer a suggestion smart guy!

Geesh! Must've touched a nerve there big guy. 

 

Is this significant problem you speak of that fighters dont know the score between rounds? Or could the real problem be that MMA is regulated by local government commissions that are headed by often completely unqualified appointees who are then tasked with assigning officials to a sport they know little to nothing about?

 

These guys cant even agree on the clavicle grab and think the 12/6 elbow is a lethal strike.

 

There is no way to get rid of controversial scores in fights because it is a subjective interpretation, hence there will ALWAYS be disagreement.

Allowing/requiring officials to speak to the media post fight would greatly answer many questions and expose those who shouldnt be allowed near a ring or cage without a ticket.

 

2/11/20 7:42 PM
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BostonCharm -

Does anyone remember when they tried this in boxing on lates 90s/early 00s. I was so for it. But it was terrible. Fighters taking rds off, corners freaking out about scores in the middle of fights. (Didn't one yell at a judge?). 
   It sounds good on paper, but we've seen this before. Doesn't work well. 

Yep

2/11/20 8:20 PM
6/24/09
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They should just use the majority decision in the online media scores which lists the names of all MMA journalist websites and the scores they gave. Very rarely if ever has the majority on that been inconsistent with what the fans and fighters think and it's right there to be used.

2/11/20 11:01 PM
7/15/04
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Dogman -

Bad idea! You are going to see a lot of coasting and playing it safe the last rounds if a guy for sure knows hes up in a fight!

Exactly. This is a terrible idea. 

2/11/20 11:02 PM
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Dogman -
BostonCharm -

Does anyone remember when they tried this in boxing on lates 90s/early 00s. I was so for it. But it was terrible. Fighters taking rds off, corners freaking out about scores in the middle of fights. (Didn't one yell at a judge?). 
   It sounds good on paper, but we've seen this before. Doesn't work well. 

Yep

Exactly what will happen in MMA. How some of these goofs think this is a good idea is hard to believe.