UnderGround Forums Mike Winkeljohn: Hitler comparison was a mistake

6 days ago
1/4/20
Posts: 47
Diabeetus -
stainlesssteel -

The people who blame the lockdown for more kids being molested or more women being abused have to be thestupidest people on the planet. I'm so glad Greg Jackson has nothing to do with this assininity. Like if there was no lockdown, the molesters would be too busy doing their hair or working their jui jitsu to actually do any molesting.

The point he is making is that the kids aren't going to school and are staying home all the time and therefore aren't reporting these things to their school counselors etc.. Because there are less reports being made, there are less investigations being done, which leads to less people being caught. 

 

Be careful calling other people stupid when you couldn't even comprehend the point he was making.

Agreed. Some of these idiots are so eager to be on the offensive, they missed valid points that he made. All the statistics of these increases can be looked up.

6 days ago
9/28/10
Posts: 716

Can’t comment on what Winklejohns motives are but what he said about child abuse isn’t untrue.

Calls to childline in the UK have increased massively since the lockdown and there is a significant increase in the United States too 

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/28/847251985/child-sexual-abuse-reports-are-on-the-rise-amid-lockdown-orders?t=1590046623094

 

Whatever you think about Winks comments and his motives, you cannot deny facts 

6 days ago
11/14/02
Posts: 6852
The internet has been overrun with doomsdayer fagulas who are pushing to keep this lockdown going for as long as possible.

They don't care about bronchitis or emphysema. They don't care about pneumonia or influenza. They don't care about a lot of shit that has killed more than covid19, but damn it we have to stay shut down forever even though THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO CONTRACT COVID 19 SURVIVE. Almost all of the people who are killed by it are over 60 and half of that number is people aged 80 or over.

I'm sick of the hysteria. I'm sick of Kids and teenagers getting fucked out of an education because great grandpa MIGHT die, just like he might die from old age, cancer, heart failure, Alzheimer's or any other common cause of death.

All of you cunts crying for everything to stay shut down, Fuck Off! Stay inside forever for all I care. Just quit lobbying for the world to stop turning because you're too frightened or too stupid to do some thoughtful reasonable analysis of the risk/reward in this situation.
6 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 10843

He's not wrong. The people freaking out about him saying it are sounding hysterical and scared.

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6/14/12
Posts: 6061
mulder68 -

Can’t comment on what Winklejohns motives are but what he said about child abuse isn’t untrue.

Calls to childline in the UK have increased massively since the lockdown and there is a significant increase in the United States too 

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/28/847251985/child-sexual-abuse-reports-are-on-the-rise-amid-lockdown-orders?t=1590046623094

 

Whatever you think about Winks comments and his motives, you cannot deny facts 

so there is a decrease in reporting now that schools are closed....

and there is simultaneously an increase in reporting now that schools are closed?

that sound about right ? 

im all for schools opening, btw. just making sure i have my " facts" straight.

6 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 25011

Literally HITLER bro

Edited: 6 days ago
6/14/12
Posts: 6062
Diabeetus -
BostonCharm -
Diabeetus -
stainlesssteel -

The people who blame the lockdown for more kids being molested or more women being abused have to be thestupidest people on the planet. I'm so glad Greg Jackson has nothing to do with this assininity. Like if there was no lockdown, the molesters would be too busy doing their hair or working their jui jitsu to actually do any molesting.

The point he is making is that the kids aren't going to school and are staying home all the time and therefore aren't reporting these things to their school counselors etc.. Because there are less reports being made, there are less investigations being done, which leads to less people being caught. 

 

Be careful calling other people stupid when you couldn't even comprehend the point he was making.

SMH. I’ve worked in forms of social work, substance abuse etc. for years. What u just said is stupid. You think child molesters weren’t doing this shit after school when it was open? There are many ways to report abuse in fact in times of solace we see children statistically report more often. You can see the results in women who’ve called the cops for domestic assault during COVID and then point out it’s been going on for yrs. 

     For him to use that line to 

1. Gloss over his stupid Hitler comment

2. Use child molestation as a reason to hurry his gym to open. 
 

  
Is nothing short of nauseating. Using that line is disgusting. What a piece of shit. 

    

So have I. And what I said isn't stupid at all. Of course child molesters were doing this shit before the lockdown. The difference now is that there are a lot less cases being reported to CPS and law enforcement. Less investigations into abuse leads to less people being arrested and less children being removed from abusive situations. I'm confused as to why this is so difficult to understand.

yeah, i cant figure out why each posters contradicting facts are so difficult to understand ?!?!

6 days ago
6/28/10
Posts: 30877
Diabeetus -
stainlesssteel -
ons ear -
Diabeetus - 
stainlesssteel -

The people who blame the lockdown for more kids being molested or more women being abused have to be thestupidest people on the planet. I'm so glad Greg Jackson has nothing to do with this assininity. Like if there was no lockdown, the molesters would be too busy doing their hair or working their jui jitsu to actually do any molesting.

The point he is making is that the kids aren't going to school and are staying home all the time and therefore aren't reporting these things to their school counselors etc.. Because there are less reports being made, there are less investigations being done, which leads to less people being caught. 

 

Be careful calling other people stupid when you couldn't even comprehend the point he was making.


Ok but how does Winklejohn know that scores of kids are being molested in their homes if they aren't reporting it to anyone? Is Winklejohn going around doing surveys on his own? Does he know groups of dads that are abusing the piss out of their kids yet nothing is being done about it?

It's a very odd comment to make

What's even more unsettlingn is that this idiot actually sees nothing wrong with a man using child molesting as a means to open his gym. He's defending it. 

Maybe you're on the wrong board homie

Are you illiterate? I've said no less than 3 times now I thought it was a strange comment to make. I'm not defending Winklejon at all. Why would I? I know nothing about the guy other than his involvement in MMA. I just stated there could be truth to that statement.

"I'm not defending Winklejon at all"

lol, umm ok.

6 days ago
9/28/10
Posts: 717
Connorwinztharematch -
mulder68 -

Can’t comment on what Winklejohns motives are but what he said about child abuse isn’t untrue.

Calls to childline in the UK have increased massively since the lockdown and there is a significant increase in the United States too 

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/28/847251985/child-sexual-abuse-reports-are-on-the-rise-amid-lockdown-orders?t=1590046623094

 

Whatever you think about Winks comments and his motives, you cannot deny facts 

so there is a decrease in reporting now that schools are closed....

and there is simultaneously an increase in reporting now that schools are closed?

that sound about right ? 

im all for schools opening, btw. just making sure i have my " facts" straight.

Whatever winklejohn said and the way he said it is irrelevant really. His point was that more children are getting abused at home. That is a FACT according to news sources. 

 

6 days ago
3/11/09
Posts: 12895
BrckNoHitBk -
Diabeetus -
stainlesssteel -
ons ear -
Diabeetus - 
stainlesssteel -

The people who blame the lockdown for more kids being molested or more women being abused have to be thestupidest people on the planet. I'm so glad Greg Jackson has nothing to do with this assininity. Like if there was no lockdown, the molesters would be too busy doing their hair or working their jui jitsu to actually do any molesting.

The point he is making is that the kids aren't going to school and are staying home all the time and therefore aren't reporting these things to their school counselors etc.. Because there are less reports being made, there are less investigations being done, which leads to less people being caught. 

 

Be careful calling other people stupid when you couldn't even comprehend the point he was making.


Ok but how does Winklejohn know that scores of kids are being molested in their homes if they aren't reporting it to anyone? Is Winklejohn going around doing surveys on his own? Does he know groups of dads that are abusing the piss out of their kids yet nothing is being done about it?

It's a very odd comment to make

What's even more unsettlingn is that this idiot actually sees nothing wrong with a man using child molesting as a means to open his gym. He's defending it. 

Maybe you're on the wrong board homie

Are you illiterate? I've said no less than 3 times now I thought it was a strange comment to make. I'm not defending Winklejon at all. Why would I? I know nothing about the guy other than his involvement in MMA. I just stated there could be truth to that statement.

"I'm not defending Winklejon at all"

lol, umm ok.

Ive never seen you post anything of substance so I'm not even sure why I'm responding,  but I'm defending that 1 statement he made. Not even the context he said it in, just that I think there is truth to it.

 

Now feel free to respond with one of your 1 liners that adds absolutely nothing to the discussion. 

Edited: 6 days ago
6/14/12
Posts: 6068
mulder68 -
Connorwinztharematch -
mulder68 -

Can’t comment on what Winklejohns motives are but what he said about child abuse isn’t untrue.

Calls to childline in the UK have increased massively since the lockdown and there is a significant increase in the United States too 

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/28/847251985/child-sexual-abuse-reports-are-on-the-rise-amid-lockdown-orders?t=1590046623094

 

Whatever you think about Winks comments and his motives, you cannot deny facts 

so there is a decrease in reporting now that schools are closed....

and there is simultaneously an increase in reporting now that schools are closed?

that sound about right ? 

im all for schools opening, btw. just making sure i have my " facts" straight.

Whatever winklejohn said and the way he said it is irrelevant really. His point was that more children are getting abused at home. That is a FACT according to news sources. 

 

well i guess if the news said so it must be true.

my point was, that your facts are inconsistent with other posters facts which are also news driven, presumably.  so whos facts are correct ? and regardless, it was an odd comment to make in an already ongoing series of odd comments by wink. i didnt realize that jacksons gym being open was putting a stop to child sex abuse anymore than i realized that parents only molest during school hours. now i know ! we need to ban summer vacation asap ! 

 

6 days ago
8/10/05
Posts: 40392
SOO72 - The internet has been overrun with doomsdayer fagulas who are pushing to keep this lockdown going for as long as possible.

They don't care about bronchitis or emphysema. They don't care about pneumonia or influenza. They don't care about a lot of shit that has killed more than covid19, but damn it we have to stay shut down forever even though THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO CONTRACT COVID 19 SURVIVE. Almost all of the people who are killed by it are over 60 and half of that number is people aged 80 or over.

I'm sick of the hysteria. I'm sick of Kids and teenagers getting fucked out of an education because great grandpa MIGHT die, just like he might die from old age, cancer, heart failure, Alzheimer's or any other common cause of death.

All of you cunts crying for everything to stay shut down, Fuck Off! Stay inside forever for all I care. Just quit lobbying for the world to stop turning because you're too frightened or too stupid to do some thoughtful reasonable analysis of the risk/reward in this situation.

6 days ago
5/8/20
Posts: 4
Diabeetus -

And I don't know about the entire country but i can say for a fact that child abuse reports in my area are down considerably since the lockdown. I have no reason to think its different anywhere else.

That's just because you are not allowed out! 

6 days ago
9/22/11
Posts: 7914

What a dick.

6 days ago
12/7/10
Posts: 2789

6 days ago
12/7/10
Posts: 2790
CindyDanoisstrikingcoach -
Diabeetus -

And I don't know about the entire country but i can say for a fact that child abuse reports in my area are down considerably since the lockdown. I have no reason to think its different anywhere else.

That's just because you are not allowed out! 

6 days ago
2/14/14
Posts: 8963
SOO72 - The internet has been overrun with doomsdayer fagulas who are pushing to keep this lockdown going for as long as possible.

They don't care about bronchitis or emphysema. They don't care about pneumonia or influenza. They don't care about a lot of shit that has killed more than covid19, but damn it we have to stay shut down forever even though THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO CONTRACT COVID 19 SURVIVE. Almost all of the people who are killed by it are over 60 and half of that number is people aged 80 or over.

I'm sick of the hysteria. I'm sick of Kids and teenagers getting fucked out of an education because great grandpa MIGHT die, just like he might die from old age, cancer, heart failure, Alzheimer's or any other common cause of death.

All of you cunts crying for everything to stay shut down, Fuck Off! Stay inside forever for all I care. Just quit lobbying for the world to stop turning because you're too frightened or too stupid to do some thoughtful reasonable analysis of the risk/reward in this situation.

Monica 

5 days ago
2/3/17
Posts: 515

The point is entirely valid, abuse in all forms is increasing because people are pieces of shit that act even worse when stressed, particularly under financial stress. Many children live in homes that were on the edge of abusive environments pre-corona and that environment has now spilled over into straight physical and mental abuse during corona. How are people even arguing this? Of course this is happening. Domestic abuse calls are on the rise as indicated, but specific child abuse incidents that would typically get reported by teachers or counselors, the MAIN way child abuse gets reported, has dissappeared. This should be a much larger story imo and absolutly one of the reasons we need to get schools back open. 

5 days ago
3/12/15
Posts: 4698

Makes me sick when people minimize the Holocaust like that. My grandpa died in a concentration camp when he fell off a guard tower.