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6/18/19 7:42 PM
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I will say one more thing.

The whole "Come see me" line was abysmal and honestly I feel like OP will regret trying to act like Billy bad ass.

6/18/19 7:43 PM
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why would anyone want to train with someone who has a "legacy" of homophobia and misogyny?

Lol. The irony. 

B etter write an article about Elias' legacy of shitty journalism and misogyny on the internet. 

Send that screen grab yahoo. Maybe they ll commission lole to author the piece.

Elias, have you always been homophobic?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cupcakes&page=6

cup cake
being really cheap and gay.
a homosexual with an inhuman tendency to lend money and then ask back ten times the amount.
A faggot, cheapskate, curmudgeon, niggard (also heavily racist), penny pincher, piker, scrooge, skinflint or tightwad (calls himself tightass) is a person who is reluctant to spend money, sometimes to the point of forgoing even basic comforts and some necessities as well as offering obscene favors especially to the members of the same sex.

 


I don't know what urban dictionary is but feel free to collect my supposed homophobic statements over the past 14 years since I began writing for a living, write an article of your own, and get it published by a reputable source. Trolling on a message board under an anonymous account is not going to do much for your cause. Go with God and have fun. 


You made a homophobic comment.  At least own your homophobia.

Cup cake is homophobic and misogynistic? 

Got to be trolling this dude lol


Take a look at the quote from Urban Dictionary.

 

6/18/19 7:49 PM
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why would anyone want to train with someone who has a "legacy" of homophobia and misogyny?

Lol. The irony. 

B etter write an article about Elias' legacy of shitty journalism and misogyny on the internet. 

Send that screen grab yahoo. Maybe they ll commission lole to author the piece.

Elias, have you always been homophobic?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cupcakes&page=6

cup cake
being really cheap and gay.
a homosexual with an inhuman tendency to lend money and then ask back ten times the amount.
A faggot, cheapskate, curmudgeon, niggard (also heavily racist), penny pincher, piker, scrooge, skinflint or tightwad (calls himself tightass) is a person who is reluctant to spend money, sometimes to the point of forgoing even basic comforts and some necessities as well as offering obscene favors especially to the members of the same sex.

 


I don't know what urban dictionary is but feel free to collect my supposed homophobic statements over the past 14 years since I began writing for a living, write an article of your own, and get it published by a reputable source. Trolling on a message board under an anonymous account is not going to do much for your cause. Go with God and have fun. 


You made a homophobic comment.  At least own your homophobia.

Cup cake is homophobic and misogynistic? 

Got to be trolling this dude lol


Take a look at the quote from Urban Dictionary.

 

Yeah I saw it and think its inaccurate. 

I've never had one instance where I would have substituted the word cupcake in the place of faggot.

And that word is like second nature around here lol

6/18/19 7:50 PM
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Actually then again the same dude wants to sue for libel and slander. Chaels a grown man he can handle himself. And hes probably a bad PR is good PR kinda guy, at least from what his career has shown us.

6/18/19 8:05 PM
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GET EM WES

6/18/19 9:15 PM
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uh oh... feelings have been felt.

Edited: 6/18/19 9:31 PM
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why would anyone want to train with someone who has a "legacy" of homophobia and misogyny?

Lol. The irony. 

B etter write an article about Elias' legacy of shitty journalism and misogyny on the internet. 

Send that screen grab yahoo. Maybe they ll commission lole to author the piece.

Elias, have you always been homophobic?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cupcakes&page=6

cup cake
being really cheap and gay.
a homosexual with an inhuman tendency to lend money and then ask back ten times the amount.
A faggot, cheapskate, curmudgeon, niggard (also heavily racist), penny pincher, piker, scrooge, skinflint or tightwad (calls himself tightass) is a person who is reluctant to spend money, sometimes to the point of forgoing even basic comforts and some necessities as well as offering obscene favors especially to the members of the same sex.

 


I don't know what urban dictionary is but feel free to collect my supposed homophobic statements over the past 14 years since I began writing for a living, write an article of your own, and get it published by a reputable source. Trolling on a message board under an anonymous account is not going to do much for your cause. Go with God and have fun. 


You made a homophobic comment.  At least own your homophobia.

Cup cake is homophobic and misogynistic? 

Got to be trolling this dude lol


Take a look at the quote from Urban Dictionary.

 

Urban Dictionary is not a comprehensive source of street slang broham.

Whatever nerd happens to upload some bullshit and then whatever other nerds vote on it skews its utility.

It is often accurate but it is also just as often inaccurate.

Well, coming from someone that has a misogynistic screen name, I am not sure if I should take your word.

Why do you hate women?

Or do you prefer the spelling......womyn?

 

6/18/19 9:38 PM
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why would anyone want to train with someone who has a "legacy" of homophobia and misogyny?

Lol. The irony. 

B etter write an article about Elias' legacy of shitty journalism and misogyny on the internet. 

Send that screen grab yahoo. Maybe they ll commission lole to author the piece.

Elias, have you always been homophobic?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cupcakes&page=6

cup cake
being really cheap and gay.
a homosexual with an inhuman tendency to lend money and then ask back ten times the amount.
A faggot, cheapskate, curmudgeon, niggard (also heavily racist), penny pincher, piker, scrooge, skinflint or tightwad (calls himself tightass) is a person who is reluctant to spend money, sometimes to the point of forgoing even basic comforts and some necessities as well as offering obscene favors especially to the members of the same sex.

 


I don't know what urban dictionary is but feel free to collect my supposed homophobic statements over the past 14 years since I began writing for a living, write an article of your own, and get it published by a reputable source. Trolling on a message board under an anonymous account is not going to do much for your cause. Go with God and have fun. 


You made a homophobic comment.  At least own your homophobia.

Cup cake is homophobic and misogynistic? 

Got to be trolling this dude lol


Take a look at the quote from Urban Dictionary.

 

Urban Dictionary is not a comprehensive source of street slang broham.

Whatever nerd happens to upload some bullshit and then whatever other nerds vote on it skews its utility.

It is often accurate but it is also just as often inaccurate.

Studying language you ll see that words follow meanings around like parasites, hopping from host to host as they run there course.

Hence why older words have so many different archaic meanings and why we dont stilll read the original print edition of the oxford dictionary. People decide words and how to use them not the words themselves.  

So if the nerds change the word well then there you go.

For a great example of modernity look no further than our own nobel laureate elias and how he single handily redifined the term racism to simply mean " anyone who disagrees with elias' opinions". 

It willl contribnute the abuse of the word in certain circles that eat that diarrhea up.

Edited: 6/18/19 9:57 PM
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OP should have named this thread: 

"My Academy of Misogyny, Homophobia and Racism in Chicago, IL"

6/18/19 10:16 PM
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So, plug the school, but no comment on the Chael article? Can't admit just a little that it was poor timing and just to get clicks? Or admit ya shit on a legend? 


comment on the story? I've been replying to people on twitter, IG, FB, and here for a couple days. 

You believe you're owed a personalized comment? Fine, here it is - my story is my comment. And, I stand by it.

I wrote a similar piece on Sonnen's racism after he retired the first time in 2014. People didn't seem to mind quite as much, then, but by 2015 and 2016 when I would highlight someone in the sporting world's racism or mysogony, or any number of other issues, you racists have seemed to get extra mad. It's nothing new on my end. I've been writing this type of material since 2005. Racists are emboldened to come out of the shadows, now, it seems. I write about the intersections of race, class, gender, and sport just about every week and have for over a decade but now folks are getting more vocal in being upset when I do than at any other point in the past that I can recall. 

If accurately quoting Sonnen's many racist statements over the years hurts his feelings or his fans', I couldn't care less about hurting his or your all's feelings. 

Go be racist, like Sonnen, if you'd like. Live that way, say it's a show, whatever makes you feel better about it.

Or, don't. 

You're not owed anything because your feelings were hurt. Sonnen isn't owed acceptance of his classlessness, in all its various forms.

This thread is about a particular thread started by Wes Sims that lied about my academy because he, like you, was so upset that someone deigned to criticize Chael Sonnen. 

These issues are important to me and not disconnected from my academy's philosophy. If they speak to you and you want to train with us, you're more than welcome. If they do not, then it isn't a good place for you.

I won't ever apologize for criticising structural racism, individual racist rhetoric or individual racist behavior. Sonnen's career decisions, whether he's won or lost, his feelings, or any of yours don't matter to me in the least when it comes to highlighting long occluded racist speech from him. 

First off, don't imply I'm rascist just because I didn't like your article.   Obviously I didn't see you comment on twitter etc... & was refering to the fact I saw you commented once on here and it talked about your school & didn't address anything else. About the article.... I'm not saying some of Chael comments/antics couldn't be considered rascist, it's the fact it was said tongue in cheek or whatever, in jest, he was playing a heel and you KNOW this, and tons of people who actually know him have real stories of him helping countless people of all races and being a great guy, and you KNOW that too. You still chose to make him seem like an actual bad person, people who don't know mma and read that will think he's a bad dude and that's not fair imo. As far as anyone badmouthing your school, it's not called for especially if they're lies. For what its worth you're doing a good thing with all that. It just seems like you were virtue signaling for clicks while knowing Chael really isn't a bad guy. Just my 2 cents. And again, really unfair of you to call someone a racist because they don't like the article 

6/18/19 10:17 PM
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If Chael worked for yahoo and not ESPN would you have written that? Honest question. 

6/18/19 10:21 PM
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By the way, Chaels actions should speak louder than his words, especially when those words were hyping a fight as a heel in an entertainment driven business, one he helped build by playing a character. You're literally a mark, you're like a kid calling a wrestler a jerk because of what he sees on tv lol. Think about that 

6/18/19 10:24 PM
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N the fact you got all swarmy with me pisses me off lol, I at least gave my POV and was respectful. I'm just a "lickspittle"? tho I guess haha. Has anyone else ever used that word dude? you were totally trying to sound smart and come off like a dork imo 

6/18/19 10:29 PM
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why would anyone want to train with someone who has a "legacy" of homophobia and misogyny?

Lol. The irony. 

B etter write an article about Elias' legacy of shitty journalism and misogyny on the internet. 

Send that screen grab yahoo. Maybe they ll commission lole to author the piece.

Elias, have you always been homophobic?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cupcakes&page=6

cup cake
being really cheap and gay.
a homosexual with an inhuman tendency to lend money and then ask back ten times the amount.
A faggot, cheapskate, curmudgeon, niggard (also heavily racist), penny pincher, piker, scrooge, skinflint or tightwad (calls himself tightass) is a person who is reluctant to spend money, sometimes to the point of forgoing even basic comforts and some necessities as well as offering obscene favors especially to the members of the same sex.

 


I don't know what urban dictionary is but feel free to collect my supposed homophobic statements over the past 14 years since I began writing for a living, write an article of your own, and get it published by a reputable source. Trolling on a message board under an anonymous account is not going to do much for your cause. Go with God and have fun. 


You made a homophobic comment.  At least own your homophobia.

Cup cake is homophobic and misogynistic? 

Got to be trolling this dude lol


Take a look at the quote from Urban Dictionary.

 

Yeah I saw it and think its inaccurate. 

I've never had one instance where I would have substituted the word cupcake in the place of faggot.

And that word is like second nature around here lol

It's worse than the thing he called out Chael for saying to Jon.

6/18/19 11:12 PM
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That's a little racist. Isn't it, boy? 

6/18/19 11:29 PM
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Elias Cepeda -

As always and in just about every area of life, I hope to see and meet folks with good intentions under good circumstances.

 
 

Oh you're just filled with good intentions aren't you.  

 

You never addressed this perhaps by accident perhaps by purpose, but I saw Matt Brown is a mutual friend of ours.  When I saw your hit/smear piece on Chael, I saw you harping on his(Chael's) words, but didn't see you harp on your friend Matt Brown's actions.  which I knew had overdosed on heroin.  

Because of your negative article, I felt the urge to see Matt Brown's history and because of you, found out he's done meth, cocaine, overdosed on heroin as well as spent time in prison.  

 

Matt Brown has been retired, have you ever made one article in his career or after, shunning his actions like you shunned the words of Chael?

 

I'd think you're a piece of shit if you did, for what it's worth, but at least you'd be a consistent piece of shit.  

 

Very anxious to see how you went out of your way to bring someone down, will directly affect you and have the same thing done to you.  It's cool you train.  If you've fought and lost, respect.  But respect lost with what I see from you.

6/18/19 11:30 PM
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btw according to yelp your place you train at used to be a woman's clothing store.  I see there are still bitches that hang out there.

 

Good thing you're happy being small.  If you ever tried to go big and promote, I'm sure there are people who can't wait to bring shit up on you and shit all over any business ventures you may want to pursue.

Edited: 6/18/19 11:38 PM
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Elias was promoting this as recent as April 2018.....

Posted by Elias Cepeda on Tuesday, April 24, 2018

Image may contain: 3 people, people smiling

 

By the way Elias, you should shave your face.  I know 15yr olds who have thicker facial hair lol

Edited: 6/19/19 12:45 AM
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Elias Cepeda -

I tried to post on a thread that Wes Sims created with my name in it which had all sorts of lies and insults about me and my academy but I see that it has been deleted. Below is what I tried to post on his thread.

Wes Sims requested that I be his facebook "friend" a few years ago. I've never met or trained with him or trained with anyone that he has, as far as I know but I accepted his request. I guess we're not, in fact, friends, since he didn't message me to tell me how much he dislikes me or disaproves of my alleged behavior, or come insult me to my face.

I'm not losing sleep over that. I'm told he had my academy name and address in the initial post at the top of his thread but he later edited them out. I wish he hadn't edited that out so here they are. My academy is called Foundation Chicago. We're located at 2238 w. roscoe in Chicago, IL in the roscoe village neighborhood (about 4.5 miles away from my former instructor's gym which I helped him get started and on whose team I was for 17 years, throughout 5 different locations that I can recall immediately. I left that team after spending most of my adolescence and all of my adult life on it because I didn't agree with the direction the instructor was going, and I felt betrayed that he wasn't supporting my new affiliated academy concept and that he was talking about me behind my back after I'd already opened).

I'm very proud of our little team. I wanted to provide a type of small-group learning experience that I'd only seen high-level pros be a part of with unparalled coaching attention and support. We have a cap on class sizes to snsure low student-teacher ratios, students get regular written progress reports from me and customized film study from me.

Foundation Chicago students get competition scheduling/matchmaking services included in their membership as well as cornering services if they choose to go into fighting.  A portion of every membership goes to support our highschool outreach program where we offer twice weekly BJJ classes to students at the Eric Solorio Academy on the Southwest side of the city at no cost to the students, school, or families. We also regularly have outside experts come in and share their knowlege with the team.

In the past year alone we've had Mike Brown and Din Thomas give seminars, and Aljamain Sterling, Al Iaquinta, and Merab Dvalishvili came in the other week to train and I learned a great deal from those three warriors as well. 

I've never "stolen" students, whatever that means, and I run a decidedly non-political academy because I came out of a cultish environment, I came to realize, all of my BJJ life. Some Foundation Chicago members only train with us, of course, and "rep" us at competitions.

We have and have always had members who also train at other gyms. Some of them love their primary gyms and teams, but have known me for years and like the mission of our gym so want to come in every so often and support it. Others love their primary team but live nearer to us or our schedule allows them to get in another day or two of training that they otherwise would not have been able to.

Yet others are active competitors and represent their other gym but come in during training camps to get a little extra or a different coaching/sparring partner look. I welcome them all. All Foundation Chicago asks of people is to pay their membership fees, show up, and be good, safe training partners for whoever is on the mats. You can represent any team you like if you follow those rules.

We just celebrated our second-year anniversary and I'm really proud of what we're doing. It's different in many ways from other spots, and it works for some. Our website is www.FoundationChicago.com We're on IG at @FoundationChicago. We have a Youtube channel with some technique and some competition footage.  I'm told by those who have visited and by our team members that we've created a healthy, positive, effective training space. I hope so. That is certainly the goal.

So, if you're interested in checking us out, check out the website for scheduling info and come on down. We'd love to have you.

As always and in just about every area of life, I hope to see and meet folks with good intentions under good circumstances. Those who come with bad intentions wanting to create unpleasant circumstances, well, I guess that's why we train, isn't it?

In any case, I'm easy to find. Come see me. 

Why did you insinuate that a poster was gay saying that Chael wasn't going to "sleep with (him)" as retaliation for his negative comments on your article? Do you think it's ok to propagate the stereotype of gay as an insult or being less of a man? 

Since you can draw conclusions of character from past statements , is it fair to draw the conclusion that you are a homophobe? 

Is it ok for yahoo to employ an outwardly homophobic writer?

6/19/19 12:45 AM
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6/19/19 12:49 AM
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CRE - I cried when Chael retired.

It was beautiful,  and yet tragic. 

6/19/19 1:03 AM
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""Those who come with bad intentions wanting to create unpleasant circumstances, well, I guess that's why we train, isn't it?" 

 

Lol, beautiful champ.

6/19/19 2:25 AM
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Crawl into a hole and die you you racebaiting dog

6/19/19 7:38 AM
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OP walked all over Sonnon and Wes for his own profit.

OP isn't a writer I care for but good for him for working his platform. Poor show for the content.

Cupcake is not a homophobic word.

Sonnon puts himself out there and when you do the things he has done you will be looked at. He's fair game by OP but poor show by doing it how he did.

Wes is a champ. How can you not love that guy. Cheap shot by OP.

6/19/19 11:00 AM
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UltimateKeyboardWarrior - 

Your article on Chael was completely uncalled for.  You don't come off as a guy that I would want to train with.


You're not Latino. If you were, you might see Chael's slights in a different light.

Wanderlei Silva did - "This guy is a racist and he doesn't deserve our respect. I wouldn't be mad [at him] if I had no reasons to be. This is just one of the things he said about us. Now, if you want to cheer for him be my guest, you deserve my respect. I don't agree with him and I think we should be united this time. We're stronger together."